[Question] Is anyone not planning on not going for reasons not yet discussed?

[Starcade]

Something interesting came up last night when talking to a neighbor they asked us about Disneyland as they thought about going as a way to do something fun after a year of being cooped up. When I mentioned the lack of a tram or bus from the garage/lot to the park they immediately shut the idea of going down. They are a middle aged couple who are now empty nesters for the first time so they not very old and both in great shape and actually walk and hike frequently. They said they might return when the tram/buses get back up and running.

I know many are not going for the main reasons: cost (no AP), Limited capacity, entertainment being dark or being out of state, but I wasn't even thinking this lack of a tram would be cause for some to pass. Has anyone else found a unique reason or heard of somebody else not going for reasons many of us aren't even thinking about?

[Captain Andy]

Entirely personal choice, but maybe some can relate...

I'm on the fence for much of the reasons you listed, but what's keeping me from hopping off of it is mostly due to the fact that I am fully vaccinated, and I'm just itching to visit my friends and family who live out of state.

I haven't travelled or seen anyone since the pandemic began, so my priority is to attend the graduation ceremonies, the weddings that have been pushed... all of that, which will eat up a lot of my weekends in May and June.

I think after I get all the reunions and crying out of the way, I'll re-assess Disney...

... and heck, Grizzley River Run will be open!

[JerrodDRagon]

I will go once things are open...like more rides being open and also shows....at the very least i want WOC but would like Fantasmic if im paying 150 bucks

I'm excited to make a weekend out of it and enjoying the parks for a few days once its more normal

[Brian PieGuy]

At this point I'll probably go once Avengers Campus opens this summer. I'm jonesing for a Disney fix as much as the next micechatter, but because of all of Disneyland's restrictions I can hold off a few months until the new draw opens.

[mickeyfan42]

My last trip was early February 2018 (after the Pixar Pier conversion began, during the Lunar New Year festivities in DCA, before Black Panther made his debut in the park. At that point we knew Avengers Campus was coming soon after Galaxy's Edge so I had made the conscious decision to wait and go again after both areas had opened and the hype had calmed down. This was obviously before we saw what the crowds ended up looking like when Galaxy's Edge opened. I don't like being at the park when it is packed to the max and I fully expect that as soon as they reintroduce APs it will be packed immediately, but being from out of state, even once I'm fully vaccinated (second dose is tomorrow) I wouldn't be able to go if I wanted to. So at this point I'm setting my sights on February 2022, or HalloweenTime™ 2022 for my next visit. The real question is whether I want to go when everything is in "normal" mode, or when it is in "Halloween" mode. I love both versions of Haunted Mansion but have only been there for 3 trips (04, 10, 17) during HMH. And I've only been to 1 Halloween Party and that was a ton of fun. I would set my sights on a Holiday Season trip because the last time I got to experience that was 04, but I work retail and getting time off for a vacation to DL in December is next to impossible.

[Pips]

Do I dare mention...just a touch of agoraphobia? After being home so much, and since the whole world seemed to go off the rails last year, I'm just not all that pumped up to make any plans. I've got my groove going at home with new hobbies and new routines and just feel passive about getting out there. I'm retired and feel this way, but so does my daughter who is a stay-at-home mom.
It's definitely something that needs to be shaken off. Life, and the big world, needs to be embraced.

[mickeyfan42]

Do I dare mention...just a touch of agoraphobia? After being home so much, and since the whole world seemed to go off the rails last year, I'm just not all that pumped up to make any plans. I've got my groove going at home with new hobbies and new routines and just feel passive about getting out there. I'm retired and feel this way, but so does my daughter who is a stay-at-home mom.
It's definitely something that needs to be shaken off. Life, and the big world, needs to be embraced.

I 100% understand how you feel, even though I'll be fully vaccinated in time to go see Cruella in a theater, and I do want to see the movie, I'm just gonna watch on Disney+ instead because I'm not super comfortable with the idea of going to a movie theater any time soon, let alone a theme park or convention.

[SkunkID]

I had posted this in a previous thread, but I will simplify it down.

