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  • Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

    A half century after the opening of Disneyland, the Settler's Cabin is still there, but it's no longer burning.
    Link to Burning Settler's Cabin at Yesterland.

    What are your thoughts about the No-Longer-Burning Settler's Cabin?
    Werner Weiss
    Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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    Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

    OMG - THANK YOU ! ! ! ! People are always asking for pictures of the burning cabin. It is so sad to see it the way it is today after seeing the photos above on Yesterland.

    As for why the non-burning cabin. There is very little excuse for it in my mind. Perhaps a lack of appropriate maintenance, or poor management. But neither is a good excuse to my mind.

    Great update and question.

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    • #3
      Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

      I have mixed fellings on the issue. Safety wise it was kind of a scary thing. One certainly would not want a fire to break out on the island. But it's these little details about Disneyland that make it so very magical. If they didn't use actual fire they should at least spring for a similarly convincing effect.
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      • #4
        Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

        Disney World's is still on fire... I forgot about it.. lol
        (have not been on marktwain in ages..)

        Great article...

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        • #5
          Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

          Man do I miss that since I love the Train ride and I always thought it was so cool seeing a whole cabin on FIRE!!!
          But Now Disney being cheap about this which with all there money so have enough to go over there and Fix the darn thing. I hope they do something soon.
          PS Great article keep them coming!!!
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          • #6
            Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

            It isnt a matter of just "going over and fixing it" From what i was told, the gus pipes on the bottom of the rivers of america are corroded, so they would have to drain the entire river to replace them, and that is not exactly a small project beause the Mark Twain and Comumbia need to be dry docked, the canoes and rafts need to close and fantasmic needs to go dark, just so a few non essential pipes can be replaced.

            Don't get me wrong, the had better do it when the drain the river again in, say 5 years or so...

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            • #7
              Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

              Originally posted by DLDCALVR View Post
              It isnt a matter of just "going over and fixing it" From what i was told, the gus pipes on the bottom of the rivers of america are corroded, so they would have to drain the entire river to replace them, and that is not exactly a small project beause the Mark Twain and Comumbia need to be dry docked, the canoes and rafts need to close and fantasmic needs to go dark, just so a few non essential pipes can be replaced.
              Remember last time they drained the river to clean up fantasmic... why didn't they spend time then? heck, they probably will hope we forget and never fix it... then when they finally figure out the next change to the island remove the pipes.

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              • #8
                Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                Are we sure the cabin in WDW is still burning? I was just on the Belle a couple weeks ago, and I don't recall seeing the fire.

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                • #9
                  Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                  Same here. I was excited to see something working on the river and it was not turned on for me either. This was roughly Sept. 27.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                    I LOVE YESTERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ALWAYS HAVE!!!!

                    And to see why, are these awesome pictures of the flaiming cabin.
                    I wish they would bring back the Indian war canoes and the Keel Boats.

                    hmmmm.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                      And they never even got to use the story where it's a fire started by an explosion in the clandestine meth lab.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                        Heh... THAT would be an interesting story. Great update on that. It seems like it would be a good idea to get that back going again from a mark Twain, Colombia, and Canoes (though would you have time to look?) perspective.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                          Good job Werner. I saw in the second to last picture, I believe it was second to last, that the house now seems to be shrouded with trees all over it. Is that how it is today?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                            Originally posted by ralfrick View Post
                            And they never even got to use the story where it's a fire started by an explosion in the clandestine meth lab.

                            A bientot.
                            It could have been the heat lamps that set the BC bud ablaze. The old settler had himself a narcotic campfire.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                              Originally posted by danyoung View Post
                              Are we sure the cabin in WDW is still burning? I was just on the Belle a couple weeks ago, and I don't recall seeing the fire.
                              The picture of the in the Burning Settler's Cabin at WDW in my new Yesterland entry is from October 2004. I haven't been of the Liberty Belle or the WDW Railroad since then.

                              I haven't heard or read anything since then that would lead me to believe that the Burning Settler's Cabin at WDW is no longer burning. It would be easy for a guest to miss the Settler's Cabin at WDW entirely, if that guest is on the other side of the Liberty Belle looking back at Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

                              If anyone reading this thread has seen the Settler's Cabin at WDW recently, please post whether it is burning or not.
                              Werner Weiss
                              Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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                              • #16
                                Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                                Originally posted by Mr.DooDah View Post
                                I LOVE YESTERLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ALWAYS HAVE!!!!

                                And to see why, are these awesome pictures of the flaiming cabin.
                                I wish they would bring back the Indian war canoes and the Keel Boats.

                                hmmmm.
                                Thank you for the nice comment about Yesterland.

                                Disneyland still has a canoe ride. It's no longer called the Indian War Canoes; it's now called the Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes. The name change happened when Disneyland's Indian Village became Bear Country (now Critter Country).

                                Disneyland's Mike Fink Keelboats not only provided a different experience than the Mark Twain or Columbia, they also added to the "life" of the river for guests on Tom Sawyer Island and the lands that touch the Rivers of America.
                                Werner Weiss
                                Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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                                • #17
                                  Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                                  Originally posted by Disney Wrassler View Post
                                  Good job Werner. I saw in the second to last picture, I believe it was second to last, that the house now seems to be shrouded with trees all over it. Is that how it is today?
                                  With the Settler's Cabin no longer burning, there is no need for Disneyland to hire tree surgeons to cut back branches that are too close to the flames and to haul those branches off the island.

                                  That picture is from August 2004. My guess is that if anything has changed since that picture was taken, it would be that the trees have had two more years to grow, so that the Settler's is even more engulfed by trees.

                                  Perhaps someone who has seen it more recently can comment on how it is today.
                                  Werner Weiss
                                  Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                                    So, if the flame is still burning at the WDW cabin, what storyline do they attach to it?

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                                      Originally posted by Werner Weiss View Post
                                      Disneyland's Mike Fink Keelboats not only provided a different experience than the Mark Twain or Columbia, they also added to the "life" of the river for guests on Tom Sawyer Island and the lands that touch the Rivers of America.

                                      I really agree with you, Mr. Weiss regarding the Keelboats... The river does seem to be less busy and less full of life with out them... particularly on days the Columbia is in dock when there is several minutes with out anything passing by... I like to think of them a little bit like the PeopleMover in certain terms, but a little less drastic of an effect on the river's business...

                                      One could say that having a river that is not full of motion diverts your attention to the New Orleans side... Perhaps this is why TSI is not as well frequented? and management insists on a make over to make the area more popular?
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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Oct. 20, 2006: Burning Settler's Cabin

                                        I remember the burning cabin from my earliest trip to the park. Great to see the old pictures. Great update Werner!

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