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  • What other non-IP land would you like to see?

    A lot of us really prefer the lands that are set around broad themes like space exploration (Tomorrowland), westerns (Frontierland), or exotic foreign lands (Adventureland). What other similar lands do you think would be fun?

    I’ve always thought Greek mythology was cool, so I could see some land where you’d explore Mount Olympus, relive the Odyssey, or go on adventure with Perseus. You could make a cool boat-based dark ride out of Jason and the Argonauts.

    Even though Fantasyland has the castle courtyard, there isn’t really much of medieval fantasy incorporated into the land. I’d have fun with a land based on knights, dragons, wizards, etc.

    I don’t imagine that many of these ideas would be feasible for Disney’s vision for the park, but they’re fun to think about.

    What other interests do you have? What movies have you seen or books you've read would make cool settings for theme park lands?
    Last edited by Co Foo; 03-11-2021, 10:49 AM.

  • #2
    I'm a bear of very little [imagination], but when I heard about the Beastly Kingdom idea that was planned for WDW it was something I was definitely interested in. It's the kind of timeless topic that can endure and offer many possibilities for rides and theming on a really in-depth level. Other than that I would love to see a better-executed World Showcase with about triple the space for each country, but that's not terribly new.

    Yesterworld: Beastly Kingdom

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    • #3
      I would like to see something like the beastly kingdom that was originally planned for Animal Kingdom, I 2nd your idea of something based around Greek mythology but worry they will make that a reason to put in the Hercules IP. I would also be interested in something based on time travel. probably more an attraction than a land.
      Last edited by mickdaddy; 03-11-2021, 12:09 PM.
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      • #4
        SEA!!! Society of Explorers and Adventurers. Like Disney Sea but on Steroids. I'd rip out that travesty which is Galaxy's Edge and put it in there. Re-extend both TSI and the ROA to accommodate and TIE THEM IN. I'm still disheartened to this day they ruined both Frontierland and Critter Country with this travesty to a galaxy which should have been kept FAR, FAR, away.
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        • #5
          A land of darkness, fear, evil, black magic, whatever you want to call it. There's no way that sort of thing escapes the Disney villain IP but I'd like to see how it's done. I picture a sort of anti-Fantasyland or forgotten/cursed kingdom. An "attractions graveyard" would be fun idea to see built into the land, too.

          Even though Disneyland is supposed to be an escape from the real world, I think exploring this idea would allow young and old to, as Walt might say, savor the "challenge" of the future. Life isn't easy. There will always be dark times and light and dark are always connected. One cannot exist without the other. “The pain I feel now is the happiness I had before. That's the deal.”

          Fantasyland may be moving away from darkness with the recent Snow White changes and more towards everything being "happy go lucky". But where would all that darkness slink off to? A new land, I think. One that subtlety reminds us that the world won't always be bright but that we must be brave enough to enter, challenge and face whatever darkness we face in our own lives. In a fun and entertaining way, of course!

          Heck the land could even be used as an excuse and space to expand into more adult oriented Halloween offerings during that time of year, if they wanted to. I'll finish with a quote from Jack Skellington himself: "Fear and insecurity are signs of a strong heart. Without that strength, your zest for life would fade...as would your taste for fear. And believe me, that would really ruin my fun."

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          • #6
            I would love see
            Tony Baxter concept Discovery Bay long the River of America
            IMO
            Soaring like an EAGLE !

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            • #7
              A little bit off topic but not much........remember the McDonalds french fry cart over by FrontierLand.........I'd like to see that come back (If it hasn't already, I haven't visited in a long time).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by micromind View Post
                A little bit off topic but not much........remember the McDonalds french fry cart over by FrontierLand.........I'd like to see that come back (If it hasn't already, I haven't visited in a long time).
                Do ,have to say
                McDonalds french fry........is on my top my list.........imo

                Now if I get a IN-N-OUT Double-Double cheese Burger long with McDonalds french fry
                then you got a meal.....LOL....imo
                Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                • #9
                  While there isn't a theme out there that the Disney suits couldn't figure out a way to squeeze some proprietary IP into, I think what OP is asking for are overarching themes that could support lots of non-branded content as well.

                  Greek mythology is a good one; I would expand that into an entire Ancient/Classical World theme encompassing Greece, Rome, and Egypt. It's an aspect of world history that looms large in popular culture, yet Disney has barely touched it.

                  I would also love for them to give us a proper Enchanted Forest full of faerie beings--not the cartoon fairy characters we are all familiar with, but more traditional and mysterious figures. Goblins, talking trees, Black Dogs, trolls and huldra-folk from Norse myth, all the reasons you don't wander in the woods at night.
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                  • #10
                    How about a planetarium?

                    It would show the various star configurations and their names. Maybe a black hole or two......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blurr View Post
                      A land of darkness, fear, evil, black magic, whatever you want to call it. There's no way that sort of thing escapes the Disney villain IP but I'd like to see how it's done. I picture a sort of anti-Fantasyland or forgotten/cursed kingdom. An "attractions graveyard" would be fun idea to see built into the land, too.


