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  • What's the latest on trams?

    Yes, no, maybe so?

  • #2
    Soon - Lightning Lane option only - minimum price $18.00 per person

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    • #3
      Di$ney
      pay experience !............Walking to the Park.......for higher price for parking
      IMO...I don't expect a lot from Disney PR-BS-,that the TRAMS are coming back......
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      • #4
        Trams are back at MK at WDW and Disney has announced that they'll be back at DLR 'early next year'. I'm hoping that 'early' means sometime in the first three months.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RosieTheRed View Post
          Soon - Lightning Lane option only - minimum price $18.00 per person
          Seems plausible. Ugh.
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          It seems to me that we have a lot of story yet to tell. ― Walt Disney

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          • #6
            They are coming back but apparently only 4 of them. So the lines will be very long and it will probablyl be quicker to walk.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
              They are coming back but apparently only 4 of them. So the lines will be very long and it will probablyl be quicker to walk.
              ONLY 4..............Mercy.........
              IMO Disney can do better than that !
              For higher price for parking$$$$$$$
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              • #8
                I have always referred to the structure as the "evil" parking structure. Even with a dozen trams running.
                Nope. Toy Story lot for me! EZ in. EZ out. Buses running pretty much constantly, arriving and departing.
                Haven't used the structure since the Toy Story lot opened.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                  They are coming back but apparently only 4 of them. So the lines will be very long and it will probablyl be quicker to walk.
                  How many are there normally? I have always stayed at the hotels, so I haven't been on them in decades.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spongeocto4 View Post

                    How many are there normally? I have always stayed at the hotels, so I haven't been on them in decades.
                    Honestly I’m not sure but I think double or triple that amount.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by allretired View Post
                      I have always referred to the structure as the "evil" parking structure. Even with a dozen trams running.
                      Nope. Toy Story lot for me! EZ in. EZ out. Buses running pretty much constantly, arriving and departing.
                      Haven't used the structure since the Toy Story lot opened.
                      I Agree with you,
                      Toy Story lot .......is more EZ
                      When it is open ....?.....imo
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                        They are coming back but apparently only 4 of them. So the lines will be very long and it will probablyl be quicker to walk.
                        During most hours there were only 4 trams circulating prior to the closure. In fact even some evenings where the parks were busy they only had 4 driving which would create a long back up. It may seem like more - but if you looked at the vehicle numbers you'd realize that you were seeing the same units over and over again. On non peak hours it would drop to 2 trams. I think they only own 8 total units.


                        So if this statement is true it isn't a very big problem. They have dropped from having 50+ busses for Toy Story to only 24 and they're all electric requiring charging at some point in the day - and unless you are arriving at park opening or walking out right after the last firework explodes there is usually less than a 10 minute line now. In addition they had expanded the "Mickey Bus" ADA service before to reduce wheelchair loads on the trams and speed things up significantly - I would imagine this would continue.

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                        • #13
                          I heard yesterday they might bring back 7 trams now.

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                          • #14
                            Can anyone verify if the buses are running from Toy Story to the park & back?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tarheelalum View Post
                              I heard yesterday they might bring back 7 trams now.
                              They should....and use them.......
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                              Last edited by Eagleman; 01-02-2022, 08:32 PM.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Hot Sauce 1 View Post
                                Can anyone verify if the buses are running from Toy Story to the park & back?
                                Yes, When Toy Story lot is open.................
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Hot Sauce 1 View Post
                                  Can anyone verify if the buses are running from Toy Story to the park & back?
                                  As Eagleman said, they are, but I've always found that parking area very unpredictable in terms of whether or not it's open. I've only been sent there probably two or three times.

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                                  • #18
                                    Up Front Caveat: Not being a California resident, I have NEVER ridden the Trams or used the parking structure.

                                    That being said, I can't think of a good reason why they haven't installed a PeopleMover into the Tram path. Obviously it would be a huge initial financial expense, but at some point it has to make sense compared to gas, maintenance, and even Cast costs. Cover the whole path with solar panels for weather & energy savings, and provide spurs on each end to allow seriously disabled guests additional time for entry and exit (surely the Imagineers can write a computer program to make that work). On Google Maps, it looks like it's an uninterrupted path with maybe one Cast member crossing. I find it hard to believe no one has suggested this before.

                                    The Disneyland Monorail proved it's reliability & usefulness and was updated for use in Florida. Why can't the solution to this be from the Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow as well?

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by ClownLoach View Post

                                      During most hours there were only 4 trams circulating prior to the closure. In fact even some evenings where the parks were busy they only had 4 driving which would create a long back up. It may seem like more - but if you looked at the vehicle numbers you'd realize that you were seeing the same units over and over again. On non peak hours it would drop to 2 trams. I think they only own 8 total units.

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                                      I'm not sure how accurate this is. When I worked in trams (five years ago or so, mind you), there were 10 trams, during the peak would operate 7 (3 loading zones at both the "green room", which is the structure, and Parkside, which is DTD, and 1 zone for drop off). 1 would be refueling at all times, leaving 6 on the loop.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by denyuntilcaught View Post

                                        I'm not sure how accurate this is. When I worked in trams (five years ago or so, mind you), there were 10 trams, during the peak would operate 7 (3 loading zones at both the "green room", which is the structure, and Parkside, which is DTD, and 1 zone for drop off). 1 would be refueling at all times, leaving 6 on the loop.
                                        I would defer to your expertise. However in the months prior to the parks closure there had been a noticeable reduction in the frequency of tram service. On weekday nights it was not unusual to wait for up to 45 minutes for a tram back to the garage, and only one or two loading zones were being used. And Disney had just implemented a giant queue that filled most of the area that formerly was the esplanade security screening tents. Guests were being actively encouraged by Cast members to walk through DTD to the new walkway and bridge. It was pretty bad, and I'm sure the new status quo won't be better.

                                        I think they deliberately waited to change the habits of the guests to balance use of both lots. Now that the only way to get ADA transportation from parking is to use the Toy Story lot - there is a consistent line of wheelchairs awaiting bus loading. But it is much faster to load the bus with motorized ramps versus the very manual process on the tram. I'm sure this has changed the habits and will encourage ADA parking mostly only at Toy Story.

                                        I do wonder if they will see if they can get away with removing the ADA car from the tram - because with the little ADA "Mickey bus" fleet that was added in they could argue that the tram isn't an "experience" but just transportation and as such the bus is equivalent for ADA purposes. This little change would allow for a significant improvement in turnaround times for the trams as a wheelchair load was taking at least five minutes - otherwise the tram can load and depart in thirty seconds if the path is clear. It of course can also reduce the number of trams driven - and since Disney subcontracts bus services to Anaheim Resort Transportation now they will have less cast members on the payroll as the bus transports wheelchairs.

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