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  • News DLR Union Contract Negotiations in Trouble

    Tis the Season?

    Per MiceChat:

    Disneyland’s union workers (represented by the Master Services Council, a collection of several Disneyland unions) voted on their contract yesterday in the Lincoln theater at Disneyland.

    Early returns indicate that Disneyland’s workers have overwhelmingly voted “No” to the new contract, while Disney California Adventure’s union workers appear to have narrowly voted “Yes.”

    However, there was some confusion among cast due to voting irregularities, including some cast being given ballots for the wrong park, observers being kicked out from the counting process before the finally tally was given, and ballots being rejected for marks in incorrect places or names being written on them.

    The contract that workers were voting on included a $3 wage increase over three years, as well as bonuses for long term employees.

    The ballot itself included language intended to scare cast members into voting “Yes” by making them think that a “No” vote would result in a strike. That’s not necessarily what would happen in a situation like this. The union would instead poll its members on what they would accept and attempt to continue negotiations with Disney. Only in the event that those negotiations failed would a strike possibly happen. But Disney would very likely be given the chance to step up to demands before workers take to the picket line. So don’t cancel your vacation just yet.

    If this process has proven anything, it’s that cast members are standing up not only to a contract they are unhappy with, but also being vocal against their own union representation. The unions have responded by locking down their Facebook groups so their members can’t comment. And that, in turn, has fueled calls for investigations of the vote and a movement to replace union leadership.
    It baffles me that Union leaders didn't merge both parks into 1 contract. Having Seperate contracts have led to Cast Members losing seniority after transfering to another park or even another land like Galaxy's Edge.

    Your thoughts?
    Disneyland's union workers (represented by the Master Services Council, a collection of several Disneyland unions) voted on their contract yesterday

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    I think two of the readers' comments to the MiceChat Update nail it:

    What a dumpster fire. Chapek needs to own this as the ultimate head of everything. If you can't take care of your people, top to bottom, you aren't worth your own pay. Heads should roll, starting at the top.

    I mean, they definitely won't. But they should.
    It's disgraceful and embarrassing that it is a better decision financially for people to work at In N Out Burger flipping burgers, working a register, or even scrubbing toilets, than to work at one of the top 10 world class theme park resorts in the entire world.
    And for those whose kneejerk reaction is to blame the union, consider how Disney first dealt with Scarlett Johansson. For anyone but their top assets, they are purely a "my way or the highway" corporation.



    "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
    it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
    together with every variety of recreation and fun,
    designed to appeal to everyone."

    - Walt Disney

    "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
    - Michael Eisner

    "It's very symbiotic."
    - Bob Chapek

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post
      It baffles me that Union leaders didn't merge both parks into 1 contract. Having Seperate contracts have led to Cast Members losing seniority after transfering to another park or even another land like Galaxy's Edge.
      It's not like our Reps haven't tried to unify the contracts. The issue is that if the contracts were unified, the DLR cast would have an immense amount of bargaining power. With the contracts split, if one park went on strike because, say, they voted No on a new contract while the other park voted yes, then theoretically the company could just staff the park with CMs from the other contract. If the contracts were unified, and we all voted No together, then the company would have to take us a lot more seriously when we threaten to leave them without a workforce. It'll be a cold day in hell when the company gives us that sort of power.

      And as a workaround for having two contracts, the company is negotiating with Master Services to add language that would allow CMs to keep their seniority between the parks. But as of right now, nothing like that is in the new contract.

