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  • Bob Weaver
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    If you die in the Haunted Mansion can you just stay there?

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  • Mr Wiggins
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    Originally posted by merlinjones View Post
    One of my favorite things is the Sleeping Beauty Castle Diorama - but I imagine such a small, touchable space will be difficult, unless they stagger guests entry far apart and clean constantly.
    They'll also need to make sure everyone is wearing masks, and that they keep their masks on while they're inside. Enclosed spaces like the Sleeping Beauty Castle walk-thru can become centers of virus transmission from asymptomatic people, as this new research demonstrates:

    Experiment shows human speech generates droplets that linger in the air for more than 8 minutes

    "Ordinary speech can emit small respiratory droplets that linger in the air for at least eight minutes and potentially much longer, according to a study published Wednesday that could help explain why infections of the coronavirus so often cluster in nursing homes, households, conferences, cruise ships and other confined spaces with limited air circulation.

    The report, from researchers at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases and the University of Pennsylvania, was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a peer-reviewed journal. It is based on an experiment that used laser light to study the number of small respiratory droplets emitted through human speech...."

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  • disneychrista
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    Many attractions would have to limit one family/group per ride vehicle which would drastically reduced capacity.

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  • merlinjones
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    One of my favorite things is the Sleeping Beauty Castle Diorama - but I imagine such a small, touchable space will be difficult, unless they stagger guests entry far apart and clean constantly.

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  • oceanbreeze77
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    Originally posted by brian11811 View Post
    On all the roller coasters, everyone is screaming and expelling particles. As long as everyone wears masks it wouldn’t be so bad I guess. I’m Waiting for vaccine or at least better testing and therapeutics.
    but then roller coasters with masks can be a choking hazard

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  • agathezol@yahoo.com
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    And with reduced capacity and attractions, what will happen to the admission prices?

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  • Grand Circle Tour
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    Originally posted by sailor310 View Post

    I was going to comment on that also. If you're not the first person in the car, all the virus particles contained in aerosols everyone is breathing out are flying back into your face. Remember most masks just catch your big sneeze/cough droplets, not the sub-micron virus particles in an aerosol.
    What about something like Haunted Mansion? Although you are in separate ride vehicles every single one moves through the air that every other vehicle just went through seconds earlier. There's potential for a lot of airborne particles from other guests entering your eyes, mouth, or nose. The six foot rule for social distancing flies out the window for people on rides. I think outdoor and/or fast moving rides would be safer but just you're still getting particles from guests ahead of you blown in your face.

    Rides aren't the only problem. People will be walking around the park eating churros or sipping their Starbucks with their masks off. I know nowhere is totally safe but it just seems like theme parks are a particularly bad place to be during a pandemic.

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  • Spongeocto4
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    Originally posted by C. Andrew Nelson View Post
    The same might hold true for Haunted Mansion. They could predetermine a certain number of guests allowed into the foyer and the gallery, with cast members reminding them to keep a safe distance from one another. Although the Mansion may not be able to open right away for other reasons. Wasn't it still under an extensive refurb prior to the pandemic lockdown? Doesn't Disney still need to finish that project?
    Yep, HM's refurbishment was interrupted. Along with the King Arthur's Carousel and the Red Car Trolley's. Even if the parks reopen by Fall, I expect HMH to return instead, with regular HM not reopening by 2021.

    Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique already seems off the table as Shanghai's version is already shut down.

    Subs of course.

    I wonder if certain thrill rides will be forced closed, such as Space Mountain. If each car has to get cleaned after use, this could cause a backup and the ride breaks down.

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  • sailor310
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    Originally posted by brian11811 View Post
    On all the roller coasters, everyone is screaming and expelling particles. As long as everyone wears masks it wouldn’t be so bad I guess. I’m Waiting for vaccine or at least better testing and therapeutics.
    I was going to comment on that also. If you're not the first person in the car, all the virus particles contained in aerosols everyone is breathing out are flying back into your face. Remember most masks just catch your big sneeze/cough droplets, not the sub-micron virus particles in an aerosol.

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  • DLHMFAN
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    Originally posted by Pips View Post

    Right now, I can't imagine a trip to DL without the Haunted Mansion. But ask me again after another month of stay-at-home. lol
    I can. I was at Disneyland two days before the park closed. The Haunted Mansion was down for a refurb and I really missed it.

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  • brian11811
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    On all the roller coasters, everyone is screaming and expelling particles. As long as everyone wears masks it wouldn’t be so bad I guess. I’m Waiting for vaccine or at least better testing and therapeutics.

