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  • SomeGuyInOz
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    Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    What happened to just simply enjoying the park and forgetting about your phone and the rest of the world for a day?
    Really? My phone has become more indispensable than ever in the Parks these days. The Disneyland App is my key to using Max Pass Fast Passes, Photopass photos, dining reservations, mobile food ordering, wait times, entertainment schedules, etc. Not to mention using my phone as a camera. Maybe 5 years ago my phone was not really so important to my Disneyland day, but now I'd hate to be without it.

    Originally posted by sailor310 View Post
    and why ruin my experience by holding your silly phone right in my line of sight to the show?!!!!
    Oh, I agree with that! It's still not as bad as holding your kid on your shoulders, but it's close! Or how about when they use their phones in dark places, like the Haunted Mansion stretching room??! Aarrgghhh!!

    In regards to the Fuel Rod, I would not have considered one but I forgot my battery pack about 8 weeks ago and needed my phone to be charged, since it is also my bus pass to get home! I could have bought a more powerful charger from the Emporium, but I chose to get the Fuel Rod for future use. I haven't even swapped it once, yet! I used it that day then charged it when I got home; now I keep it in my backpack as a backup. So I was pretty annoyed (to say the least!) when I saw that outrageous $3 swap charge. I mean, really? Jump straight to $3?? Not $1? Needless to say I am happy to see they have reversed their decision for now, at least.
    Last edited by SomeGuyInOz; 11-08-2019, 03:01 AM.

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  • sailor310
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    Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    There are so many videos, online and easily available, showing everything in the park. Many are made with pro-quality video gear. Why do people feel compelled to document the same things with their phones? Why not just shut the phone off and enjoy the experience?
    and why ruin my experience by holding your silly phone right in my line of sight to the show?!!!!

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  • Eagleman
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    Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    There are so many videos, online and easily available, showing everything in the park. Many are made with pro-quality video gear. Why do people feel compelled to document the same things with their phones? Why not just shut the phone off and enjoy the experience?
    MY PHONE stay off......during the time I'm in the Park's or any outing's
    I only have it for Emergency

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  • TacAlert
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    Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    There are so many videos, online and easily available, showing everything in the park. Many are made with pro-quality video gear. Why do people feel compelled to document the same things with their phones? Why not just shut the phone off and enjoy the experience?
    AGREED!!!!! Especially the people who wait hours for fireworks, then watch them on a 5" screen while recording thinking they are getting some professional shot.

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  • tarheelalum
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    Originally posted by Raymonator View Post

    Disney wouldn't have to absorb any cost. Any amount they spend powering these kiosks is quickly offset by what they charge FuelRod to elase space within their park. I think the business model for something like this is that FuelRod pays Disney every square foot (Being Disney, probably per square inch) to lease that spot in the park. Similar to how the Wireless Kiosks in Costco work (thats a 3rd party called Wireless Advocates that operates those kiosks, not Costco or Costco employees). In exchange, Disney offers to power the kiosks and it works well because they can advertise a free convenience to guests. FuelRod is hoping to make their money on the sales of the devices. This business model is great initially when people are buying your product but when sales slow because most people that are interested in swapping already own a device you must recoup cost by charging per swap.

    Since it seems like enough people use these kiosks to be of value to Disney they quite possibly may have lowered their lease/rent fees to accommodate any losses that FuelRod may have from decreased sales. This way FuelRod doesn't have to charge per swap and Disney can still advertise this as a free service to guests.

    Just my thoughts anyway. I don't have any actual knowledge of their contract agreements.

    I suspect your not far off with your assessment. But I'm surprised a company as big as Disney would not have already seen this scenario playing out exactly the way it did. They should have known that once market saturation hit with new sales, something was going to have to give to keep things going.

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  • Bob Weaver
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    There are so many videos, online and easily available, showing everything in the park. Many are made with pro-quality video gear. Why do people feel compelled to document the same things with their phones? Why not just shut the phone off and enjoy the experience?

