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  • mondo
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    Originally posted by BradleyC View Post

    FYI they removed the previous speedramp/escalator in feb of 2017, when they opened it for an AP Days event the speed ramp was gone. the permit says fill in, im assuming the big opening left by the speed ramp.
    I just found out about the escalator several days ago. I was a bit surprised. I think the fill in is for that spot. But is it a complete fill in? No ramp or stairs? Like Space Mt will get the second floor only and the first floor is for something else? Star Trader?

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  • brianpinsky
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    I took some photos for my article for 3-Monday's ago article. They did not make them in. We can see through the glass and see themed lights and lots of blue lighting

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  • BradleyC
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    Originally posted by mondo View Post

    I was thinking they could have a ramp to replace the escalator. I'm hoping they move the entrance for Space Mt line to the Starcade, so the area/ old Space Place can be used for something else, not for Space Mt.

    Will the stairs be use for the queue? What other attractions use stairs for their queues?
    FYI they removed the previous speedramp/escalator in feb of 2017, when they opened it for an AP Days event the speed ramp was gone. the permit says fill in, im assuming the big opening left by the speed ramp.

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  • Disney Boy
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    Originally posted by mondo View Post
    Re-reading the permit descriptions and the web page, there is nothing on a new ramp. Meaning the entrance will more likely to stay the same and the 1st floor of the Starcade won't be part of the new queue. I was hoping they would move the entrance so they could take out the building of Pizza Port and Launch Bay for some thing like Tron Light Cycle.
    I was hoping for the same Especially after Pixar Fest, I'm tired of seeing that ugly banner on the sign. What worries me about this queue project though, does that mean we won't see a full Tomorrowland revamp for even longer than we thought?

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  • mondo
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    Re-reading the permit descriptions and the web page, there is nothing on a new ramp. Meaning the entrance will more likely to stay the same and the 1st floor of the Starcade won't be part of the new queue. I was hoping they would move the entrance so they could take out the building of Pizza Port and Launch Bay for some thing like Tron Light Cycle.

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  • Eagleman
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    Indoor Queue for Space Mountain that is themed will be such a welcome addition.
    bring on Star Tunnel music

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  • TheEmporium
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    I am glad to see that Space Mountain is going to receive an indoor queue. Hopefully they utilize the Star Tunnel from SM at WDW. While I have not waited standby on SM in a long time, it will be nice for those who are not using Fastpass. Hopefully they find a way to integrate a new PeopleMover into the indoor queue!

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  • brett
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    Offhand, I've bought frozen ice creams from mobile cast members selling within the Mission Breakout queue lines several times.

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  • Starcade
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    Autopia, Splash Mtn. and Jungle Cruise have stairs in their queues, many others traverse multi floors but those use ramps such as Space Mtn., POTC, IASW, Star Tours etc.

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  • Spongeocto4
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    Originally posted by mondo View Post

    I was thinking they could have a ramp to replace the escalator. I'm hoping they move the entrance for Space Mt line to the Starcade, so the area/ old Space Place can be used for something else, not for Space Mt.

    Will the stairs be use for the queue? What other attractions use stairs for their queues?
    It sounds more like they will knock out the escalators, and fill in the space with ceiling for 1st/flooring for 2nd. Or in another words, the stairwell would be removed, which would give them a better layout for the queue.

    The added stairs, sound more like Evac stairs, that are likely required for fire code.

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  • mondo
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    Starcade floor (previously escalator/speed ramp) to be infilled to extend 2nd floor area 160 s.ft. Construct two exit openings to lead to new exit stairs.
    I was thinking they could have a ramp to replace the escalator. I'm hoping they move the entrance for Space Mt line to the Starcade, so the area/ old Space Place can be used for something else, not for Space Mt.

    Will the stairs be use for the queue? What other attractions use stairs for their queues?

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  • wityblack
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    Originally posted by mondo View Post
    Is there any updates on this?


    Question: There is/was a blue construction wall, toward the back outside wall of the Starcade. On the patio, near a doorway. What is this?
    I don't know about the wall, but these permits came out on July 12th:

    BLD2018-02986 Electrical to reference Tenant Improvement permit BLD2018-00997 - Disney / Tomorrowland - Operation Office TI. (BLD2018-00997 is Disney - Tomorrowland / Operation Office TI - Non Residential Addition: Starcade floor (previously escalator/speed ramp) to be infilled to extend 2nd floor area 160 s.ft. Construct two exit openings to lead to new exit stairs. Tenant Improvement: 1,375 s.ft modifications to existing operations office to include new ceiling, drywall, and electrical, mechanical.)