                      Originally posted by Karalora View Post
                      I would also love for them to give us a proper Enchanted Forest full of faerie beings--not the cartoon fairy characters we are all familiar with, but more traditional and mysterious figures. Goblins, talking trees, Black Dogs, trolls and huldra-folk from Norse myth, all the reasons you don't wander in the woods at night.


                      Either of you guys read the book Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell?

                      I highly recommend. It’s right up your alley.

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                      • #12
                        I think a Dark Forest would be cool and lean more toward the Villains then the heroes and have it feel dense with trees etc. They could put in various IP's but the Forest itself would be the star.

                        Another one that might work is a Misty Mountain Town Like being up in the Himalayas or in the Smokey Mountains.

                        California Adventure Already does a Forest area ( Condor Flats ) , A Desert Area ( Cars land ) A Beach Ocean Area ( Pixar Pier ) and a Big City Area ( Hollywood Blvd ) so those would have been my other ideas prior to DCA.
                        Disneyland Fan since the 70's

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by micromind View Post
                          A little bit off topic but not much........remember the McDonalds french fry cart over by FrontierLand.........I'd like to see that come back (If it hasn't already, I haven't visited in a long time).
                          I remember these fondly from my teenage years, though the MiceChat in me says that they were a terrible infringement on Walt's vision for Frontierland.

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                          • #14
                            Yesterland, we have had all the OG lands/attractions come back. Maybe also never built land. Candy Cane Mountain. (Supposedly it was too tacky for Walt's taste, and that is why it was not built... but we now have GOTG:MB across the esplanade, which is even uglier and tackier IMO. (Sci-Fi land-To keep TOMORROWLAND TOMMORRWOLAND). How about "GOLD RUSH SQUARE" FOR DCA? It would act as the non-IP "FRONTIERLAND" for the park.

                            Also, how about 2020Land, where you walk in and can eat and drink, but can not go on any attractions? This land would have attractions, but they'd be closed.
                            2012-2015 Era DCA rides/attractions we went on regularly:
                            Soarin' Over California
                            Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
                            Radiator Springs Racers
                            Grizzly River Run
                            California Screamin'
                            Aladdin-A Musical Spectacular

                            2019 Era-Present DCA rides/attractions we go on regularly:
                            Grizzly River Run
                            Radiator Springs Racers
                            Incredicoaster

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Co Foo View Post

                              I remember these fondly from my teenage years, though the MiceChat in me says that they were a terrible infringement on Walt's vision for Frontierland.
                              Yes indeed, it was somewhat of an infringement on the original theme but at least they had a covered wagon motif.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by micromind View Post

                                Yes indeed, it was somewhat of an infringement on the original theme but at least they had a covered wagon motif.
                                Those fries were so fresh though.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Co Foo View Post

                                  Those fries were so fresh though.
                                  and they was "GOOD" also
                                  Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                                  • #18
                                    Would love to bring a version of Disney Sea or the original Jules Verne area of Paris. This basically duplicated the Mark Twain writings that inspired a lot of frontier land which I doubt would make it in today's politically correct world. To be a full land there would need to be timeless, non offensive and not seem to just be a break out of one of the other lands. The dark version of the villain lad would be a great reflection on the light of fantasy land but I would bet that if done it would be too dark for a big portion, and not dark enough for the other.

                                    Another thing to bring from Paris is the next level of rides that are there, about the halfway point between the typical Disney rides and the six flags options.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Co Foo View Post
                                      A lot of us really prefer the lands that are set around broad themes like space exploration (Tomorrowland), westerns (Frontierland), or exotic foreign lands (Adventureland). What other similar lands do you think would be fun?

                                      I’ve always thought Greek mythology was cool, so I could see some land where you’d explore Mount Olympus, relive the Odyssey, or go on adventure with Perseus. You could make a cool boat-based dark ride out of Jason and the Argonauts.

                                      Even though Fantasyland has the castle courtyard, there isn’t really much of medieval fantasy incorporated into the land. I’d have fun with a land based on knights, dragons, wizards, etc.

                                      I don’t imagine that many of these ideas would be feasible for Disney’s vision for the park, but they’re fun to think about.

                                      What other interests do you have? What movies have you seen or books you've read would make cool settings for theme park lands?

                                      For me, I'd say a land where dragons are present, Revive the Dragon rollercoaster idea from WestCOT. Similar to your idea mentioned above, but more like how the intended plans were?

                                      Also, my other idea:
                                      I would love to see the "NEW" Tomorrowland inspired by WESTCOT's Ventureport. All with the original non-I.P. attractions planned for the park at that time.

                                      2012-2015 Era DCA rides/attractions we went on regularly:
                                      Soarin' Over California
                                      Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
                                      Radiator Springs Racers
                                      Grizzly River Run
                                      California Screamin'
                                      Aladdin-A Musical Spectacular

                                      2019 Era-Present DCA rides/attractions we go on regularly:
                                      Grizzly River Run
                                      Radiator Springs Racers
                                      Incredicoaster

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