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    Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

    There are plenty of darkrides at Disney parks and elsewhare that utilize "laser" beams of light to hit targets and score points. Toy Story Mania pushes the envelope, though, with ammo launching spring action shooters combined with a patented new projection system. Through the use of 3-D glasses I am left to assume that many of the targets/characters themselves will move about in a fluid fashion - unlike the characters in rides such as BL's Astro Blasters and Monster's Ride and Go Seek.

    The Midway Game setting should be loads of fun in and of itself. Exactly how the rides technology will work, I do not know. But the ride is sure to make for one hot summer, regardless of whether the sun is out or not. What's more, the interactive ride/gamer is set up so that we will never have the same experience twice.

    Go ahead, take a shot. Voice your opinion.
    46
    Far Superier In Terms of Technology and Fun
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    An Improvement Over It's Predecessor
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    Pretty Much The Same Entertainment Value As Buzz
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    Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

    I was always confused why we needed two interactive shooting rides at the same resort but whatever, it's better than nothing I guess.

    I would like to see Midway Mania as the excuse to eventually remove Buzz and replace it with something less cartoony. My biggest dream would be to see a New Tomorrowland makeover that restores it to its proper theme, an optimistic future on the move, not this Finding Nemo buzz Lightyear Honey I Shrunk the Audience sci-fi movie tie-in crap.

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      Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

      Originally posted by Pressler69 View Post
      I was always confused why we needed two interactive shooting rides at the same resort but whatever, it's better than nothing I guess.

      I would like to see Midway Mania as the excuse to eventually remove Buzz and replace it with something less cartoony. My biggest dream would be to see a New Tomorrowland makeover that restores it to its proper theme, an optimistic future on the move, not this Finding Nemo buzz Lightyear Honey I Shrunk the Audience sci-fi movie tie-in crap.
      I think that just about everybody is ready for Honey, I Shrunk the audience to become HISTA-ry. the audience really does shrink considerably more with each passing year.

      After riding Buzz once, I'd ride it again. I kind of like the cartooniness - but it's too darn slow. I understand that this is due to handicapped loading. It just seems like Disney could figure out a better overall loding system.

      The Finding Nemo subs ride has been way over-criticized. In spite of Pixar critics, I've heard plenty of good reviews and can't wait to ride it for the first time this coming Spring or Summer.
      Last edited by Ride Warrior; 11-16-2007, 12:33 AM.
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        Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

        Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
        I think that just about everybody is ready for Honey, I Shrunk the audience to become HISTA-ry. the audience really does shrink considerably more with each passing yeart.
        And they got rid of Country Bears because nobody was watching it

        After riding Buzz once, I'd ride it again. I kind of like the cartooniness - but it's too darn slow. I understand that this is due to handicapped loading. It just seems like Disney could figure out a better overall loding system.
        Astro Blasters is a good ride in the context of an emergency addition to give the 50th more ooomph. Yeah, it's fun and overall I give it a thumbs up. But it is nowhere near my idealized Tomorrowland. I could be wrong, but I have to imagine there are some old school Imagineers, especially Tony Baxter, who are still disappointed at the direction Tomorrowland has been heading.

        I think there could be some happy middle ground between the characters/fantasy sci-fi and the optimistic future on the move stuff. But right now as it stands, the characters and fantasy sci-fi stuff is winning by a wide margin.

        The Finding Nemo subs has been way over criticized. In spite of Pixar critics, I've heard plenty of good reviews and can't wait to ride it for the first time this coming Spring or Summer.
        Like Buzz I give Nemo a thumbs up, but it's not part of my idealized Tomorrowland.

        I was chomping at the bit to ride the Subs back when the Dream Squad was handing out guest previews. I wasn't excited because I wanted to see Nemo though, I just wanted to ride in those subs again. I love being in the lagoon but the actual Nemo show was irritating to me. The projections don't appeal to me at all and the storyline was lame and childish, and Finding Nemo is my second favorite Pixar film.

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          Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

          I'm remaining cautiously optimistic that TSMM (have I ever seen that acronym anywhere?) will be somewhat better than BLAB. I'm generally a little skeptical when yet another attraction is built without the extensive truly 3D theming that Disney was once so fond of, but Midway Mania should be pretty cool...I hope. I voted for the second option.