I am a strange person who likes going to Disney alone. I like going with family and friends, but too often I end up playing the role of "tour guide," so I honestly like going alone, often on Friday nights, arriving around 5ish JUST to have dinner in the parks, maybe watch fireworks or parades, but more often enough to go on rides as the crowds die down and check out new merch.

With the death of the AP program, there really is no way for me to economically do this anymore, and as others have pointed out, the practices in the park are really being pushed to appeal mostly to families coming in to spend a few days. This isn't a problem, I'm not dillussional to think that disney needs to do everything thing it can for passholders. But at the same hand, the death of the program, and it's decline since about 2017 (the last year I can REALLY say they did stuff like AP parties and events that felt worth it), just puts me at a point where... I don't feel enthused to come back yet. Till then, watching ride thrus on youtube or going to DtD for salt and straw will have to suffice.

[mickeyfan42]

I had posted this in a previous thread, but I will simplify it down.

I am a strange person who likes going to Disney alone. I like going with family and friends, but too often I end up playing the role of "tour guide," so I honestly like going alone, often on Friday nights, arriving around 5ish JUST to have dinner in the parks, maybe watch fireworks or parades, but more often enough to go on rides as the crowds die down and check out new merch.

With the death of the AP program, there really is no way for me to economically do this anymore, and as others have pointed out, the practices in the park are really being pushed to appeal mostly to families coming in to spend a few days. This isn't a problem, I'm not dillussional to think that disney needs to do everything thing it can for passholders. But at the same hand, the death of the program, and it's decline since about 2017 (the last year I can REALLY say they did stuff like AP parties and events that felt worth it), just puts me at a point where... I don't feel enthused to come back yet. Till then, watching ride thrus on youtube or going to DtD for salt and straw will have to suffice.

I get what you mean about preferring to go alone, as someone who knew the resort (pre Galaxy's edge) like the back of my hand, I often ended up feeling the same way if I went with my friends or family, plus, no offense to my friends with kids, but I have no desire to sit through Disney Junior live, or Philharmagic, or the Fantasy Faire theater shows, so at least every other trip is a "just me" though I'm still going for 4-5 days even in that scenario and getting the most bang for my buck.

[DisneyLifer]

Maybe I'm bored, but "not planning on not going" means you are planning to go!

[Starcade]

the death of the program, and it's decline since about 2017 (the last year I can REALLY say they did stuff like AP parties and events that felt worth it)

I totally hear you on that one, my wife often comments on how fun those quarterly AP only nights were with 4 hours of an empty park, even with limited attractions the fact that they were often walk on and you could enjoy the lights and sounds of the park sans crowds. They were truly magical.

[SkunkID]

I totally hear on that one my wife often comment on how fun those quarterly AP only night were with 4 hours of an empty park even with limited attractions the fact they were often walk on and you could enjoy the lights and sounds of the park sans crowd were truly magical.

See, and the "saddest," part for me at least. I don't "need" the parties to keep my pass, those were just icing. Really really good icing.

But besides the parties, that year had the AP merch and meet and greets and launge in the starcade. It had the screening of disneyland's MSEP special in the opera house. And in 2016, it had weekly screenings of episodes of disneyland aswell. There was weekly buttons and stickers during the food and wine festivals that encouraged returning each week. There was free cupcakes for anniversary day in 2015.

Yeah, maybe it's just the idea of free stuff for AP's. But most of these free stuff, were "smoll" by comparison. Putting an episode of disneyland at the opera house is "apparently" as easy as showing a preview. Giving away limited time buttons is apparently as easy as the regular buttons or bumper stickers and magnets now. Free popcorn and cupcakes is definitely more on the premo side I suppose, as is AP parties. But doing even just the small things, in the "off season" (if that even exists) or summer, built a weird sense of community, where people would come each week, and HOPEFULLY would buy some things for Disney's profit side.

But we haven't seen stuff like that, honestly since 2018, and it does kind of suck that the AP program ending probably means whatever replaces it won't even entertain the notion of something as simply as passholders parties, or weekly buttons, or operahouse showings, will ever return.

[LADodgersBum]

I would go, in a heartbeat. However my girlfriend takes care of her mom who has alzheimer's and dementia. She has someone who comes into help but the helper only comes after 4pm. Until they go back to normal late hours we probably won't be going.

