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    My my my. Looks like they’re trying to turn DLH and Paradise Pier into “inside the park” hotels? That’s insane. I can see them renaming and retheming Paradise Pier (they should anyway) but DLH??

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    From the appearance of these plans, it looks to be more of an expansion of the two parks than a third gate. So technically, PP would be inside DCA and the DL Hotel could actually become a part of the DL park.

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    • #3
      Read about it here:

      https://www.micechat.com/286075-brea...nsion-details/
      Big Thunder Ranch > Galaxys Edge

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      • #4
        how ever you want to spin it...GREAT NEWS!!!

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        • #5
          IDK, it looks like a mish-mash to me. Too spread around and not cohesive. If they want a 3rd gate, do it properly on one big piece of land or don't do it at all. Don't stick bits and pieces of it here and there throughout the property.

          It's early days yet anyway. TDA could be proposing this HUGE expansion when all they really want is that third hotel or the Harbor parking structure. Ask for the moon and settle for a star.
          "Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain.​"

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          • #6

            Pie? Meet sky.

            "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
            it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
            together with every variety of recreation and fun,
            designed to appeal to everyone."

            - Walt Disney

            "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
            - Michael Eisner

            "It's very symbiotic."
            - Bob Chapek

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            • #7
              It will take some years before anything occurs. Maybe post 2025 before anything opens.

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              • #8
                National-Geographic-land?

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                • #9
                  feel like I called it.. back in 2018.. LOL
                  Now that the 4th hotel is officially canceled for Downtown Disney, what should Disney do with that valuable real estate? Share your thoughts and ideas.








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                  • #10
                    I'll get excited when they break ground.

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                    • #11
                      It will take some years
                      Great News...Hope the area looks better what it is today.....
                      It going be interesting to see !

                      But one have to ask......
                      For how many years now
                      How many projects has Disney came up with
                      with concept arts........And it never happen !
                      again this a wait and see..........
                      Last edited by Eagleman; 03-25-2021, 04:09 PM.
                      Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                      • #12
                        Very interesting.

                        But I agree with all of your skepticism.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J. Thaddeus Toad View Post
                          Very interesting.

                          But I agree with all of your skepticism.
                          I read one the news of this project.....
                          Disney is going be talking to the city about the over all program, that they have in mind
                          How ever it going take Disney some time to get back on there feet
                          which is understandable .
                          IMO
                          I'm a skeptic
                          because Disney have so many concept, for this area for last 5 years
                          It now got to the point of wait and see.
                          It happen ,when it Happen !
                          Last edited by Eagleman; 03-25-2021, 08:15 PM.
                          Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                          • #14
                            This is way, way down the road. AND...there's no guarantee it will even happen. Didn't the resort lose like 2 billion dollars? BUT...if they are able to do this, I hope they can create a buffer between the resort and the riff raff that currently infest the surrounding area.
                            Last edited by SuperHappyCM; 03-25-2021, 09:04 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post
                              This is way, way down the road. AND...there's no guarantee it will even happen. Didn't the resort lose like 2 billion dollars? BUT...if they are able to do this, I hope they can create a buffer between the resort and the riff raff that currently infest the surrounding area.
                              Even if they're taking a loss land use wise, a downturn is the time to strike as everyone has decreased negotiating power. Other entities are less likely to be able to bid Disney up right now so the paperwork can be filed and then they'll drag their feet on deployment until the numbers are up again and it looks better on their spreadsheets.
                              "We all have sparks, imagination! it's how our minds... create creations!"

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                              • #16
                                I think the drawing they have proposed are just examples of what could happen a dream board if you will, they put in a bit of everything that's possible with bits of whimsy thrown around knowing that it will likely look nothing like this concept when completed. They're going for an approval that covers every type of option in the concept giving them BlueSky flexibility once approved.

                                Like some have mentioned Disney may have lost a boat load of money but they are also sitting on a bigger boatload and will soon be feeling the Park profits as well as the Disney+/Media and Merch windfalls all at the same time meaning that are in for several years of high maybe record profits as we return to a more normal situation. Now is the time to strike as many businesses and agencies are a bit on their heels and will be more open to radical proposals now more than ever as they want the movement and ability to use it to draw in other business.

                                My main concern is I hope they are not looking to make a Disney-Lite for some guests as they plan to price out the main 2 parks for the majority.

                                It will be interesting in the coming years if they get approval to see what the final proposal entails. It will likely be years until they break ground maybe 2026 at the soonest.

                                Either way looks like DLR will continue to be a construction zone in one way or another for many years and Micechat will have lots to discuss for quite awhile now. lol!
                                Disneyland Fan since the 70's

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                                • #17
                                  I don't like the idea of new lands mashing in around the high rise hotels. It's hard for me to envision this looking good right now.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Co Foo View Post
                                    I don't like the idea of new lands mashing in around the high rise hotels. It's hard for me to envision this looking good right now.
                                    The only acceptable solution, in my view, is something like the Hotel MiraCosta at Tokyo DisneySea. GCH and the Disneyland Hotel in Paris are close seconds, but anything short of a hotel fully-integrated with the placemaking of a land is a bad outcome.

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                                    • #19
                                      The way the concept art is laid out makes me wonder if Disney's idea of "re-inventing" the theme park experience is to go back to the way things used to be, by creating a sort of experience space interwoven around the older hotels/Downtown Disney where you pay per attraction/experience? Maybe an attempt by Disney to sort of steer locals/Guests who just want to spend a few hours, dine or ride one or two attractions in that direction while keeping the gated parked more focused on tourists/full day Guests?

                                      Will be interesting to see how this all plays out, if at all.

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                                      • #20
                                        A part of me thinks this is intentionally vague for two reasons: 1) to see what Anaheim is going to say and 2) to see what the public commentary is. The first one is pretty obvious and mandatory, but given how vocal Disneyland fans are, I'm certain they have ears to the ground and are going to at least see what the community is saying. I'm not certain they'll listen, but they definitely want to hear.

                                        I am certainly confused on how they're going to make this work though. Disney Parks are wonderful because they are interwoven and make sense. This isn't Universal Hollywood where you take an elevator to go visit an area of the park, which takes away from the entire experience. If these extensions are bridges, to what looks like an annexed land, it's going to feel disjointed.

                                        Also, how are they planning to get from DCA to this new land? Walking underneath Incredicoaster? LOL

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