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  • [Question] Which effects on Rise of the R. will break down & be infrequently or never repaired?

    Which cool effects on Rise of the Resistance will be the first to break down and only be repaired occasionally or possibly never?

    And will the Disneyland's version be better maintained than Walt Disney World's after the summer of 2020?

  • #2
    I see where he's going, you only have to walk to Splash Mountain to see it. How many animatronics, effects and lights don't work? They work a few months after a refurbishment then fail again. Has the barefoot pirate or the clavichord returned to the POTC? The effects in ROTR are cool to see but how far will the suits let it collapse before they allow maintenance back in?
    My opinion is the first thing to drop won't be an effect, it will be the number of CMs needed for the show scenes. It will become controlled paths and roped areas.
    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MRaymond View Post
      I see where he's going, you only have to walk to Splash Mountain to see it. How many animatronics, effects and lights don't work? They work a few months after a refurbishment then fail again. Has the barefoot pirate or the clavichord returned to the POTC? The effects in ROTR are cool to see but how far will the suits let it collapse before they allow maintenance back in?
      Exactly. Chapek's track record is clear: his management team routinely defers show maintenance, which decreases costs and increases profits. They can justify it by pointing to the fact that no matter how many effects are broken on Indy and how many AAs are broken on Splash, it does not affect ridership. Ditto the decrepit condition of Tomorrowland. The rides in Star Wars Land will get the same lack of TLC -- or even less, because of how much they cost to begin with, and the continuing under-performance of Star Wars Land.

      Last edited by Mr Wiggins; 01-24-2020, 08:27 AM.
      "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
      it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
      together with every variety of recreation and fun,
      designed to appeal to everyone."

      - Walt Disney

      "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
      - Michael Eisner

      "It's very symbiotic."
      - Bob Chapek

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      • #4
        Spoiler:
        Watch it be something like "A mistake was made when calculating the forces faced when dropping the ride vehicle during the final sequence. As a result, it's been permanently put into "b-mode" in which it slowly lowers while a large gust of wind is blown at the guests instead."

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        • #5
          This could be a good opportunity to discuss what parts are more prone to breakdowns. I don't think anyone wants it to be broken, especially with how the capacity has been (at least at DLP oddly enough since DHS for the most part has been pushing more people through it seems).

          As far as specific effects go, the Kylo Ren AA's have gone down on both coasts at least once (not sure about the finale scene at DLR but the first Kylo went down on opening day and both Kylo's went down simultaneously at DHS at some point last month).

          The ITS transport ship went down one day at least at DHS (where people were notably escorted backstage directly to the hangar bay scene).

          I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere I visit online yet so I wanted to jump in with this: During the at-at scene when the stormtroopers shoot at you, I noticed a difference in my rides at DHS vs. DLP which seems to be backed up by available POV's from multiple dates. In my one ride at DLP I distinctly noticed lasers in this scene where they were not present or not functioning at WDW. This effect has never seemed to work at DHS as it's not present in any Media Day POVs or recent POVs of their version of the ride.
          If you watch any POV of DLP's version of ride, you'll see the effect working - again, this is the laser blast effect around chest-height of the strormtroopers in the at-at room only, before you go up. The rest of the laser blasts in the ride at DHS seem to be working fine.
          Last edited by Theme Park Chat; 01-24-2020, 08:32 AM.

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          • #6
            This is precisely why I was determined to see it when it first opened. I'd already missed some of Indy's original effects.

            Folks, please take video of the original working effects and CM interactions. By this time next year, some of if may otherwise just be a hazy memory....
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TacAlert View Post
              You tell us. Are you wanting this ride to break already? Is this the start of another "anti-Chapek" thread? Where are you going with this?
              Why would I want the ride to break?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wlc View Post
                Spoiler:
                Watch it be something like "A mistake was made when calculating the forces faced when dropping the ride vehicle during the final sequence. As a result, it's been permanently put into "b-mode" in which it slowly lowers while a large gust of wind is blown at the guests instead."
                ^This.

                Depending on whether if its' problematic, I would not be surprised if the drop tower was modified to become a stationary elevator, which essentially remove the "drop" function out of the ride.

                And while people may call out the thread for being too pesimistic, parks history has shown that problematic ride elements, are normally flat out removed or permanently turned off. And this is nothing new or recent, as the Hat Box ghost got initially scrapped back in '69 and the explosion effect in Indiana Jones, was removed sometime in the 90s.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post

                  Why would I want the ride to break?
                  I don't know. Why would you? That's what I am asking.
                  "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TacAlert View Post

                    I don't know. Why would you? That's what I am asking.
                    I don't want any part of it to malfunction. I want it to entertain as many guests as possible. Weird question.
                    Last edited by jcruise86; 01-24-2020, 08:48 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I think Kylo Animatronic is going to be the Br'er Rabbit of RofR.

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                      • #12
                        Vehicle faults at any point are obviously ride-ending failures requiring a reset. I think that's a separate issue from effects breaking. I think you could boil the categories of effects down to three main areas.