[Eagleman]

I still can wait....I still feel ,the worth is not there
IMO

[micromind]

I will consider visiting again after the parks are fully open. And only if the crowd levels are fairly low.

If it's back to the chaos it was before the covid, I won't be visiting at all. Not worth the stress........

[Eagleman]

I will consider visiting again after the parks are fully open. And only if the crowd levels are fairly low.

If it's back to the chaos it was before the covid, I won't be visiting at all. Not worth the stress........

All one have to do- just to get into a Disney parks......the worth ,the stress = I agree with you !imo

[bigcatrik]

I haven't gone to Disneyland since my last AP expired in February 2015. The last time I bought a single day ticket was for the 24-hour party in 2013 (a non-hopper for Disneyland only) since I did not have an AP that year.

I've spent a lot of time at Knott's since then due to their affordable season pass (plus season drink pass), GhostRider retrack, Haunt season pass, and Summer festival in 2019 where, like at Disneyland, rocking out to Tomasina was a big part of the fun. And I've made more than a few trips to Magic Mountain since the mind-boggling Twisted Colossus opened.

The only thing Disneyland added since 2015 that I've been interested in is the Hatbox Ghost. And they lost the Tomorrowland Terrace bands. Sure, the other stuff is there (I really would like another spin through the Mansion) but I really did maximize my exposure to my favorites in my AP days.

So it seems like I don't go because the other parks got to be a better entertainment value for me, which happened several years ago and appears to continue.

And I've been a Nintendo fan in the past so Universal's Super Nintendo World looks to draw me in whenever it opens.

[mickeyfan42]

I haven't gone to Disneyland since my last AP expired in February 2015. The last time I bought a single day ticket was for the 24-hour party in 2013 (a non-hopper for Disneyland only) since I did not have an AP that year.

I've spent a lot of time at Knott's since then due to their affordable season pass (plus season drink pass), GhostRider retrack, Haunt season pass, and Summer festival in 2019 where, like at Disneyland, rocking out to Tomasina was a big part of the fun. And I've made more than a few trips to Magic Mountain since the mind-boggling Twisted Colossus opened.

The only thing Disneyland added since 2015 that I've been interested in is the Hatbox Ghost. And they lost the Tomorrowland Terrace bands. Sure, the other stuff is there (I really would like another spin through the Mansion) but I really did maximize my exposure to my favorites in my AP days.

So it seems like I don't go because the other parks got to be a better entertainment value for me, which happened several years ago and appears to continue.

And I've been a Nintendo fan in the past so Universal's Super Nintendo World looks to draw me in whenever it opens.

I can definitely understand that. Personally, the biggest draw to any other park for me will be Harry Potter, and the only other IP that could be a big draw (if done right and at one of the nearby parks) is Stargate (SG1 & Atlantis, not the original movie) and I highly doubt that will ever happen. I'm not much of a coaster fan so Knott's and Six Flags are pretty much out, I enjoy the old west section of Knott's but I can't justify an entire day at the park for the one section. Hilariously though, When I have gone to Universal since HP opened, I start there, then go do the rest of the rides, then go back and just relax in that area because it is so well done. HP was a huge part of my life growing up, sure, my family also raised me on Disney, but most of their stories didn't mean as much to me as Harry Potter did (note that the final book came out the summer between 9th and 10th grade for me). The only Disney movies that came close to hitting me that way were Pirates of the Caribbean at the time, though I still had a soft spot for the 90s Disney animated movies (Little Mermaid - Tarzan). So for my bucks and vacation time, I'm still going to go to Disneyland for 4-5 days during a trip and tack on a day at Universal, but I'm also not planning on doing an AP any time soon. Its gotten to be too expensive to make only 2 trips in a year be worth it (and I don't get enough vacation time for more than that).

[Karalora]

I haven't been following all the reopening threads so I don't know if this has been brought up but...I'm not in a hurry to go back because those initial crowds are going to be composed of people who were in a hurry to go back, and I'm leery of sharing space with them all day.

[merlinjones]

Reservations, cell phone apps, preordering food, virtual queues, lack of spontaneity. Masks.