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  • Quilty
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    One thing to bear in mind is that the distancing is not six feet between each person but rather six feet between each group. I can see some rides opening here such as Guardians where one or two groups at a time can ride depending on their size. The subs and the side-facing train cars will have to be put on hold at first.

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  • C. Andrew Nelson
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    I expect the stateside parks to open under similar restrictions to those at Shanghai Disneyland. Anaheim will probably open its parks at 30% occupancy which will help reduce the number of people in each queue and facilitate social distancing.

    I agree that attractions like the Subs, Star Tours, and Smugglers Run with their close confines will remain closed for a while. But even attractions like Jungle Cruise and Storybook Land where guests normally get packed in tightly together could space people further apart by loading boats half full. Queues wouldn't get too congested if the parks themselves are only admitting a third of their capacity of guests.

    The same might hold true for Haunted Mansion. They could predetermine a certain number of guests allowed into the foyer and the gallery, with cast members reminding them to keep a safe distance from one another. Although the Mansion may not be able to open right away for other reasons. Wasn't it still under an extensive refurb prior to the pandemic lockdown? Doesn't Disney still need to finish that project?

    As for GotG, that's a good point brought up about the close proximity of all the rows of seats. I would not be surprised it remains closed until Avengers Campus officially opens. Maybe they will make a few quick and easy enhancements to it so they can claim it as something new for the land's opening.

    I'm sure Disney (as well as every other theme park operator in the world) is watching Shanghai very closely. If the practices there are successful we'll see those implemented and adapted to the rest of the Disney parks. This is going to be very interesting.
    Last edited by C. Andrew Nelson; 05-11-2020, 03:28 PM.

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  • Mike_M
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    So much of the park is built with maximum capacity in mind, it’s difficult to imagine an experience for a lot of attractions where you are maintaining a bit of distance from others.

    I see the same attractions as everyone else in my list. Anything where a lot of people are confined in a small space would be closed. Subs, GOTG, Star Tours, MF:SR, The Canal boats, The canoes, Tiki Room, Monorail.

    Tom Sawyer Island, Redwood Creek Challenge Trail and most of Toon Town are kids germ factories and I suspect would be closed.

    I also bet they will only use the forward facing train cars as well on the DLRR. Anything where you have to climb over someone else to get in, will likely be closed.

    Everything else would be interesting for sure. Jungle cruise boats no more than half full. Every other row on Pirates and Small World boats. Queues with 6 foot markers would reduce capacity down to a third of normal or worse. It would still look like a ghost town I think to make it in during the first few months of a partially open park.

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  • Pips
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    Originally posted by Sun Bonnet View Post

    A lot of people, especially locals, can go and just do those things. I like to at least go on a few rides each time I go, but I know a lot of people can just shop and eat and walk around.
    Right now, I can't imagine a trip to DL without the Haunted Mansion. But ask me again after another month of stay-at-home. lol

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  • Sun Bonnet
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    Originally posted by Pips View Post

    I suppose so. But it would make all attractions do-able. Most really cannot be, if you consider both the queue and the attraction.

    I can see a situation where most attractions are unavailable, but the park open to limited numbers for a day of mostly shopping, eating, and enjoying the atmosphere.
    This wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
    A lot of people, especially locals, can go and just do those things. I like to at least go on a few rides each time I go, but I know a lot of people can just shop and eat and walk around.

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  • Sun Bonnet
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    My favorite rides are GotG, Indy, and BTM. I think only the latter would open in first phase. Guardians and Indy are too enclosed ish. I also think Star Tours and Smugglers Run would stay closed. Subs should close forever.

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  • greenalfonzo
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    Online boarding passes for everything!

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  • Pips
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    Originally posted by linkeq2001 View Post

    Everywhere is now a splash zone!

    In all honesty there aren't enough N95 masks to cover that many guests, they also need to be fitted properly with a device so that scenario is highly unlikely
    I suppose so. But it would make all attractions do-able. Most really cannot be, if you consider both the queue and the attraction.

    I can see a situation where most attractions are unavailable, but the park open to limited numbers for a day of mostly shopping, eating, and enjoying the atmosphere.
    This wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

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  • linkeq2001
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    Originally posted by Pips View Post
    Issue each guest an N-95 mask and some goggles?
    Everywhere is now a splash zone!

    In all honesty there aren't enough N95 masks to cover that many guests, they also need to be fitted properly with a device so that scenario is highly unlikely

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