      Also, just hijacking this thread really quick to say that DL CMs are going to be really stressed out over the next couple weeks/months. A lot of us feel like we aren't being taken seriously by the company and/or our union leadership. And now we have to fight with both to try and get a contract that works for us. If you know any DL CMs, please reach out and ask how they're doing. Nobody wants this to turn ugly, but it's becoming more and more clear that it'll get worse before it gets better. If you're visiting the parks this winter and you're affected by anything strike related, I am genuinely sorry. But it's clear that the company will only respond if we hit them in their wallet. Hopefully we will come out of this dark time with a cast that is better supported financially, because when CMs have their basic needs met they'll do a better job of providing the level of service that I know a lot of you expect.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post

        It's not like our Reps haven't tried to unify the contracts. The issue is that if the contracts were unified, the DLR cast would have an immense amount of bargaining power. With the contracts split, if one park went on strike because, say, they voted No on a new contract while the other park voted yes, then theoretically the company could just staff the park with CMs from the other contract. If the contracts were unified, and we all voted No together, then the company would have to take us a lot more seriously when we threaten to leave them without a workforce. It'll be a cold day in hell when the company gives us that sort of power.

        And as a workaround for having two contracts, the company is negotiating with Master Services to add language that would allow CMs to keep their seniority between the parks. But as of right now, nothing like that is in the new contract.

        Also, just hijacking this thread really quick to say that DL CMs are going to be really stressed out over the next couple weeks/months. A lot of us feel like we aren't being taken seriously by the company and/or our union leadership. And now we have to fight with both to try and get a contract that works for us. If you know any DL CMs, please reach out and ask how they're doing. Nobody wants this to turn ugly, but it's becoming more and more clear that it'll get worse before it gets better. If you're visiting the parks this winter and you're affected by anything strike related, I am genuinely sorry. But it's clear that the company will only respond if we hit them in their wallet. Hopefully we will come out of this dark time with a cast that is better supported financially, because when CMs have their basic needs met they'll do a better job of providing the level of service that I know a lot of you expect.
        Thanks Helmsman!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post

          It's not like our Reps haven't tried to unify the contracts. The issue is that if the contracts were unified, the DLR cast would have an immense amount of bargaining power. With the contracts split, if one park went on strike because, say, they voted No on a new contract while the other park voted yes, then theoretically the company could just staff the park with CMs from the other contract. If the contracts were unified, and we all voted No together, then the company would have to take us a lot more seriously when we threaten to leave them without a workforce. It'll be a cold day in hell when the company gives us that sort of power.

          And as a workaround for having two contracts, the company is negotiating with Master Services to add language that would allow CMs to keep their seniority between the parks. But as of right now, nothing like that is in the new contract.

          Also, just hijacking this thread really quick to say that DL CMs are going to be really stressed out over the next couple weeks/months. A lot of us feel like we aren't being taken seriously by the company and/or our union leadership. And now we have to fight with both to try and get a contract that works for us. If you know any DL CMs, please reach out and ask how they're doing. Nobody wants this to turn ugly, but it's becoming more and more clear that it'll get worse before it gets better. If you're visiting the parks this winter and you're affected by anything strike related, I am genuinely sorry. But it's clear that the company will only respond if we hit them in their wallet. Hopefully we will come out of this dark time with a cast that is better supported financially, because when CMs have their basic needs met they'll do a better job of providing the level of service that I know a lot of you expect.
          You have my union solidarity, Bluebird, as do all the other Cast Members. Know that you all are loud and everyone sees and hears you! The executives and management will act all aloof to throw you off –– don't fall for it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post



            Also, just hijacking this thread really quick to say that DL CMs are going to be really stressed out over the next couple weeks/months. A lot of us feel like we aren't being taken seriously by the company and/or our union leadership. And now we have to fight with both to try and get a contract that works for us. If you know any DL CMs, please reach out cast that is better supported financially, because when CMs have their basic needs met they'll do a better job of providing the level of service that I know a lot of you expect.
            absolutely, Bluebird! Always thank CMs. I have sent emails to Disney admin . Stating CMs make the Disney experience, and you all need to compensated appropriately.
            whatever you all need, definitely support

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            • #7
              Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post

