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  • [Review] Web Slingers

    First time on this attraction, yesterday. Oh boy. I do not need to go on it again. Just my humble opinion, but at least in the other shooter/keep score rides, you get to hold a gun or something. I felt like an idiot jerking my arms to and fro…there’s no state of the art precision going on here hahaha. Can’t even believe there’s a VQ for this. Please allow thousands of park visitors to pack into this line so they’re not in my way when I’m trying to stroll through the park. I believe this attraction was slightly seen as a counterpart to Rise, but there’s simply no comparison here. For those who need to decide between one or the other on their day trip, I’d go on Rise a thousand more times before I go on Web one more time.

    Can you all please set me straight on this. I don’t know a whole lot about the build and expectations for WS. I must’ve been badly mistaken to assume this was a centerpiece attraction for this new “land” in CA. What were its expectations?
    Last edited by Thumperrrrr; 10-17-2021, 01:08 PM.

  • #2
    Please tell me what "Web Slingers" is? Also, what do "VQ" and "WS" mean?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bearcats2 View Post
      Please tell me what "Web Slingers" is? Also, what do "VQ" and "WS" mean?
      Webslingers is the new Spiderman ride that opened in Avengers Campus, and WS is just an abbreviation for that. VQ stands for the virtual queue they use to determine when it's your time to ride.

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      • #4
        Webslingers was always supposed to be a D-ticket attraction, which is really unfortunate. The boosters who still love it argue that "not everything needs to be an E-ticket!" and they love that it has the Tom Holland version of Spiderman. Unfortunately, that's about all you can say that's good about it. It's pretty disappointing for a Spiderman ride, but the land was promised an Avengers E-ticket ride. Still, no construction has started on it. In fact, the only new ride currently announced for the parks is Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway in Toontown.

        The ride was never going to be an E-ticket when they shoe-horned it into the old It's Tough to be a Bug building. We remained optimistic that it would feature some cool technology based on patent filings, like a more sophisticated Peter Pan. Unfortunately, once we saw regulatory filings from Disneyland Paris, it became clear the ride was just a screen-based shooter ride like Toy Story Midway Mania. Then we saw the video about the game mechanics itself, and it became clear they were just using old technology from the Ninjago ride at Legoland.

        When I finally rode it, I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I would never ask for this version of the ride, and I found myself torn between wanting to see what I could interact with on screen and just trying to shoot the most high-scoring spiderbots. I leaned towards the latter after the first screen, and then I was getting so aggressive my 3D glasses fell off multiple times. My arms hurt, more than they do for Astro Blasters (hardly at all) but less than they do for Midway Mania (a lot). Still, this is now another screen-based attraction, and at this point I'm over it. I hope it becomes a reliable 30-minute wait (or less) in the future.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Thumperrrrr View Post
          First time on this attraction, yesterday. Oh boy. I do not need to go on it again. Just my humble opinion, but at least in the other shooter/keep score rides, you get to hold a gun or something. I felt like an idiot jerking my arms to and fro…there’s no state of the art precision going on here hahaha. Can’t even believe there’s a VQ for this. Please allow thousands of park visitors to pack into this line so they’re not in my way when I’m trying to stroll through the park. I believe this attraction was slightly seen as a counterpart to Rise, but there’s imply no comparison here. For those who need to decode between one or the other on their day trip, I’d go on Rise a thousand more times before I go on Web one more time.

          Can you all please set me straight on this. I don’t know a whole lot about the build and expectations for WS. I must’ve been badly mistaken to assume this was a centerpiece attraction for this new “land” in CA. What were its expectations?
          Met a mom with 2 kids on Disney bus. She was unable to secure virtual queue for son x 2 day,, even with herself and daughter on smartphones at 7:00 am.was concerned as one more day at the park and what if unable secure pass? Son really wanted to experience this. Told her to find guest services in DCA and plead her case….
          it does appear to be geared to younger kids. It also stated on Disney site…that on “slow” days, virtual passes paused. Don’t plan to access this virtual queue, I think I would enjoy toy story mania more.

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          • #6
            WS is okay. I went into it with very low expectations (I almost ditched the line to get on something else), but was pleased that I didn’t.

            Energy is good. The music is good. Everyone loves an adorable Tom Holland. I think the internal queue could actually benefit from some kinetic elements, because it feels very stale at parts, but I think this is easily fixable if they ever decide to upgrade it. Outdoor queue looks pretty at night with the rest of AC.

            I had more fun with it than Midway Mania and AstroBlasters (this attraction always feels broken). Arms were sore the next day, and the pain lingered with me. I think it fits Avengers Campus nicely, but the land is still lacking, and it needs something like ROTR to cement it into DCA, or else it runs the risk of being reskinned into the next acquisition of the future.

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            • #7
              I seem to remember Web Slingers original hope was to offset Rise just by virtue of being something new not by being equivalent. But then I've noticed Disney keeps pushing it like it's amazing. I can't imagine it being a pay for Fastpass attraction.

              I always felt the point to an interactive ride was repeatability and at least some form of competition for scores so Buzz and Smugglers Run always seemed to work better in these regards for me than things like Midway Mania where the wait is so long I never repeat even if I sometimes wish I could.