    BLD2018-02987 Electrical to reference Tenant Improvement permit BLD2018-01545 for Disney - Space Mountain, Backstage (BLD2018-01545 is Disney - Space Mountain, Backstage - Tenant Improvement: Renovate 5000 sq. ft. existing interior space to a conditioned queue area. Reconfigure exiting queue on roof deck. Associated electrical and finish modifications)

    courtesy of SSG from WDWMagic Forums

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  • mondo
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    Is there any updates on this?


    Question: There is/was a blue construction wall, toward the back outside wall of the Starcade. On the patio, near a doorway. What is this?
    Last edited by mondo; 07-17-2018, 01:03 PM.

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  • DLHMFAN
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    In case you didn't know, Hyperspace Mountain returns to Disneyland's Space Mountain this Friday. So enjoy the classic version while you can.

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  • DrAlice
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    Originally posted by Figment56 View Post
    Mr. Wiggins, they'd never put a Churro cart in a line cue, but you may be on to something. I will be offering my business acumen here and predict a new luxury to monetize. We now have Maxpass and if Disney takes up my new idea, we'll also have Coolpass... That's right, for just an extra $40 per day or an additional $200 to AP's, you can experience the convenience of queuing up for that favorite attraction in our all new an air-conditioned que in select attractions. The regular lines will be rerouted into full sun locations of course, and $5 bottles of water will be available in those lines from roving vendors.
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't give them ideas!

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by Figment56 View Post
    Mr. Wiggins, they'd never put a Churro cart in a line cue, but you may be on to something. I will be offering my business acumen here and predict a new luxury to monetize. We now have Maxpass and if Disney takes up my new idea, we'll also have Coolpass... That's right, for just an extra $40 per day or an additional $200 to AP's, you can experience the convenience of queuing up for that favorite attraction in our all new an air-conditioned que in select attractions. The regular lines will be rerouted into full sun locations of course, and $5 bottles of water will be available in those lines from roving vendors.
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  • Figment56
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    Mr. Wiggins, they'd never put a Churro cart in a line cue, but you may be on to something. I will be offering my business acumen here and predict a new luxury to monetize. We now have Maxpass and if Disney takes up my new idea, we'll also have Coolpass... That's right, for just an extra $40 per day or an additional $200 to AP's, you can experience the convenience of queuing up for that favorite attraction in our all new an air-conditioned que in select attractions. The regular lines will be rerouted into full sun locations of course, and $5 bottles of water will be available in those lines from roving vendors.

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  • mickdaddy
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    Originally posted by BiggestDisneyFan View Post

    Space mountain has an indoor queue (not very well themed, especially not any more), but the way they have things set up now, with the merge point of the standby and FP lines being outside, we mostly rush right through it to the end. At least that's the way it's worked the last several times I've gone on it. I remember, years ago, being happy to finally get to the interior queue for SM, because it was air conditioned and there were at least Space Mountain sounds inside. It also signaled that we were getting closer to the end of the line.
    This is true, the last time I rode standby I felt like I was on the roof forever so the indoor portion does feel very small.

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  • BiggestDisneyFan
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    Originally posted by mickdaddy View Post
    An indoor Queue for Space Mountain that is themed will be such a welcome addition.
    Space mountain has an indoor queue (not very well themed, especially not any more), but the way they have things set up now, with the merge point of the standby and FP lines being outside, we mostly rush right through it to the end. At least that's the way it's worked the last several times I've gone on it. I remember, years ago, being happy to finally get to the interior queue for SM, because it was air conditioned and there were at least Space Mountain sounds inside. It also signaled that we were getting closer to the end of the line.

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  • StayClassySanDiego
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    First time poster, but I think you've hit the nail on the head. There's really no way that Disney can do any genuine remodel of Tomorrowland if Space Mountain is offline for a prolonged length of time. Not only is it one of the most popular rides in the park (guest experience wise) but eats a lot of people, and it would force those guests into lines elsewhere. If you assume that the Starcade/Star Tours building complex has to remain, then moving the queue inside of that building allows Disney to attack the back half of the land without taking down one of its most popular rides.

    If you start to put two and two together around the rumor concerning the removal of the Peoplemover tracks and the re-routing of the Space Mountain queue, an argument can be made that Disney is starting to clear the way for the Tomorrowland reboot that so many fans have pined for lo these many years. I'm optimistic.

    Originally posted by Starcade View Post
    I think Disney realizes the lines are the primary complaint guests have and they know they cannot remove them but they can hide them. If visually people are hidden away in halls and rooms off the main path it can go a long way to removing the look and feel of endless lines. Moving the queue over to the old husk of Starcade means they could also possibly recreate a more direct entrance right into the section with the various doors right before you make your left turn into the launch bay. You would now go straight through and this would get rid of the switch back halls that were the old queue which would no longer need to be maintained as walking area. Also that area and the Magic Eye Theater could now have a more severe remodeling or even removal for a new structure without shutting off one of the most popular attraction for an extended period. Or they will just make the new open terrace an "exclu$ive dining experience"

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