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  • Raymonator
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    Originally posted by SoCalDisneyFan View Post
    That's great news. But I can't imagine that Disney is going to just absorb the cost themselves, so something else is going on. Either they negotiated something with the company or they're going to raise the initial price to purchase one, so they can compensate for any additional cost they have with the company that makes these.
    Disney wouldn't have to absorb any cost. Any amount they spend powering these kiosks is quickly offset by what they charge FuelRod to elase space within their park. I think the business model for something like this is that FuelRod pays Disney every square foot (Being Disney, probably per square inch) to lease that spot in the park. Similar to how the Wireless Kiosks in Costco work (thats a 3rd party called Wireless Advocates that operates those kiosks, not Costco or Costco employees). In exchange, Disney offers to power the kiosks and it works well because they can advertise a free convenience to guests. FuelRod is hoping to make their money on the sales of the devices. This business model is great initially when people are buying your product but when sales slow because most people that are interested in swapping already own a device you must recoup cost by charging per swap.

    Since it seems like enough people use these kiosks to be of value to Disney they quite possibly may have lowered their lease/rent fees to accommodate any losses that FuelRod may have from decreased sales. This way FuelRod doesn't have to charge per swap and Disney can still advertise this as a free service to guests.

    Just my thoughts anyway. I don't have any actual knowledge of their contract agreements.
    Last edited by Raymonator; 11-05-2019, 01:45 PM.

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  • Raymonator
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    Originally posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    What happened to just simply enjoying the park and forgetting about your phone and the rest of the world for a day?
    I agree that it is pretty annoying when people aren't paying attention or moving in queue because their faces are looking down at phones. Look up and enjoy the park! But ... I also understand that less and less people have actual cameras and our phones are how we capture magical moments and after a long 13-14 hour day it can be a drain on the batteries.

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  • Eagleman
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    Originally posted by pinkertonfloyd View Post
    Pics I've seen show they changed the wording on the units, they used to say "Free Swapping" then the notice of the charge coming on Nov 1st, now they replaced that with "Swappable", which seems to get back at the lawsuit as they pointed out that they have "Free Swapping" when they were purchased.

    Basically, they've changed that wording on purpose. I wonder if they'll try to say any sold after that time can have a charge, and ones prior will not to get around the fairly solid legal argument that was made in the suit.

    Personally, I just have a phone with a decent battery life. =-).
    Good Question........ but it still do not sound right...
    but I'm not a
    Lawyer...we see how this play in court !

    I feel this still
    Diminish Guest Experience at Disney Parks

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  • pinkertonfloyd
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    Pics I've seen show they changed the wording on the units, they used to say "Free Swapping" then the notice of the charge coming on Nov 1st, now they replaced that with "Swappable", which seems to get back at the lawsuit as they pointed out that they have "Free Swapping" when they were purchased.

    Basically, they've changed that wording on purpose. I wonder if they'll try to say any sold after that time can have a charge, and ones prior will not to get around the fairly solid legal argument that was made in the suit.

    Personally, I just have a phone with a decent battery life. =-).

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  • Eagleman
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    Originally posted by SoCalDisneyFan View Post
    That's great news. But I can't imagine that Disney is going to just absorb the cost themselves, so something else is going on. Either they negotiated something with the company or they're going to raise the initial price to purchase one, so they can compensate for any additional cost they have with the company that makes these.
    A class-action lawsuit filed by a Los Angeles law firm seeks $5 million in damages from the Del Mar company that operates portable charger swapping machines at Disneyland, Disney World, Universal Studios, SeaWorld and other theme parks.
    Something tell me - Disney Lawyers told the company ,to back away from this
    Price hike............... IMO
    Last edited by Eagleman; 11-01-2019, 08:46 PM.

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  • SoCalDisneyFan
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    That's great news. But I can't imagine that Disney is going to just absorb the cost themselves, so something else is going on. Either they negotiated something with the company or they're going to raise the initial price to purchase one, so they can compensate for any additional cost they have with the company that makes these.

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  • Eagleman
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    Originally posted by HiddenMickey87 View Post
    Disney World has reversed coursed and is now no longer charging the $3 swap fee.
    Let's see if Disneyland follows suit.
    I bet they will too........
    The company got a lot fee back on this Issue !

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  • HiddenMickey87
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    Disney World has reversed coursed and is now no longer charging the $3 swap fee.
    Let's see if Disneyland follows suit.

