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  • Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

    Enjoy convenient, free hotel tram service all day. The hotel tram leaves from its own stop at the park.


    Please discuss it here.
    Last edited by Werner Weiss; 01-26-2012, 07:35 PM.
    Werner Weiss
    Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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    Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

    Awesome article Werner! I used to LOVE taking this little tram back and forth in the 80s and 90s, even. The best part of those pictures was the completely open trams with no idiot-proof lock bars or doors - when people had to be responsible for their own safety!

    But wow - some of those pics depict very rickety and dirty trams, don't they?
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    • #3
      Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

      People also think the Disneyland Hotel Monorail Station is AFTER the Downtown Disney Monorail Station. Or trying to do multiple trips on the monorail. It's a one-way trip from DTD to Tomorrowland Station.

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      • #4
        Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

        the hotel tram used to stop at the bus stop on it's way to the main gate.
        When I worked at DL in the late 80s/early 90s, I used to ride the bus from Huntington Beach and we would catch the tram.

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        • #5
          Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

          Ahh yes......the days when kids looked like kids, and everyone was clean and neatly dressed. Definitely a Golden Age in America!

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          • #6
            Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

            Great picture above of Disneyland's Indiana Jones roping and rigging details and those great perspective ladders on the temple. Shirley Temple was often a visitor to Disney events and I got to see and talk to her during American Sings design and production while she was a United states Ambassador to Ghana. I loved the Bob Gurr latter designed trams much better.
            Last edited by DisWedWay; 01-20-2012, 10:53 AM. Reason: update

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            • #7
              Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

              I have very fond memories of the Monorail Cafe at the old DLH.
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              • #8
                Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                Great article, Werner!

                The Disneyland Hotel from that era is fascinating. And how amazing is the tram with the outward facing seats?

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                • #9
                  Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                  Great article. I remember taking the tram from the park to the hotel and walking around the hotel and maybe getting a bite at one of the restaurants and then take the tram back to the park.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                    I miss the monorail cafe and I wish they'ed bring back the monorail cafe in a new form.


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                    • #11
                      Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                      A bit of old school trivia - you used to be able to get on the Monorail at the Disneyland Hotel and buy a monorail-only ride for a buck or two without needing an entry ticket to the park. It would go round trip through the park and back to the hotel where you would exit, but they obviously kept you onboard during the Tomorrowland stop. This went on into at least the late 80's, maybe longer.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                        I remember having the hotel tram shifts back in the mid 80's. It was probably the most uneventful job to have except in the morning and at closing when your primary job was to tell people they were on the wrong tram. The best part of the job was that you were pretty much on your own. Some day's the leads would tell you to take your own breaks because there was usually a shortage of drivers. But those trams were so crappy. The hotel and parade tram were usually one step away from falling apart.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                          "There’s so much to do at Yesterland. You should come back tomorrow to see it all."
                          Should be:
                          "There’s so much to do at Yesterland. You should come back the day before yesterday to see it all."
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                          • #14
                            Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                            Originally posted by ex-wdi View Post
                            A bit of old school trivia - you used to be able to get on the Monorail at the Disneyland Hotel and buy a monorail-only ride for a buck or two without needing an entry ticket to the park. It would go round trip through the park and back to the hotel where you would exit, but they obviously kept you onboard during the Tomorrowland stop. This went on into at least the late 80's, maybe longer.
                            They were supposed to keep you on board during the Tomorrowland stop, but occasionally the Monorail CM on the platform would hit the Door Open button for the tail-cone too - and a lot of people who thought they were only making a lap of the park to look around gladly disembarked inside the park. :yea:

                            Even though you had to buy individual ride tickets at the inside ticket booths once you found yourself inside (if you didn't already have some leftover ones with you) and you might have a problem with a hand-stamp re-admit without a ticket... The cost of the Tailcone Monorail Trip was less than a park admission ticket. Probably one of the reasons why they stopped doing it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                              I used to work for Airport Service in the ticket booth under the monorail station at the hotel. Circa 1978-1980. What used to be the spot for the old VIP cars turned into a large bus station which was leased to "Airport Service,inc". These large 53 passenger nice buses were a great ride from LAX, Orange County/John Wayne airport to/from the Disneland hotel. There was also a small bus depot at the Grand Hotel across Harbor from the park. I used to sell the tickets for these busses and also "Orange Coast Sightseeing" bus charter tour packages for Sea World, Universal Studios, LA ZOO and other points of interest. Grayline tho was our main competition for those,etc.

