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  • THAT made a difference

    Hopefully, this thread will generate some discussion, memories, and even some photos.

    The loss of which attraction, do you think, made the single biggest impact on your Disneyland experience being what it once was?
    Yes, attractions come and go, but which one do you feel the most? Why?

    I hate to sound like the broken record, but for me it was People Mover. As others have said on multiple occasions, it brought with it a kinestetic dynamic which was exciting and vibrant for the entire land. It was a great way to put your feet up and recharge your batteries, take some great aerial photos, get a little taste of other attractions, and long enough to savor.
    While I miss other attractions like America Sings, Adventure Thru Innerspace, and Circle-Vision, this one really made the single biggest difference to each of my visits since.
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  • #2
    I'm with you on the People Mover, but for me the single greatest loss was the old pack mules. I recently posted onanother blog about how this particular attraction was so immersive that it would both literally and figuratively transport you far from anything resembling 20th century Anaheim.

    The pace of the mules, the scenery and atmosphere, the reality that these were living, breathing animals and not animatronics, the leisurely ride was also perhaps the best value per ticket?

    Until recently one could still spot vestiges of the original trail from the upper deck of the Mark Twain, though I suspect that this latest round of construction has decimated even those scant traces of the last great frontier of Frontierland.
    First Visit at the age of 12, July 17, 1968.
    First Ride, The Disneyland and Santa Fe Railroad.
    BRING BACK THE PEOPLE MOVER!

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    • #3
      I have only the scarcest memories of the Pack Mules. I would love for there to be more attractions that immersive, that really let you forget that you're in the middle of a city in Southern California.
      Talk immersive! That one even had the smells of the old west.
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      • #4
        I'm going back and forth on the People Mover and the Mine Train. I never rode the pack mules (I was afraid of them). The Peoplemover gave Tomorrowland a dynamic vibe while the MTTNW was so immersive even if the ride pre-dated AA's.
        Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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        • #5
          One thing I feel about both People Mover and Mine Train (and the Pack Mules, for that matter) is even if you didn't ride them, they still enhanced your Disneyland experience, but enhancing the overall ambiance (ie. the immersion) of the place. All of them pulled you deeper into the story of each land.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by sbk1234 View Post
            One thing I feel about both People Mover and Mine Train (and the Pack Mules, for that matter) is even if you didn't ride them, they still enhanced your Disneyland experience, but enhancing the overall ambiance (ie. the immersion) of the place. All of them pulled you deeper into the story of each land.
            Similar to how the Jungle Cruise still does in Adventureland.
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            • #7
              There have been so many attractions that left that have changed the experience for me, but I'd have to lean towards the PeopleMover being a major one. That land just feels dead now. they need to bring in some new attractions to the Carousel Theater and the PM track.

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              • #8
                I think that's a major reason why people continue to miss the People Mover. It was so much more than simply a ride.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sbk1234 View Post
                  I think that's a major reason why people continue to miss the People Mover. It was so much more than simply a ride.
                  This is so true for the entire Tomorrowland 67 remake.

                  Although I didn't grow up in LA, I am old enough to have lived through the peak years of the Cold War, two Kennedy assassinations, the King murder, the civil unrest of the the mid and late 1960s as well as the peak escalation of the VietNam conflict, the Israeli Egypt wars, and so much more. Here's the thing, the entire thrust of T'Land '67 was that not only would humanity survive these chaotic and horrific times, but that humanity would thrive.

                  T'Land wasn't merely an area in a amusement, or theme park, it was a hopeful optimistic look at a future where all peoples were at peace with a shared prosperity, where science worked successfully to fight disease and famine, where great adventures awaited in both outer space as well as under the sea, and even in sub atomic space, where instant communication fostered a closeness between all humanity, and a deep appreciation of all that nature and mother earth have to offer preserved, and revered.

                  Compare that with the contemporary T'Land where every turn leads one to Star 'Wars' and not exploration, kids learning how to wield 'light sabres' to inflict the most severe bodily damage at the Jedi training events, cartoon blasting of intergalactic baddies, psychotic ultra-violent super 'heroes', storm troopers (a phrase developed during World War Two to describe some of the most vicious of all anti Semitic murderers), and one can make the case that the loss of Tomorrowland and its one time inherent optimism in its entirety has been the all time greatest loss that has impacted Walt's Disneyland the deepest.

                  I expect to get some heat from this post, and I don't really want to ruffle feathers here, but I have been realizing this as a reality for a very long time.
                  First Visit at the age of 12, July 17, 1968.
                  First Ride, The Disneyland and Santa Fe Railroad.
                  BRING BACK THE PEOPLE MOVER!

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                  • #10
                    I think you've phrased this wonderfully, ttrocc7007. I agree completely. You mentioned the turmoil of the 60s, and how the view of an optimistic future was hopeful. I think we're back to those times again which are filled with chaos and uncertainty. This was much of the allure and success behind Star Trek, as well. The idea that humanity will get past its problems and thrive. Once again, we need some futuristic optimism to inspire and give us hope. As much as I love Star Wars, I agree that it's not the most optimistic, peaceful setting.

                    But, like you said, I don't want to ruffle feathers here, either.

                    So, to get back on subject, I also miss the Skyway.
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                    • #11
                      Excellent post, ttrocc7007!
                      "With the acquisition of Marvel and now of Lucasfilm,
                      Disney may have finally found the grail. You don't need
                      imagination or art. All you need is a brand."

                      - Neil Gabler

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                      • #12
                        I didn't fully appreciate the impact of the Peoplemover until it was gone.

                        I'm going to put on that amazing music right now!

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                        • #13
                          I was shocked to go to Disneyland in the late 70s and realize the Mine Train was gone. That made the biggest difference to me. To a lesser extent, Adventure thru Inner Space, but I knew that was going to happen to make way for Star Tours. (Which, by the way, should have replaced Mission to Mars instead.)

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