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  • Eagleman
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    Consumers will not get much out this
    lawsuit

    and it going take long time in court !
    But still say it worth fighting for anyway ......

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  • HiddenMickey87
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    The lawsuit was bound to happen, but look for Fuelrods to try to spin the definition on "lifetime." Meanwhile, like biggsworth said, this will drag out for several years, and because of the high number of claims, be happy if you get $5 out of it while the lawyers make a killing.

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  • biggsworth
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    Even with a lawsuit it won't do anything. Corporations get away with this kind of stuff all the time. In 4 years we will all get a form to fill out to get our $4.15 out of the settlement that gets settled on.

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  • mickdaddy
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    Originally posted by whiteness View Post
    [URL="https://www.ocregister.com/2019/10/30/class-action-lawsuit-seeks-5-million-over-portable-chargers-sold-at-disney-universal-and-seaworld-parks/"]https://www.ocregister.com/2019/10/30/class-action-lawsuit-seeks-5-million-over-portable-chargers-sold-at-disney-universal-and-seaworld-parks/
    I was waiting for this, the lifetime free promise that fuelrod claimed was setting up for a lawsuit when that changed.

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  • whiteness
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    https://www.ocregister.com/2019/10/30/class-action-lawsuit-seeks-5-million-over-portable-chargers-sold-at-disney-universal-and-seaworld-parks/

    Class-action lawsuit seeks $5 million over portable chargers sold at Disney, Universal and SeaWorld parks

    The lawsuit alleging a breach of contract and false advertising by FuelRod alleges there are thousands of potential class-action plaintiffs.

    A class-action lawsuit filed by a Los Angeles law firm seeks $5 million in damages from the Del Mar company that operates portable charger swapping machines at Disneyland, Disney World, Universal Studios, SeaWorld and other theme parks.

    The class-action suit was filed on Oct. 25 in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California in San Diego against Tricopian Inc. and SaveMe Batteries North America, the parent companies of FuelRod portable chargers. The suit was filed by the L.A. law office of Francis J. Flynn Jr. on behalf of plaintiff Gabriel Veasey of Sarasota, Florida.

    Veasey bought a $30 FuelRod portable charger at Walt Disney World that included “free unlimited swaps” at a kiosk machine now advertising that swapping will cost $3 beginning Nov. 1, according to the lawsuit. The lipstick-sized USB device can be used to remotely charge mobile phones and tablets.

    “The price of the device is intended to cover not just the cost of the charger itself, it also essentially includes prepayment for the future swaps of the charger and the ability to get an essentially endless stream of portable power,” the lawsuit said.

    The lawsuit alleging a breach of contract and false advertising by FuelRod says there are thousands of potential class-action plaintiffs.

    FuelRod bills itself as a reusable and swappable portable charging system for powering up mobile devices on the go.

    FuelRod kiosks can be found at airports, zoos, hotels and theme parks around the world. FuelRods are available at Busch Gardens Tampa, Indiana’s Holiday World and Disney, Universal Studios and SeaWorld locations in California and Florida. FuelRods are also available locally at places like the Santa Ana Zoo, Long Beach Airport and Pala Casino, according to the company’s website.

    The lawsuit alleges that FuelRod fundamentally changed the primary benefit of the product that promised consumers would pay once for the charger and get unlimited free replacements. “Free unlimited swaps” were an integral part of FuelRod’s marketing message, the lawsuit states.

    The lawsuit says consumers can purchase other portable chargers for less than $10 that are less expensive, last longer and charge faster than the $30 FuelRod chargers.

    “With the chargers themselves undersized and underpowered as compared to their price tag, why would someone pay $30 for this device?” the lawsuit said. “The answer is that they are not simply paying for the device, they are paying for the service that accompanies it.”

    FuelRod, Disneyland, Universal Studios Hollywood and SeaWorld San Diego were contacted for comment but did not reply before publication.

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  • Eagleman
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    Originally posted by SuperRadTikiDad View Post

    However I am against using the PlayDisney Parks app because not only does it drain your battery, but it takes away from being present and observant at the park.
    Disney wants the guest use there own phone , for a upcharge APP's
    and more upcharge , to charge there phone- that Disney
    guest experience?
    AMAZING



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