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            Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

            Originally posted by Pressler69 View Post
            And they got rid of Country Bears because nobody was watching it .
            Getting rid of the Bears was a BIG un-bear-able mistake. Disney should have built a ride building large enough to house a Pooh ride that is comperable to the Tokyo trackless Pooh. They will probably end up spending a massive budget revamping the ride. How cool it would have been to have had the Pooh ride travel through the Country Bear theater.

            Originally posted by Pressler69 View Post
            Astro Blasters is a good ride in the context of an emergency addition to give the 50th more ooomph. Yeah, it's fun and overall I give it a thumbs up. But it is nowhere near my idealized Tomorrowland. I could be wrong, but I have to imagine there are some old school Imagineers, especially Tony Baxter, who are still disappointed at the direction Tomorrowland has been heading. .
            On the contrary, I can't get enough scifi. However, the cheap looking stationary figures make me feel as if I'm riding thru a child's playpen.

            Originally posted by Pressler69 View Post
            I think there could be some happy middle ground between the characters/fantasy sci-fi and the optimistic future on the move stuff. But right now as it stands, the characters and fantasy sci-fi stuff is winning by a wide margin..
            What is truely needed is that which is more of a middle ground bridge beween that which is lightweight and that which is stirring and thought provoking as it relates to the future.

            Originally posted by Pressler69 View Post
            Like Buzz I give Nemo a thumbs up, but it's not part of my idealized Tomorrowland.

            I was chomping at the bit to ride the Subs back when the Dream Squad was handing out guest previews. I wasn't excited because I wanted to see Nemo though, I just wanted to ride in those subs again. I love being in the lagoon but the actual Nemo show was irritating to me. The projections don't appeal to me at all and the storyline was lame and childish, and Finding Nemo is my second favorite Pixar film.
            I have a fealing that I'm going to be crazy about every aspect of the subs.
            Last edited by Ride Warrior; 11-16-2007, 08:26 AM.
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              Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

              Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
              Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

              There are plenty of darkrides at Disney parks and elsewhare that utilize "laser" beams of light to hit targets and score points. Toy Story Mania pushes the envelope, though, with ammo launching spring action shooters combined with a patented new projection system. Through the use of 3-D glasses I am left to assume that many of the targets/characters themselves will move about in a fluid fashion - unlike the characters in rides such as BL's Astro Blasters and Monster's Ride and Go Seek.

              The Midway Game setting should be loads of fun in and of itself. Exactly how the rides technology will work, I do not know. But the ride is sure to make for one hot summer, regardless of whether the sun is out or not. What's more, the interactive ride/gamer is set up so that we will never have the same experience twice.

              Go ahead, take a shot. Voice your opinion.
              I bolded and underlined... not sure what they plan on putting in but I can see it being a problem if you can point it at a friend! Personally I feel the entire project is yet another sell-out to Pixar, but if they need to make that compromise to bring Paradise Pier into the Victorian then that's that.

              As to the comments about the 50th, please don't get me started. As a CM I was very sad that both 50th birthday presents, presents for the park that started it all, were Florida knock-off's! People tend to forget that sticking point.
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                Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                Did I ever tell you how much I hate BLAB? If I score above 30000 its a miracle. The problem is there is nothing physical that you could see coming out of the gun that helps you to aim. Yeah -- I know they say that you're supposed to aim at a wall and see where the dot lands but I could never get it right. Hopefully a gun with an actual object springing from it will improve things, and be more realistic.

                Disney thinks that these types of rides are important because today's kids are raised in an interactive age with the internet and things like that. That is what they said anyway when BLAB opened. I think Disney is wrong here but oh well...

                I don't care if the trajectory hits someone just so long as I get a good score!

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                  Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                  Originally posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
                  Disney thinks that these types of rides are important because today's kids are raised in an interactive age with the internet and things like that. That is what they said anyway when BLAB opened. I think Disney is wrong here but oh well...
                  But they are being raised in a much more interactive world. Disney has always done what's right to appeal to it's target audience, and these types of interactive attractions are just logical steps forward in classic Dark rides.
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                    Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                    Why do people keep calling it "Toy Story" Mania when they mention the one in DCA? Its Midway Mania bah.
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                      Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                      Originally posted by Monorail Man View Post
                      But they are being raised in a much more interactive world. Disney has always done what's right to appeal to it's target audience, and these types of interactive attractions are just logical steps forward in classic Dark rides.
                      These are very superficial and gimmicky ways to integrate more interactivity into the Disneyland experience.