              I guess I could be wrong on these things since Midway Mania seems to consistently get waits and I guess Spiderman will follow course. I keep thinking these rides should be like Buzz and give you photos with your scores on them but I seem to be wrong on this level too. I've been more 'gamer' like in the past but it's just funny to me that they don't capitalize on an achievement point system or something.
              "We all have sparks, imagination! it's how our minds... create creations!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by WaltDisney'sAlec View Post
                Webslingers was always supposed to be a D-ticket attraction, which is really unfortunate. The boosters who still love it argue that "not everything needs to be an E-ticket!" and they love that it has the Tom Holland version of Spiderman. Unfortunately, that's about all you can say that's good about it. It's pretty disappointing for a Spiderman ride, but the land was promised an Avengers E-ticket ride. Still, no construction has started on it. In fact, the only new ride currently announced for the parks is Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway in Toontown.
                To be fair, the untitled Avengers ride was formally announced at the last D23 event. But you are correct on the fact that the ride(and the PatF rethemed Splash) has yet to begin construction. Even if the ride broke ground next year, the ride wouldn't likely open until 2024 or 2025 based on past ride construction timetables.

                If Disney would just officially announce Avengers 5 and/or the rumored 'Secret Wars' adaption, the Parks Department would finally greenlight the construction on the E-Ticket.

                #WeNeedAnImmediateParksTie-InForUpcomingMovie

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                • #9
                  Would those of you who have experienced Web Slingers call the attraction a failure?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                    Would those of you who have experienced Web Slingers call the attraction a failure?
                    This is a tough question, but I think I will use Smuggler’s Run as a point of comparison. For the record, I do not think SR is a failure. I think it fits it’s land nicely. The queue is interesting enough (animatronics, an interior replica of the millennium falcon), and it has interesting technology (i.e. the passenger plays the game).

                    WS doesn’t have anything quite memorable to draw you back in (besides very specific easter eggs in the queue, a peppy soundtrack, and nothing more). Even if you compare the ride to its next-door neighbor, GOTG:MB, that ride has animatronics and interesting things to look at in the queue before you go into screen territory. WS is stiff.

                    By Disney’s standards, it’s either a failure, or right on the edge of being one. However, I view it more highly than Midway Mania, so it ends up also being a matter of taste.

                    It could be better. It’s okay. “Okay” is the best word I can find to describe this attraction.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                      Would those of you who have experienced Web Slingers call the attraction a failure?
                      I agree with people that say not everything needs to be an E ticket. It’s not an E ticket and going into it expecting that appears to be what’s letting down some people. We haven’t experienced it but my son is super excited about it, so success I guess because it’s definitely hitting with a certain demographic.

                      I think it would be looked on far more favorably if 1) It opened alongside a bigger E ticket attraction and was not required to “anchor” the land. 2) It wasn’t so heavily screens based because that fact makes it subjectively feel “a little lazy”. 3) It didn’t have a pretty stellar Spider-Man ride in Florida that lots of people will compared it to.

                      I think we can compare it to the Millenium Falcon attraction. Once Rise opened it “feels” much better now that it’s not anchoring a land. There are some small feature sets people don’t like, screens, storyline, but lots are willing to overlook these for a fun ride. Probably where WS will sit if another E ticket ever lands there

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                        Would those of you who have experienced Web Slingers call the attraction a failure?
                        I think this depends on how one views ‘failure’.

                        When I think of the ride based screen shooters (I tend to exclude Buzz Lightyear Astroblasters is more physical sets), I consider it a lukewarm ‘alright’ (if the wait was under 15 min. I’d ride it again)

                        Overall, for SoCal shooters I personally enjoyed:

                        1.) Legoland Ninjaro - the best and kids had a blast and love riding that ride
                        2.) Knott’s Berry Tales Return to the Fair - heavy nostalgia points on that one and just a fun goofy atmosphere
                        3.) Midway Mania - is still fun, but seems like it could use a Star Tours level upgrade after 13 years.
                        4.) Six Flags MM Justice League: Battle for Metropolis much more (though only rode this one a couple times while at MM) - liked the sets and game play
                        5.) Web Slingers - WS is still far better a screen shooter than Knott’s extinct Voyage of the Iron Reef ever was and I like the Avengers Campus tie-ins

                        I am also glad, from what I could tell on my visits, I hardly noticed anyone with the upcharge web shooters.

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                        • #13
                          Disney Parks, have to many screen shooters, ride based.
                          IMO
                          As well almost every Theme Park in the country , less have one........

                          I find this kind of attraction, is getting old fast !>
                          Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                          • #14
                            I was pretty disappointed by web slingers. The ride scenes all felt very similar to each other, and the novelty of swinging my arms around to shoot webs wore off quickly. However, part of that might be because I was absolutely terrible at it 😅.Midway Mania does such a good job of switching between games and keeping things interesting, but web slingers felt very bland.

