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    CA CDC guidelines updated. Out of state visitors can visit theme parks.

    https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID...ember_2020.pdf

    There is an addendum at the bottom that reads: Fully vaccinated persons from out of state may visit or attend activities or events that are restricted to in-state visitors. Fully vaccinated persons should consult the current CDPH Travel Advisory and adhere to any applicable recommendations.

    When Disneyland began selling tickets and booking theme park reservations again on April 15th there was one HUGE group of potential guests left out in the cold, out-of-state visitors. The exclusion wasn't Disney's fault, but

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      As a Californian, I'm glad; no one should be deprived of a Disney fix.
      “I think, therefore I am... confused.”
      ― Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh

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        I wonder how long this will be in effect?

        If I want to visit 5 years from now do I still need proof of vaccination?

        Of course, no one knows just yet and the requirement seems reasonable for now but I can't help but wonder if it'll be permanent.

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          Originally posted by micromind View Post
          I wonder how long this will be in effect?

          If I want to visit 5 years from now do I still need proof of vaccination?

          Of course, no one knows just yet and the requirement seems reasonable for now but I can't help but wonder if it'll be permanent.
          The rules keep changing. For now they're changing for the better. But it could all go backwards with a snap of a finger.
          Last edited by SuperHappyCM; 04-20-2021, 07:10 PM.

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          • #6
            yes!!!!!!
            "...but life without cake is no life at all"
            -Lysithea von Ordelia, Fire Emblem: Three Houses

            Disneyland: 1997, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2010, 2015, 2020, 2023
            WDW: 2006

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brian PieGuy View Post
              As a Californian, I'm glad; no one should be deprived of a Disney fix.
              The majority of the park's attendance came from locals, specifically APs. And based on ticket sales/reservations, those locals aren't helping support the parks. It's fairly obvious they're not going to pay for a park ticket. So I say let the out of state visitors in. Maybe Disneyland can become a vacation destination like Walt Disney World, with out of towners drawn to the The Disneyland Resort with the alllure of pleasant crowd sizes there.
              Last edited by SuperHappyCM; 04-21-2021, 06:48 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post
                Maybe Disneyland can become a vacation destination like Walt Disney World, with the allure of pleasant crowd sizes year round.
                Walt Disney World only has pleasant crowd sizes a few days after labor day, and a few days after the Christmas crowds leave, but before the marathon (when they had a marathon). The rest of the year it's a zoo.

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                  Originally posted by micromind View Post
                  I wonder how long this will be in effect?

                  If I want to visit 5 years from now do I still need proof of vaccination?

                  Of course, no one knows just yet and the requirement seems reasonable for now but I can't help but wonder if it'll be permanent.
                  Green tier is a return to normal, it is one I hope we see sooner rather than later.
                  BGood! It's not just my motto its my name!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post

                    The majority of the park's attendance came from locals, specifically APs. And based on ticket sales/reservations, those locals aren't helping support the parks. It's fairly obvious they're not going to pay for a park ticket. So I say let the out of state visitors in. Maybe Disneyland can become a vacation destination like Walt Disney World, with the allure of pleasant crowd sizes year round.
                    I am not sure I would say Disney World ever has a pleasant crowd size, as someone that has been there many times it is always packed and that is with a lot more space than Disneyland has. Having Done 4th of July fireworks in the Magic Kingdom I can tell you there was nothing pleasant about that other than the 15 minutes the fireworks were going off. On a positive note that was the most amazing job of crowd control and cleaning I had ever seen those CM's (many suits involved in that process too) did an incredible job.
                    BGood! It's not just my motto its my name!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by micromind View Post
                      I wonder how long this will be in effect?

                      If I want to visit 5 years from now do I still need proof of vaccination?

                      Of course, no one knows just yet and the requirement seems reasonable for now but I can't help but wonder if it'll be permanent.
                      The only issue currently is that the vaccines are still under an experimental label. Technically, no one can require a proof of vaccination until it's FDA approved. Plus, there could be an issue with HIPAA laws, too. I wonder if this will stand.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LostintheWoods View Post

                        The only issue currently is that the vaccines are still under an experimental label. Technically, no one can require a proof of vaccination until it's FDA approved. Plus, there could be an issue with HIPAA laws, too. I wonder if this will stand.
                        This is true as evidenced by Disney not being able to require any sort of a Doctors note stating a disability to justify the need for any sort of special privilege.

                        Disneys requirement for proof of vaccine may very well be illegal......on the other hand, I'm not a Lawyer so my opinion is just that.....my opinion........

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mickdaddy View Post

                          I am not sure I would say Disney World ever has a pleasant crowd size, as someone that has been there many times it is always packed and that is with a lot more space than Disneyland has. Having Done 4th of July fireworks in the Magic Kingdom I can tell you there was nothing pleasant about that other than the 15 minutes the fireworks were going off. On a positive note that was the most amazing job of crowd control and cleaning I had ever seen those CM's (many suits involved in that process too) did an incredible job.
                          I was basically saying that maybe (like Walt Disney World) Disneyland can become more of a tourist destination when word of mouth spreads that their crowd size is pleasant now.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post

                            I was basically saying that maybe (like Walt Disney World) Disneyland can become more of a tourist destination when word of mouth spreads that their crowd size is pleasant now.
                            I also hope that Disneyland shifts away from being a local hangout and moves to becoming a tourist destination. I hope Disney gives the process time and that they realize, as many here have already said, that tourists spend lots more money and put much less stress on the park.

                            I'm gonna come out and say it. I don't think tourists are very likely to have fist fights in Toontown, either.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post

                              I was basically saying that maybe (like Walt Disney World) Disneyland can become more of a tourist destination when word of mouth spreads that their crowd size is pleasant now.
                              That makes more sense, Disneyland is a tourist destination for me and there are more tourist there then you think, the parks do become over crowded with locals especially Friday evening and the weekends. As an out of town guest I notice a massive change in the type of guests on those days. When we travel and spend time in the parks Sunday through Thursday, while I am sure there are still a large amount of locals the feeling is very different than the mall hangout feeling from Friday and Saturday night.
                              BGood! It's not just my motto its my name!

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                              • #16
                                Tourists do not spend lots more money. Bob Chapek literally said tourists are “marginally”* better. Marginally: Slightly


                                Disney is not going to go out of their way and leave their parks empty after a year of closure just to get more tourists that spend money on hotels that Disney does not own.

                                *source: see next post below. Thanks again SuperHappyCM!
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                                  Originally posted by Jesser-pie View Post
                                  Tourists do not spend lots more money. Bob Chapek literally said tourists are “marginally” better. Marginally: Slightly


                                  Disney is not going to go out of their way and leave their parks empty after a year of closure just to get more tourists that spend money on hotels that Disney does not own.
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                                    Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post

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                                    Was this supposed to do something or counter my point? This is literally providing a quote to back my claim that he used the word marginally.

                                    LOL it even says a little at the end!

                                    Thanks for helping!

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                                    • #19
                                      Maybe Disney can make tourist merch the same way they made AP merch and it can say “marginally better” or “a little bit”.

                                      Imagine spending over 600 a night at their hotel and considered only slightly more valued.

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                                        Originally posted by SuperHappyCM View Post

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                                        Notice how he compares the 5-7 day tourist to the 1-2 day out-of-town AP.

                                        I believe his statements are true within those parameters but I'd bet that the average SoCal AP who visits a couple of times a week is far less valuable that either of the above.

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