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  • ToonTown Enhancements, Especially the "SWGE Sightline Issue"

    With Runaway Railway construction restarted, and knowledge of some general ToonTown maintenance to go along with it:

    What further improvements should we expect? Trees? And most importantly (IMHO), when can we expect them to to fix the awful sightlines to the huge, fully-visible "backside of SWGE" rockwork from inside of ToonTown? I don't think Disneyland Park has ever had such an obvious piece of backstage fully visible from inside the park at any point in its history.*

    *I'm sure someone can find an example of something at some point in the park's history. My point is that it's very unusual, and well below Disney standards.

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    "SWGE Sightline is a Issue" !
    Maybe when ,
    Runaway Railway is done ,
    Disney would also fix the Issue
    of the sightline at the same time.........
    But ...I would not count on it ! IMO
    Last edited by Eagleman; 11-09-2020, 06:13 PM.
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    • #3
      The easiest solution is to finish the "rockwork" and paint east side to look like a mountain for the ToonTown side. They could even move the TOONTOWN hill sign over, to top off the look.

      The closest scenario to this was, when they added a faux sea bluff behind Carsland, so people wouldn't see the steel from the pier.
      Last edited by Spongeocto4; 11-10-2020, 11:39 AM.
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      • #4
        Trees and foliage. Something to give shade and show down the constant sunbleaching or the area.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post
          The easiest solution is to finish the "rockwork" and paint east side to look like a mountain for the ToonTown side. ... The closest scenario to this was, when they added a faux sea bluff behind Carsland, so people wouldn't see the steel from the pier.
          Originally posted by SkunkID View Post
          Trees and foliage. Something to give shade and show down the constant sunbleaching or the area.
          Both of these would likely work great, and be fairly inexpensive.

          Now, the question is: does Disney still take the aesthetics of their parks seriously enough...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by md6379a View Post
            With Runaway Railway construction restarted, and knowledge of some general ToonTown maintenance to go along with it:

            What further improvements should we expect? Trees? And most importantly (IMHO), when can we expect them to to fix the awful sightlines to the huge, fully-visible "backside of SWGE" rockwork from inside of ToonTown? I don't think Disneyland Park has ever had such an obvious piece of backstage fully visible from inside the park at any point in its history.*

            *I'm sure someone can find an example of something at some point in the park's history. My point is that it's very unusual, and well below Disney standards.

            I'm very curious about this as well. With the new building being three stories tall, Disney will have to do something pretty major to hide it. Maybe something similar to what they did to hide the theatre in CA Adventure?

            I'm also still super curious to know whether all three stories of the building will be used for the ride (unlikely) or if perhaps the bottom floor will remain warehouse space for the park, with the second floor for the ride itself, and maybe the third floor for office space or whatever?

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            • #7
              They won't do it but I would redo the area around Donalds house/the go coasters and the tree house. Make the coaster into either a Ducktales or Donald coaster make it longer and add more mountains to hid Star Wars land.
              Also make Goofy's house into the interactive one like in Japan, add trees, do some projection mapping at night to make the place feel more alive and maybe add a real restaurant to the land
              Happy Halloween!!!

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              • #8
                Honestly, I think that since the ToT was rethemed into GotG the idea of 'sightlines' has become less important to TDA.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Steven Fonzi Brown View Post
                  I'm also still super curious to know whether all three stories of the building will be used for the ride (unlikely) or if perhaps the bottom floor will remain warehouse space for the park, with the second floor for the ride itself, and maybe the third floor for office space or whatever?
                  I wonder if they plan to keep the access road that is currently between the ride and TT. If they do, they would need to build a bridge for the queue/ride. This may explain the height.

                  Disney has also built large show buildings just in general. Little Mermaid and Radiator Springs Racers have large buildings despite relatively remaining 1 floor(with minor descends/ascends).
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post

                    I wonder if they plan to keep the access road that is currently between the ride and TT. If they do, they would need to build a bridge for the queue/ride. This may explain the height.

                    Disney has also built large show buildings just in general. Little Mermaid and Radiator Springs Racers have large buildings despite relatively remaining 1 floor(with minor descends/ascends).
                    I'm guessing the access road will need to be kept, if for no other reason than to provide fire access. So far they have been constructing the building without removing the road, so I'm guessing it's going to stay.

                    Honestly, building it the way I think they are is super smart. They lost a lot of backstage space when they demolished the backstage building for the ride, so constructing a three story building to replace what was lost might actually INCREASE their backstage space, rather than decreasing it. That's smart long-term planning, and if it works out they may choose to do something similar with other rides (I.E. the Avengers E-Ticket ride that was planned for what is currently a backstage parking lot, and the proposed area between Galaxy's Edge and Toon Town that could be used for Galaxy's Edge expansion). This would allow Disney to continue expanding the park, while also expanding their backstage space.

                    Down the line, it's possible that Disney could take a similar approach within the park itself. For example, the Little Mermaid show building could be demolished and replaced with a two-story building, which would make it possible for Disney to have two dark rides within the same footprint currently occupied by only one dark ride. Other areas this could work for could include Tomorrowland, the Autopia/Subs/Motorboat Cruise area, the current Fantasyland Theatre space, the Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln space, and pretty much the entirety of the Hollywood area.

                    This is why Disney doesn't need to build a third gate at Disneyland. There's still tons of space for expansion within the existing park boundaries.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stormy View Post
                      Honestly, I think that since the ToT was rethemed into GotG the idea of 'sightlines' has become less important to TDA.
                      That's a great point.

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