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  • News Dream Key Sold Out (& Trams Return)

    Apparently Disney has actually capped sales (as they said they would*). Also, per below, trams will be back next year.

    https://twitter.com/ScottGustin/stat...308045321?s=20


    *I was personally of little faith.

    ETA: Of course Disney raises regular tickets at the same time (gotta make up for the lost revenue)
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    Last edited by Jesser-pie; 10-25-2021, 08:25 AM.

  • #2
    All signs point to Josh re: price hikes.

    I think the Dream Key might have lost some value to Disney, hence the cap and parking increase.

    Trams are the sugar that helps the medicine go down.
    Last edited by Captain Andy; 10-25-2021, 09:16 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Captain Andy View Post
      All signs point to Josh re: price hikes.

      I think the Dream Key might have lost of some value to Disney, hence the cap and parking increase.

      Trams are the sugar that helps the medicine go down.
      Yeap. Conveniently sold out when parking prices go up. I don't think it's a coincidence. $$$$

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      • #4
        I don’t know if this is intended by Disney, but I could see them wanting to push some people to lower tiers to fill out other days of the park that don’t get reserved as quickly.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SkyG View Post

          Yeap. Conveniently sold out when parking prices go up. I don't think it's a coincidence. $$$$
          I also wondered if it was tied to the stock price. In the last week the stock has steadily dropped after the announcement and negative press of Genie+, and Passholders not being able to get in for the next twelve weekends. Couple that with it being the end of the year, I see this as a scramble to try and keep the stock up through the end of the quarter.

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          • #6
            "Sold Out" only to return in 2022 for $1599.
            Big Thunder Ranch > Galaxys Edge

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Goldendreamer View Post

              I also wondered if it was tied to the stock price. In the last week the stock has steadily dropped after the announcement and negative press of Genie+, and Passholders not being able to get in for the next twelve weekends. Couple that with it being the end of the year, I see this as a scramble to try and keep the stock up through the end of the quarter.
              More negative press on it way.............with the price hikes
              Even Wall-Street see Issue's !
              IMO
              Soaring like an EAGLE !

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              • #8

                Disney says they're bringing the trams back. When? Don't hold your breath on it happening soon.

                From today's MiceChat Disneyland Update:

                "There was no way around this one for Disney. The movement for the trams to return has been building, reaching a fever pitch when the return of the Monorail was announced with no mention of what folks really needed, transportation to and from the parking structures. Well, with parking prices going up by $5 to a hefty $30, it would have been nearly impossible for Disney to explain the justification for raising prices but not offering a basic service such as trams.

                "But don’t expect the trams to return immediately. It’s going to take some time to complete maintenance on the long-parked trams, staff the large team required, retrain everyone (all of which will have lost their certifications during the extended shutdown), and test and adjust operations. We don’t think that would be possible much before the end of the year, but we hope it comes as soon as possible."


                "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
                it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
                together with every variety of recreation and fun,
                designed to appeal to everyone."

                - Walt Disney

                "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
                - Michael Eisner

                "It's very symbiotic."
                - Bob Chapek

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jesser-pie View Post
                  Apparently Disney has actually capped sales (as they said they would*). Also, per below, trams will be back next year.

                  https://twitter.com/ScottGustin/stat...308045321?s=20


                  *I was personally of little faith.

                  ETA: Of course Disney raises regular tickets at the same time (gotta make up for the lost revenue)
                  Of course. Yet people, maybe even yourself, will continue to purchase tickets and passes. Me, I have decided not to purchase right now. In the end, it will probably be cheaper for me to just go when they have specials.
                  "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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                  • #10
                    Funny how the price for parking goes up immediately but the trams are coming next year. SMH how do these clowns keep their jobs? Any other company the board would have stepped in by now as they would smell the desperation of management and it's failures.

                    Imagine if cheap park ran Tesla?

                    " I come to you today to announce the Tesla 8 it has no engine and no motor... in fact it runs on pedals and not only do you get unlimited gas milage with no need for fuel or battery but you also get a great work out on the way to work. The infotainment system is as great as a iPad ...because it is an iPad you all have them right? So now you just put yours on the holder and ah the fresh air... we are very exited to open up the reservations today $5000. Retail price will be $120K for delivery sometime in the 21st century. Oh and self driving cost about $25K a year ( the cost of hiring a college kid to pedal for you ) "
                    Last edited by Starcade; 10-26-2021, 10:34 AM.
                    Disneyland Fan since the 70's

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
                      Disney says they're bringing the trams back. When? Don't hold your breath on it happening soon.

                      From today's MiceChat Disneyland Update:

                      "There was no way around this one for Disney. The movement for the trams to return has been building, reaching a fever pitch when the return of the Monorail was announced with no mention of what folks really needed, transportation to and from the parking structures. Well, with parking prices going up by $5 to a hefty $30, it would have been nearly impossible for Disney to explain the justification for raising prices but not offering a basic service such as trams.

                      "But don’t expect the trams to return immediately. It’s going to take some time to complete maintenance on the long-parked trams, staff the large team required, retrain everyone (all of which will have lost their certifications during the extended shutdown), and test and adjust operations. We don’t think that would be possible much before the end of the year, but we hope it comes as soon as possible."

                      It not going be soon.......and never hold your breath with Di$ney((()))IMO
                      Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                      • #12
                        "SOLD OUT"

                        Hilarious, how can you "sell out" of something virtual that can be created from nothing. The answer, you can't. As others have observed, they "sold out" right before the price increase.