                            It was a good arm workout though! Running around the parks is always a good leg workout, so now we have something to balance it out. Olympics, here we come 🤩

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                            • #15
                              Also, did anybody else feel bad for shooting at the spider bots?? They were so cute in the preshow 😆

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                              • #16
                                Seems I'm in the minority here, but I love the ride. It's super high adrenaline, fun, with lots of easter eggs and things to see that take many rides to catch them all. The accuracy of the web shooting is also quite good, better than any of the gun-based rides.

                                Not everything needs to be an e-ticket. For all the faults with Galaxy's Edge, Disney did a pretty good job not making the same ones with Avengers Campus, especially given the small area they had to work with. If they can just get going on the e-ticket quinjet ride.....

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by linkeq2001 View Post

                                  I agree with people that say not everything needs to be an E ticket. It’s not an E ticket and going into it expecting that appears to be what’s letting down some people. We haven’t experienced it but my son is super excited about it, so success I guess because it’s definitely hitting with a certain demographic.

                                  I think it would be looked on far more favorably if 1) It opened alongside a bigger E ticket attraction and was not required to “anchor” the land. 2) It wasn’t so heavily screens based because that fact makes it subjectively feel “a little lazy”. 3) It didn’t have a pretty stellar Spider-Man ride in Florida that lots of people will compared it to.

                                  I think we can compare it to the Millenium Falcon attraction. Once Rise opened it “feels” much better now that it’s not anchoring a land. There are some small feature sets people don’t like, screens, storyline, but lots are willing to overlook these for a fun ride. Probably where WS will sit if another E ticket ever lands there
                                  This land with a small ticket attraction opening strategy seems like it isn't exactly panning out.

                                  I feel like on paper it makes sense. I mean if you open a land with an Eticket and then add a smaller ticket later you don't really get a good media boom.

                                  I think the ultimate flaw has been that the lands have never been terribly engagning to explore despite that being the initial goal with them. Marvel suffers from its brief size and Star Wars from its lack of entertainment. Both are very undercooked for interactive elements, it's just never been a Hogwarts scenario for Disney.

                                  I can't help but feel they were onto something with the app idea for Star Wars but then left it underdeveloped.
                                  "We all have sparks, imagination! it's how our minds... create creations!"

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Jspider View Post
                                    I think the ultimate flaw has been that the lands have never been terribly engagning to explore despite that being the initial goal with them. Marvel suffers from its brief size and Star Wars from its lack of entertainment. Both are very undercooked for interactive elements, it's just never been a Hogwarts scenario for Disney.
                                    I think Hogwarts sets the standard for an amazing theme park experience and Disney has no answer to it. Never thought Disney would be second best in anything theme park related but they are slipping. If Disney keeps going in the direction they are headed, ten years from now I think Universal, especially in Orlando, might be a superior experience to Disney.

                                    And if you don't think that can happen, all you have to do is look at the last 6 months to see it is more than possible. If Chapek stays on as CEO, I think it's inevitable.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post

                                      I think Hogwarts sets the standard for an amazing theme park experience and Disney has no answer to it. Never thought Disney would be second best in anything theme park related but they are slipping. If Disney keeps going in the direction they are headed, ten years from now I think Universal, especially in Orlando, might be a superior experience to Disney.

                                      And if you don't think that can happen, all you have to do is look at the last 6 months to see it is more than possible. If Chapek stays on as CEO, I think it's inevitable.
                                      Chapek stays on as CEO,there going be lots of inevitable Issue! imo
                                      Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post

                                        I think Hogwarts sets the standard for an amazing theme park experience and Disney has no answer to it. Never thought Disney would be second best in anything theme park related but they are slipping. If Disney keeps going in the direction they are headed, ten years from now I think Universal, especially in Orlando, might be a superior experience to Disney.

                                        And if you don't think that can happen, all you have to do is look at the last 6 months to see it is more than possible. If Chapek stays on as CEO, I think it's inevitable.
                                        I think Disney sees Hogwarts success but has never wanted to really think through all that went into it. I will say though it was a bit of a perfect storm, Hogwarts is a very specific location that was designed even in its origional media to be a place you'd want to visit and explore. Avengers and Star Wars, while popular, arn't really designed in the same way with such a tight nit location with food/entertainment/etc all being folded in such a way that the land itself could be a draw.

                                        Also my own analogy isn't great since Hogswarts didn't open with the land and Flight of the Hippogriff, but it also doesn't feel wrong to say the land is something of a draw in itself.


                                        I think Avengers and Galaxies Edge all fumble the ball in odd places. I think a good comparison is how the Wands unlock more of the land to explore for Hogwarts while the Webshooters just sort of add a skin to Webslingers?

                                        To me it just seems like Avengers may be too small to really create a worthwhile exploration experience and Galaxies Edge was left too empty with all of its canceled entertainment.

                                        The real next level proof will be if Hollywood gets anything like Japans Nintendo experience. With all the movement and minigames it really looks like those wristbands will be the new thing.

                                        But I guess it's all wait and see.


                                        Webslingers is more repeatable than ITTBAB by most reviews anyways and I think that's worth remembering. Screen based shooters are the new replacement for the old 3D movie craze though maybe we'll consider that one more proven when Disney figures out how to add another one to the old Magic Eye theater
                                        "We all have sparks, imagination! it's how our minds... create creations!"

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