I am starting a rumor. Since we are approaching the one year mark before Galaxy's Edge opens and I doubt they want passholder filling either one of the parks, who else thinks its possible they will get rid of annual passes altogether. They will make more money with four month long "season" passes for spring/summer or fall/winter with different price levels for sundays only, weekdays only, or any day. They have already started doing this in Shanghai Disneyland and I don't see why they won't do it here. I am surprised I haven't seen anyone mention this moving to our park on the forum before.
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They already have this in lower level passes. You can't treat the AP program as a monolith. There are multiple levels/tiers of passes which represent very different customer segments. There is little in common between a Signature Plus passholder and a SoCal Select, they are totally different markets.
The program will continue and I think that it is easy to overestimate the draw of Star Wars GE. While it will no doubt be popular at first, that initial rush will die down quickly, I believe that some greatly overestimate just how much people are going to be drawn to it. It will be a bump, a significant one, but it also represents additional capacity and will not likely overwhelm the park IMO.
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Originally posted by Golden Zephyr View PostThe program will continue and I think that it is easy to overestimate the draw of Star Wars GE. While it will no doubt be popular at first, that initial rush will die down quickly, I believe that some greatly overestimate just how much people are going to be drawn to it. I
No doubt the DLR will be crowded, but it shouldn't be quite as bad as when "Potter" first opened in Florida in 2010, and the whole world was flocking to that one place. With Galaxy's Edge, they will have those two options.
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Originally posted by DLMountainFan View PostI saw this thread and the first thought that I had was...How many posts will there be before this turns into a "Let's bash the AP holders" thread.
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they will not get rid of passes... because math. Rumors are that there are close to 1,000,000 passholders... If the deluxe price is close to the average (signature being higher, so cals being lower) thats $700,000,000 a year the parks make... they wont mess with that number. even if I am over estimating its still at least around half a billion dollars a year without any parking or merchandise revenue included.
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Originally posted by 9oldmen View PostAnother thing people keep forgetting is that it is opening on both coasts at nearly the same time. If you're from the East Coast, or from out of the country, where are you most likely to go? The Disneyland Resort where you can visit Batuu, or WDW where you can visit Batuu, and Pandora, and Toy Story Land, and Hogsmeade, etc.
No doubt the DLR will be crowded, but it shouldn't be quite as bad as when "Potter" first opened in Florida in 2010, and the whole world was flocking to that one place. With Galaxy's Edge, they will have those two options.
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I don't think the APs will go away. But there will be a change to Annual Passes because Disney has already announced it in February...
“We will be reshaping our Annual Pass program to better manage the guest experience throughout the year, which will help all Disneyland Resort guests have a great visit, particularly as we look forward to the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge in 2019.”
There are those who say this statement by Disney means nothing, and that they won't do one single thing to the APs. I prefer to believe they said it because they mean it, and that there will be a change geared toward dealing with the problem of the overwhelming AP crowding that will come next summer.
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Originally posted by Natalie Price View PostI don't think the APs will go away. But there will be a change to Annual Passes because Disney has already announced it in February...
“We will be reshaping our Annual Pass program to better manage the guest experience throughout the year, which will help all Disneyland Resort guests have a great visit, particularly as we look forward to the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge in 2019.”
There are those who say this statement by Disney means nothing, and that they won't do one single thing to the APs. I prefer to believe they said it because they mean it, and that there will be a change geared toward dealing with the problem of the overwhelming AP crowding that will come next summer.
Which APs will be affected? (as in what tiers)
How does Disney value each group?
That PR statement could mean anything, they've already made changes in that they are not providing a discount for renewal. Is that what you believe it means?
If not, I am genuinely curious as to what do you think it means? Specifics would be appreciated. Again, wishful thinking is ok, but you affirm that there are "changes" coming, it would be great to say what you think those changes are for documentary purposes to compare when the presupposed changes do in fact come out.
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Originally posted by zugzug15 View Postthey will not get rid of passes... because math. Rumors are that there are close to 1,000,000 passholders... If the deluxe price is close to the average (signature being higher, so cals being lower) thats $700,000,000 a year the parks make... they wont mess with that number. even if I am over estimating its still at least around half a billion dollars a year without any parking or merchandise revenue included.
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Originally posted by order 1966 View PostThey will make more money with four month long "season" passes for spring/summer or fall/winter with different price levels for sundays only, weekdays only, or any day. They have already started doing this in Shanghai Disneyland and I don't see why they won't do it here.
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Two things I'm pretty sure of concerning APs.......
1) As long as wall street wants crowded parks, TDC will continue to create new innovative ways to utilize the AP program to ensure even higher crowd levels.
2) If wall street ever decides it wants short lines and uncrowded parks, the AP program will disappear in about 5 minutes.
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APs are going nowhere. They tried to suspend them before DCA opened and that cost them big time, mostly to an empty park. They will never make that mistake again.
Now they may do some different approaches like offer separate APS as Tokyo has done, maybe cancel one (as they also done in the past but brought others back) and obviously raise them higher but they will always be there. Disney doesn't care the parks are crowded. They only care when they are not, ie, DCA early years. If you are an executive and you had to choose between the two trust me when you wouldn't be one for long if you choose the latter.
And as for GE, that was the entire point of building two lands. It's weird how people constantly forget this point. It's not going to be a Harry Potter situation because they have given people the option of two parks to see it. They will both be crowded for awhile like all these places but it will balance out, APs or no APs. But it was smart to give people an option of which resort to visit and not have the entire planet only rain down on one.
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Originally posted by Blue Lagoon View Post
Disney Corpor@tion didn’t build two for twice the price (anyone get the reference?) because they care about crowds.
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