                        Animatronics: these might break down with some frequency. Whether it's the two Kylo Ren animatronics, the two Finn animatronics, the Hux animatronic, or the Beck animatronic, they are so few and far between that I think Disney would try to fix these rather quickly. Anything goes, of course, and budget cuts may mean guests have to sit through some B-mode versions longer than expected as time goes on and less attention is paid to the ride. However, with so few animatronics, any one of them breaking will get attention (when was the last time you remember seeing a broken Indiana Jones animatronic?) Splash Mountain has so many animatronics that Disney is definitely counting on you not caring if 3 out of 20 are frozen. We definitely care, but that won't stop people from going on the ride or cause uproar on social media.

                        Projections: there are obviously quite a few projections effects, and it's not outside the realm of possibility to see that they might be in hard to reach places. If bulbs burn out it might be a while, but if the input needs a reset it might be no time at all.

                        Misc. movement: Things like the probe droid or the AT-AT guns lowering are small movements that shouldn't require much downtime, though I worry about the reachability of the AA guns if they go 101. Catwalks on Splash Mountain make animatronics hard to change out, so they'll need a big ladder to get up there if they haven't engineered easy access. The standout here, of course, is the turbolaser cannons that block your pathway to the last Kylo Ren animatronic. It's pretty clear they're on the WiFi ride control system that the vehicles are on, but I worry they will lose movement in a year or two just to have the vehicles speed through that section and increase the ride's capacity.

                        I think that last one is the most realistic, though it will be less due to an effect breaking and more because of the ride's terribly low capacity. It will be interesting to see if any of this happens and how guests react. There is barely video evidence of the long-forgotten falling rock effect on Indiana Jones, and we all know of the hatbox ghost controversy. However, there is plenty of video evidence of the ride working in top form. I wonder if that will keep Disney from offering any less than we deserve or how guests will react, if at all.

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                        • #13
                          Congrats to Disney's Imagineers on making an attraction that is blowing people away! But back to this topic.

                          Since these awesome attractions at Disneyland & Walt Disney World are nearly identical & opened near the same time,
                          it'll be interesting if one is better maintained in the coming years.

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                          • #14
                            I understand that there’s many examples of broken/ lost effects on attractions in the past, but this thread feels in bad taste. As if we’re almost waiting for this otherwise amazing ride to fail. Its overdone feels in bad taste.... to me at least :/ but that’s just an opinion which these threads tend to be against sometimes

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                            • #15
                              By a waterfall, I'm calling you oooo-oooo-ooooo!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Zorro View Post
                                By a waterfall, I'm calling you oooo-oooo-ooooo!
                                Too late -- the waterfall is gone.


                                "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
                                it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
                                together with every variety of recreation and fun,
                                designed to appeal to everyone."

                                - Walt Disney

                                "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
                                - Michael Eisner

                                "It's very symbiotic."
                                - Bob Chapek

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

                                  Too late -- the waterfall is gone.

                                  No H2O fall I miss "Cascade Peak"
                                  Last edited by Eagleman; 02-01-2020, 07:10 PM.
                                  Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Antonio Lopez View Post
                                    I understand that there’s many examples of broken/ lost effects on attractions in the past, but this thread feels in bad taste. As if we’re almost waiting for this otherwise amazing ride to fail. Its overdone feels in bad taste.... to me at least :/ but that’s just an opinion which these threads tend to be against sometimes
                                    Why did you read the title of this thread and decide to enter it? I don't think a desire for Walt-like perfection at Disney parks is in bad taste. I don't want anything to STAY broken down. Almost everything moving seems to break eventually, but this gives Disney a chance to show off how quickly they can fix it.

                                    I think we all love or have loved Disney parks, but each in their own way. I worked there on attractions, then took my daughter there about 90 times. I love the place, yet I don't plan on going there till after a WDW trip in a couple of years. We went to Disneyland Paris for a day in 2019 & stayed at the Hotel Cheyenne there for our first three nights in Paris. (I love the theming there, and seeing young middle-class families from all over Europe who love Disney & Americana.) I've also been to Tokyo Disneyland and on a wonderful Disney Cruise to Alaska, so I'm quite the Disney freak.

                                    For a happier thread, check out this one I started that I proudly believe is the longest (14 pages over many years) Disneyland cat thread on Micechat: https://discuss.micechat.com/forum/d...eal-cats/page6

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post

                                      Why did you read the title of this thread and decide to enter it? I don't think a desire for Walt-like perfection at Disney parks is in bad taste. I don't want anything to STAY broken down. Almost everything moving seems to break eventually, but this gives Disney a chance to show off how quickly they can fix it.

                                      I think we all love or have loved Disney parks, but each in their own way. I worked there on attractions, then took my daughter there about 90 times. I love the place, yet I don't plan on going there till after a WDW trip in a couple of years. We went to Disneyland Paris for a day in 2019 & stayed at the Hotel Cheyenne there for our first three nights in Paris. (I love the theming there, and seeing young middle-class families from all over Europe who love Disney & Americana.) I've also been to Tokyo Disneyland and on a wonderful Disney Cruise to Alaska, so I'm quite the Disney freak.
                                      geeeee ,I bet you was a skipper , on one or more trips ,I have taken on theJungle Cruise
                                      Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                                      • #20
                                        I don't think some of you should look at this thread in a negative way. ALL Disney rides have issues at one point or another, some more than others. I find ride breakdowns fascinating. Why would Fin stop moving, what are the reasons behind that. It's 2020 and still animations like Fin and Ren break down regularly, but why? It's a very interesting subject and I for one would like this conversation to continue.

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