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                        Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                        I wear glasses and my eyes can't adjust to 3-d that quickly. When I saw NBC at the El Capitan last year, it took 45 minutes before the 3-d started working for me.

                        I'm not a big fan of the Buzz ride. So between this new one being similar to Buzz, plus the 3-d factor, well, I doubt it will end up appealing to me (sigh).
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                          Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                          Originally posted by techskip View Post
                          I bolded and underlined... not sure what they plan on putting in but I can see it being a problem if you can point it at a friend! Personally I feel the entire project is yet another sell-out to Pixar, but if they need to make that compromise to bring Paradise Pier into the Victorian then that's that.

                          As to the comments about the 50th, please don't get me started. As a CM I was very sad that both 50th birthday presents, presents for the park that started it all, were Florida knock-off's! People tend to forget that sticking point.
                          The guns will likely be mounted - with the ability to move up and down and to swivel from side to side. I love Pixar themed attractions. However, I am surprised that they decided to base what was originally Midway Mania on Toy Story, just like Tomorrowland's Buzz Lightyear. Since this attraction includes all of the non-space characters it should be different enough.

                          As for Florida present knock-offs suring Disneyland's 50th, I agree with others who have affirmed that Disneyland's aniversary celebration should have had a lot more to do with Walt's original park and less to do with the other resorts.

                          Originally posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
                          Did I ever tell you how much I hate BLAB? If I score above 30000 its a miracle. The problem is there is nothing physical that you could see coming out of the gun that helps you to aim. Yeah -- I know they say that you're supposed to aim at a wall and see where the dot lands but I could never get it right. Hopefully a gun with an actual object springing from it will improve things, and be more realistic.

                          Disney thinks that these types of rides are important because today's kids are raised in an interactive age with the internet and things like that. That is what they said anyway when BLAB opened. I think Disney is wrong here but oh well...

                          I don't care if the trajectory hits someone just so long as I get a good score!
                          Due to today's computer games, Disney is smart to create attractions that reflect the trend. However, a significant number of our youth have multi-fascited interests. Besides technology, they are interested in health, agriculture, the fine arts, jazz music and everything else under the sun. They really shouldn't be labeled by a narrow minded marketing industry.

                          Right now, DIP, your trajectory is aimed at me. Please point it elsewhere. ...:lol:
                          Last edited by Ride Warrior; 11-16-2007, 08:30 AM.
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                            Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                            I voted for the 2nd option based on the concept and technology used to make this attraction possible.

                            After speaking with a few CM's who have been shown a virtual ride-thru of the attraction, I am extremely optimistic.

                            I am a fan of the DLR BLAB experience, hate the one in WDW.

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                              Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                              Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
                              On the contrary, I can't get enough scifi. However, the cheap looking stationary figures make me feel as if I'm riding thru a child's playpen.
                              Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters is a ride through a child's toy box.

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                                Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                                Originally posted by Datameister View Post
                                I'm remaining cautiously optimistic that TSMM (have I ever seen that acronym anywhere?) will be somewhat better than BLAB. I'm generally a little skeptical when yet another attraction is built without the extensive truly 3D theming that Disney was once so fond of, but Midway Mania should be pretty cool...I hope. I voted for the second option.
                                Hope springs eternal ..especially when spring action shoot 'em up fun is in play!

                                Originally posted by Monorail Man View Post
                                But they are being raised in a much more interactive world. Disney has always done what's right to appeal to it's target audience, and these types of interactive attractions are just logical steps forward in classic Dark rides.
                                Well put, Monorail Man: Technological King of the Integrated Interactive Universe. Nothing wrong with progrssing with the times.

                                Originally posted by Wren View Post
                                Why do people keep calling it "Toy Story" Mania when they mention the one in DCA? Its Midway Mania bah.
                                I think they're just Toying with us.