              It's not like our Reps haven't tried to unify the contracts. The issue is that if the contracts were unified, the DLR cast would have an immense amount of bargaining power. With the contracts split, if one park went on strike because, say, they voted No on a new contract while the other park voted yes, then theoretically the company could just staff the park with CMs from the other contract. If the contracts were unified, and we all voted No together, then the company would have to take us a lot more seriously when we threaten to leave them without a workforce. It'll be a cold day in hell when the company gives us that sort of power.
              but it's becoming more and more clear that it'll get worse before it gets better.
              I sure have seen ,this before in Big Business.........
              Company knows- Unions most of time does not work together....
              and the company going take the advantage.......
              and your right .....it'll get worse before it gets better!
              and
              Seperate contracts have led to Cast Members losing seniority
              after transfering to another park or even another land like Galaxy's Edge.
              This is Not Good.........except for the Company......SAD
              Soaring like an EAGLE !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by InTheRealm View Post

                absolutely, Bluebird! Always thank CMs. I have sent emails to Disney admin . Stating CMs make the Disney experience, and you all need to compensated appropriately.
                whatever you all need, definitely support
                I always like this type of response regarding compensation. What is an appropriate amount of compensation for a CM?
                "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TacAlert View Post

                  I always like this type of response regarding compensation. What is an appropriate amount of compensation for a CM?
                  I'm glad you asked. MIT has a really good living wage calculator that currently puts Anaheim at needing a $19 an hour wage, just to support a single adult with no children. Disney's last proposal fell $2 short of that. In fact, we wouldn't hit $19 at any point over the three years of the contract. So in this case, an appropriate amount of compensation would be, at bare minimum, a living wage.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post

                    I'm glad you asked. MIT has a really good living wage calculator that currently puts Anaheim at needing a $19 an hour wage, just to support a single adult with no children. Disney's last proposal fell $2 short of that. In fact, we wouldn't hit $19 at any point over the three years of the contract. So in this case, an appropriate amount of compensation would be, at bare minimum, a living wage.
                    Thank you for an honest and informative answer. I always ask this when someone throws out "living wage". Interesting site that provided good info.
                    "And yes, we implore EVERYBODY to follow the park rules. Having off-ride footage is great, but any still photo's or video's taken ON the coasters at SFMM are strictly against the rules. They are there for your (and everybody's) safety." "Six Flags doesn't allow ANY loose articles on their coasters, and they don't allow video taping on their coasters. " BUT, "​ This is not true. Six Flags does not allow ANY On-Ride video or pictures on the rides. The ONLY way is if you get explicit permission from Park Management." ???

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by _Bluebird View Post

                      I'm glad you asked. MIT has a really good living wage calculator that currently puts Anaheim at needing a $19 an hour wage, just to support a single adult with no children. Disney's last proposal fell $2 short of that. In fact, we wouldn't hit $19 at any point over the three years of the contract. So in this case, an appropriate amount of compensation would be, at bare minimum, a living wage.
                      To piggy back off of this. Considering the reputation and profit of a company like Disney, or specifically the DL resort. Let's assume we were trying to determine a fair wage for workers, it would be wise to not only establish a baseline pay based on median livable wage in the Anaheim/OC region, but to also consider what kind of work pays this wage at it's minimum/introductory level jobs. Then, determine where employment at the DLR falls in relation to this kind of work, based on job demands, reputation, and profits.

                      This is entirely speculative, but in this model, let's say we find the median livable wage to be the $19/hr for a 40hr/week job you listed. And lets ASSUME a job that pays that much at its minimum/introductory position might be something like line cook at a decent table service restaurant. One might then argue that, jobs that appear to be "less" than that, line a cook at the hungry bear, should then receive less pay. However, when we take into account the shear VOLUME of orders prepared by a line cook at a decent restaurant verses the meals prepared at the hungry bear, we might safely assume that DLR cooks should receive equal, if not more pay. Factor in how much profit is generated by all restaurants of this caliber in the parks, and take into account the expected reputation of service within the parks. It does become "easier" to understand why many people, myself included, support paying workers in DLR more. Much more than they are currently making. Even if it comes at increased ticket prices (or more "fairly" at the reduction of executive and upper management bonuses, especially during and directly fallowing mass letting go of workers during the quarantine).

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