                        I think this is also a FOMO inducement, creating a "limited supply" reaction on the part of guests.

                        This way when they "reintroduce" the pass at its new higher price, they'll have people fighting each other for the opportunity to plunk down $1699 or even $1799 in the coming months.

                        It's all so comical. Disney inducing tulip mania. Hurry, buy now or be priced out forever!!

                        Starcade Your hypothetical Tesla analogy was hilarious and so on point!

                        Eagleman - hit it ---- "there's more to life than Disney!"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Starcade View Post
                          ...SMH how do these clowns keep their jobs?
                          The sad reality is that they're in no danger of losing their jobs when their management policies bring results like this:

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                          Photos from MiceChat's Disneyland Update October 11.


                          "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
                          it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
                          together with every variety of recreation and fun,
                          designed to appeal to everyone."

                          - Walt Disney

                          "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
                          - Michael Eisner

                          "It's very symbiotic."
                          - Bob Chapek

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Golden Zephyr View Post
                            "SOLD OUT"

                            Hilarious, how can you "sell out" of something virtual that can be created from nothing. The answer, you can't. As others have observed, they "sold out" right before the price increase.

                            I think this is also a FOMO inducement, creating a "limited supply" reaction on the part of guests.

                            This way when they "reintroduce" the pass at its new higher price, they'll have people fighting each other for the opportunity to plunk down $1699 or even $1799 in the coming months.

                            It's all so comical. Disney inducing tulip mania. Hurry, buy now or be priced out forever!!

                            Starcade Your hypothetical Tesla analogy was hilarious and so on point!

                            Eagleman - hit it ---- "there's more to life than Disney!"



                            AMAZING......one really got to ask , what really going on with the over all company !
                            I starting see the EXIT LIGHT>>>>>for Bob Chapek !

                            Just know for sure , it time Big overhaul for the top Leadership.........CEO and down!
                            Soaring like an EAGLE !

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                            • #15
                              You know this is actually slightly good in the long game regarding reservations. Let me explain:

                              But First, a Recap
                              1.Disney is forced to put limitations on DL's & DCA's attendance. This leads to Reservations to maintain attendance control

                              2. Somebody (Bobby C.) realizes they can "wield the yield" by using reservations to hyperpriotize the budget each day and yield more profit. Current DLR President Ken Potrock allegedly says "the days of overcrowding are over".

                              3. Disneyland attendence remains low as the AP program is being reworked. Disney releases New AP Program(Magic Key) to bring demand back, but restrictions entail some backlash.

                              4. Theme parks numbers for 2020 are revealed and all California theme parks numbers are down(because of COVID). Universal Hollywood's numbers are shockingly not far away from DCA's numbers. In related news, Universal bragged online how "they care for their APs", just immediately after Disney cancels the program.

                              5. Disney makes the Magic Key program more difficult, by making the scheduling process sporadic as he11. Magic Key dates are booked out for this year, and sales of the highest tier are immediately suspended. Yet, Disney decides to raise the prices anyway.

                              My forecast:

                              Disney's actions will do more harm than good. Projected revenue will come up short for the Holidays. Tourists will hold out returning to the parks, causing massive vacancies for the parks. This causes TDA to panic and reopens availability for Magic Key immediately. And it leads to Magic Key scheduling being narrowed down to only 4 to 6 weeks in advance.

                              Theme Parks numbers for 2021 are revealed in 2022...and the numbers are lukewarm. Not bad....but disappointing. Disneyland is back in the Top 5, but DCA's numbers are noticeably still low, despite Avengers Campus. UHS numbers are on the rise (and potentially overtakes DCA's ranking in 2022, with Super Nintendo World).

                              Disney comes to realization that their gatekeeping scheme isn't financially working, as they are still making less money than pre-pandemic. Disney/Chapek announces the suspension and eventual cancellation of Park Reservations with the BS excuse of "our world is finally back to normal".

                              And by this time next year, Disney will be back to packing guests like Sardines during the Holidays.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

                                The sad reality is that they're in no danger of losing their jobs when their management policies bring results like this:

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                                Photos from MiceChat's Disneyland Update October 11.

                                The saddest thing about the pics Mr. Wiggins posted is the faces of the guests - no one in that huge crowd is smiling! Happiest place?

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by TacAlert View Post

                                  Of course. Yet people, maybe even yourself, will continue to purchase tickets and passes. Me, I have decided not to purchase right now. In the end, it will probably be cheaper for me to just go when they have specials.
                                  Yes.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

                                    The sad reality is that they're in no danger of losing their jobs when their management policies bring results like this:

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                                    Photos from MiceChat's Disneyland Update October 11.

                                    It seems more likely that people's jobs would be in danger if the park were empty rather than full.

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                                    • #19
                                      I'm guessing Disney is throwing us a bone (the tram). With all the prices sky rocketing at the parks, they figured if the give us something we've been crying for, maybe we won't notice the huge price increase.

                                      But, I wouldn't be surprised if they start charging to use the tram.

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                                      • #20
                                        Disney is not the same. They lost interest in looking out for their customers. More like robbing us for more money. If THAT how crowds are today. I'll be waiting until the pandemic become contained.

                                        The guest don't look happy either Probably with dealing with outrageous prices for souvenirs and food. Lack of service care. LOL

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