                                Originally posted by PragmaticIdealist View Post
                                These are very superficial and gimmicky ways to integrate more interactivity into the Disneyland experience.
                                While I very much look forward to the new Pixar arcade ride at DCA, I agree with you that there is a need for more of a variety of attractions that feature integrated interactivity - including those that have nothing to do with Pixar.

                                Originally posted by bloodnswash View Post
                                I wear glasses and my eyes can't adjust to 3-d that quickly. When I saw NBC at the El Capitan last year, it took 45 minutes before the 3-d started working for me.

                                I'm not a big fan of the Buzz ride. So between this new one being similar to Buzz, plus the 3-d factor, well, I doubt it will end up appealing to me (sigh).
                                That's ok. Nevertheless, it sounds like you are a big fan of Disney park attractions in general. I don't care for everything out there either. I believe that hardly anybody does.

                                Originally posted by ROBONICS95 View Post
                                I voted for the 2nd option based on the concept and technology used to make this attraction possible.

                                After speaking with a few CM's who have been shown a virtual ride-thru of the attraction, I am extremely optimistic.

                                I am a fan of the DLR BLAB experience, hate the one in WDW.

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                                Well, ROBONICS, your positivism certainly raises my sites - toward the targets. LOL

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                                  Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                                  I voted for the 2nd option. It will be better (and by better I mean more advanced) than Astro Blasters.... AND it will fit the theme of the land better.... but I don't know how much more I'll like it.

                                  I think how often I go on it will depend on how long the line is. If it's always short like Buzz is, I'll go on it everytime.

                                  The way I see it, it's a mixture of Buzz (shooting), with Captain EO (3D), and Indiana Jones (just the ability to move and stop... not a constantly moving vehicle). The spinning will be out of your control.

                                  I think this type of ride needs to happen for Disney to stay "in the game" but due to the 'family' environment, we're never going to get something truly amazing from a shoot 'em up attraction like Men In Black in Orlando.


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                                    Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                                    I voted for the 2nd, as well. I find BLAB quite enjoyable, but if the wait is more than 10 minutes I don't waste my time. It's fun, but it does feel a little cheap. Hopefully TSMM will feel more substantial. I'm optimistic about it, but without knowing much about the details, it's a cautious optimism.
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                                      Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                                      Originally posted by Ride Warrior View Post
                                      I think they're just Toying with us.
                                      You know that was directed at you right? =p
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                                        Re: Spring Action Shooter Satisfaction - Toy Story Mania To Be A Unique Blast!

                                        Originally posted by lazyboy97O View Post
                                        Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters is a ride through a child's toy box.
                                        My bad.. :blush:

                                        Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
                                        I voted for the 2nd option. It will be better (and by better I mean more advanced) than Astro Blasters.... AND it will fit the theme of the land better.... but I don't know how much more I'll like it.

                                        I think how often I go on it will depend on how long the line is. If it's always short like Buzz is, I'll go on it everytime.

                                        The way I see it, it's a mixture of Buzz (shooting), with Captain EO (3D), and Indiana Jones (just the ability to move and stop... not a constantly moving vehicle). The spinning will be out of your control.

                                        I think this type of ride needs to happen for Disney to stay "in the game" but due to the 'family' environment, we're never going to get something truly amazing from a shoot 'em up attraction like Men In Black in Orlando.
                                        I love your analogy "a mixture of Buzz with Captain EO type 3-D". that makes it sound quite exciting. It would sure be terrific if Disney would create an interactive ride as intense as Men In Black: Alien Attack.

                                        As far as the lines go, thjis sounds to be a high capacity ride. I imagine that the same kind of loading problems with Buzz will not exist.

                                        Originally posted by SilentDante View Post
                                        I voted for the 2nd, as well. I find BLAB quite enjoyable, but if the wait is more than 10 minutes I don't waste my time. It's fun, but it does feel a little cheap. Hopefully TSMM will feel more substantial. I'm optimistic about it, but without knowing much about the details, it's a cautious optimism.
                                        Again, this will likely be a crowd eater. Disney knows that it will have to be if they desire people to start spending more time at DCA. Although, you are wise to cautiously contain your optimism.
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