                              Now my ticket booth has been stuccoe'd over and downtown Disney has been built all around it. Was very weird walking around that area recently. I have fond memories tho, like when a school bus got caught in the plastic guard under the monorail track right in front of my booth. It got stuck trying to take the tram route to turn/circle around and got jammed under the monorail track. They had to let air out of the tires to get it low enough to clear. Can't remember if I had my camera at the time for taking a pic, but it would've been classic!! LOL.

                              Other fond memories were of meeting ladies from nurses or hair dressors conventions at the "Cantina" after work which was just a short walk from the booth,heh. Drank many a beer in there,heh. Later the Cantina had become "Sergeant Preston's" but was still a bar & grill of sorts with a stage show,etc.

                              With my uniform the same as the drivers,(khaki CHP shirt w/brown tie and brown pants) I was able to "sign in" as a bus charter driver after work to get into the park for free. I'd take the tram to the main gate, sign in and go see my favorite jazz stars when they had great jazz bands playing in August. Met my wife too on one of those little after work excursions,heh. I miss that job!!! LOL.

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                              • #16
                                Re: Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                                When I worked at the park in the 70's and 80's, I also took the bus (OCTD in those days). And all the routes, the Katella bus, Ball Road, Harbor...diverted over to West Street in the DL area.
                                And going home, it was always interesting thta no matter how many times the "this tram does not go to the parking lot" announcement was made, people still got on, and then off multiple times til it was time to head out...
                                And being a radio guy, of course I noticed the old KEZY 1190 studios at the hotel.
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                                • #17
                                  Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                                  Originally posted by George Taylor View Post
                                  Great article, Werner!

                                  The Disneyland Hotel from that era is fascinating. And how amazing is the tram with the outward facing seats?
                                  Those trams were used by the parade department until the mid-'80s to carry performers backstage to step-off areas behind main street and small world. Then they were retired and replaced with the forward-facing yellow trams from the parking lot.

                                  Note that the drive units are actually aircraft tow vehicles and are still used today to pull floats for maintenance or on stage in case of a breakdown. They may have newer models but the fron grill plate is identical why I worked there 85-94.
                                  Last edited by LohPhat; 03-03-2012, 04:50 PM.

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Jan. 30, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                                    Originally posted by LohPhat View Post
                                    Those trams were used by the parade department until the mid-'80s to carry performers backstage to step-off areas behind main street and small world. Then they were retired and replaced with the forward-facing yellow trams from the parking lot.
                                    ...and then, those forward-facing yellow trams got put into use backstage to transport performers. I think they're still in use. I loved how fast they would drive them for us! Bet that's all been curtailed by lawyers by now.
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                                      There was one man who drove the hotel tram exclusively for years in the 70's and 80's. He had a real low voice. He was I wanna say older, and a bit portly in stature. Anybody remember who that might have been?
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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Jan. 20, 2012: Yesterland Hotel Tram

                                        Originally posted by LohPhat View Post
                                        Those trams were used by the parade department until the mid-'80s to carry performers backstage to step-off areas behind main street and small world. Then they were retired and replaced with the forward-facing yellow trams from the parking lot.

                                        Note that the drive units are actually aircraft tow vehicles and are still used today to pull floats for maintenance or on stage in case of a breakdown. They may have newer models but the fron grill plate is identical why I worked there 85-94.
                                        Originally posted by SpectroMan View Post
                                        ...and then, those forward-facing yellow trams got put into use backstage to transport performers. I think they're still in use. I loved how fast they would drive them for us! Bet that's all been curtailed by lawyers by now.
                                        Disney is still using the old 5-string Parking Lot trams and 3-string Hotel Tram trailers for backstage circulators, even if they've replaced the tractors with newer ones - look at any map service with satellite views, and you can spot them buzzing around.

                                        The old Yale, Clark and Harlan tractors from 1955 on could easily still be in service if they wanted to keep them running rather than replace them - they have mostly box-stock light truck parts, standard engines and transmissions, and (narrowed) standard axles, so as long as the chassis doesn't crack in two...

                                        Interesting Factoid that most people didn't realize was going on - the old 5-string parking tram trailers didn't track very precisely, the slower they went the more the rear trailers cut to the inside of the turn, and significantly faster than normal the trailers would swing wider than the tractor's turn.

                                        This could be very bad - a tram creeping along at a walk in a turn would cut the corner and could easily start clipping parked cars and curbs... It was not that unusual for the RT to call out "Driver, Speed Up!" or "Driver, Slow Down!" when they saw the clearance on one side starting to disappear. They were always back there for a reason.

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