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September 12 and 18, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Parts 1 and 2

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  • September 12 and 18, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Parts 1 and 2

    I was struck by the eerie similarities — and the major differences — between Hong Kong Disneyland and the original Disneyland. I thought it might be fun to run some comparison photos.

    This is the discussion thread for parts 1 and 2.
    Last edited by Werner Weiss; 09-17-2008, 07:45 PM. Reason: To make this the discussion thread for parts 1 and 2.
    Werner Weiss
    Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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    Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

    This is a really fun article; thanks for putting it together. I can't wait for next week's continuation. It's really funny to see those large mountains behind the castle in Hong Kong!

    Nice work; Werner!

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    • #3
      Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

      Very interesting update! The mountains behind the castle are the perfect backdrop - really makes you feel like you are in a fairy tale land. The mature trees behind Disneyland's castle throw it out of proportion. DL feels "plopped" into the middle of nowhere by comparison to the mountain view.

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      • #4
        Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

        The American flags are missing in Main Street and the British flag is missing on the Tarzan treehouse. Does Hong Kong have anything against flags?
        Even the sensitive French placed their American flags back recently.

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          Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

          So far for me the original blows away Hong Kong.

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            Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

            The mountains/hills behind the HKDL's castle are very pretty, although so is the blue sky behind the original castle.

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            • #7
              Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

              "For Hong Kong Disneyland, the Imagineers went back to the original Disneyland design—undoubtedly at the direction of cost-conscious executives."

              Having worked for Themed Design companies, it disturbs me that whenever the online community sees something they love repeated elsewhere they accuse the producers of cutting corners, of being <shudder> 'cost-conscious'.

              Consider why you love the original. Then consider that the producer MAY love it for the same reason and made the creative decision to honor that original choice by repeating it.

              Yes, Main Street at WDW is bigger. But it lacks the intimate charm of Anaheim's. Maybe -- just maybe -- WDI recognized that Walt got it right and decided to share that fact with the Chinese.

              Just maybe.

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              • #8
                Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

                Great Article and Pictures! Wonderful to see what the parks look like (& alike!) in HK. Great ieda to compare, possibly compare more parks in the future? Thanks!!!

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                • #9
                  Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

                  The Big 3 automakers tried the same thing with retrocars...break out the blueprints from 40-50 years ago and save a wad of cash. But it didn't work out for them in the long run and it probably won't work for Disney unless they do some serious original designing in Hong Kong. Believe me, there's nothing "creative" about deciding on using 50 year old blueprints. Creative would be to use the blueprints as a *base*, and then design something new from them, like they did in Paris.

                  Hopefully this will be the last Magic Kingdom style park. I don't mind Disney building tons of parks, I just don't like it that the original Disneyland loses something in its uniqueness each time it's duplicated around the world. Disney can build 100 parks around the world for all I care, just as long as they are not Magic Kingdom style.

                  Excellent article!

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                  • #10
                    Re: September 15, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

                    I couldn't help but think of a couple of other duplicate parks: Nara Dreamland and the Beijing Shijingshan park. These left me with a creepy feeling that I can't get away from whenever I think about them. And the cloning (albeit legitimate) of Hong Kong from Anaheim made me remember them.

                    The big difference of course is that Hong Kong is a real Disneyland and not some creepy, icky impostor. Fortunately Dreamland is long gone and the other is supposedly changing its ways.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

                      my name is dave and i'm doing my master's thesis in design on theming. i also visited HK disneyland this past june, and i thought you would be curious to read my detailed notes on the park at my blog: www.themerica.org/blog

                      i wrote six pieces in all about the park:

                      the forest through the trees


                      copies of copies


                      future fantasies


                      spaces really do need people


                      feng shui, the disney way


                      the art of disney typography


                      i've been a miceage reader for years...hopefully you will find some things of interest on my blog. in the past year i've visited all eleven disney parks around the world, and you can read about most of them there.

                      cheers!

                      dave gottwald
                      www.themerica.org

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                      • #12
                        Re: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Part 1

                        Interesting stuff, great site.

                        Originally posted by daveyjones View Post
                        my name is dave and i'm doing my master's thesis in design on theming. i also visited HK disneyland this past june, and i thought you would be curious to read my detailed notes on the park at my blog: www.themerica.org/blog

                        www.themerica.org
                        VISIT my sketchblog: M54

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                        • #13
                          Re: September 12 and 18, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Parts 1 and 2

                          Because Part 2 of "Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original" is a continuation of Part 1, it made sense to me to use the same MiceChat thread for both.

                          So I edited the initial post, and this in now the thread for both parts.
                          Werner Weiss
                          Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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                          • #14
                            Re: September 12 and 18, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Parts 1 and 2



                            Hong Kong Disneyland has the best looking Autopia, that's for sure.

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                            • #15
                              Re: September 12 and 18, 2008: Hong Kong Disneyland and the Original, Parts 1 and 2

                              A great ending to a terrific story! Thanks for putting this together. Excellent job!

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