[Chat] After HKDL, Which Disney Resort(s) Will Next Get Grizzly Gulch and/or Mystic Point?

[Ride Warrior]

As Disney has announced that Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point will remain exclusive rides at HKDL for five years, it is apparent that the company plans to bring versions of these two attractions to one or more other resorts. Which resort(s) do you think would get their own version of either one or both rides? A poll is up.

[HKDLFAN]

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Shame on Disney if they decide to pirate Grizzly Gulch or Mystic Point into another park.

[ShadowIDL]

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I think it would be difficult to clone these two rides into existing Disney Resorts. Since they are alternatives for Big Thunder Mountain and Haunted Mansion, it would be strange to have two similar E-tickets in a single resort. They may get rethemed rides with the same systems but not clones.

They still would appear in coming resorts however it may not be SHDL. Unless Disney want it to wait until 2019 to get its own version of Big Thunder Mountain and Haunted Mansion...

[dead_Mau5]

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:rules:
Apparently the Mouse has forgotten the definition of "original attraction".

[Ride Warrior]

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Shame on Disney if they decide to pirate Grizzly Gulch or Mystic Point into another park.

Don't understand the company's reasoning here. It should never have announced that GC and MP will remain uncloned for five years. After having gone with a dirth of attractions for years... and completely amiss of original e-tickets.. this is a hard slap in the face to it's guests and fans.

I think it would be difficult to clone these two rides into existing Disney Resorts. Since they are alternatives for Big Thunder Mountain and Haunted Mansion, it would be strange to have two similar E-tickets in a single resort. They may get rethemed rides with the same systems but not clones.

They still would appear in coming resorts however it may not be SHDL. Unless Disney want it to wait until 2019 to get its own version of Big Thunder Mountain and Haunted Mansion...

Agreed! All of the current parks already have similar atractions. For the foreseeable future, this pretty much leaves Shanghai as the only candidate that could inherit clones. But, the future park is being promoted as a compliment to Hong Kong Disneyland... not competition.

With this in mind, I don't even see the point of building another disneyland there... let alone cloning HKDL's few unique headliners that will be responsible for emphasizing it's own identy... if not placing the park in a league of it's own.

:rules:
Apparently the Mouse has forgotten the definition of "original attraction".

We fans need to let the company know when it makes sucky policy decisions... and this notion of cloning everything is definitely wrong on so many levels. We need to honor the memory of Roy E. Disney by continuing his dedicated efforts to Save Disney... hence creating, restoring and preserving the magic.. the happiness.. the innovation.. the memories.. the pride.

[Imagineer Scott]

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DAK- Grizzly Gulch at least

I don't see the big deal about using these in other parks. Odds are that people going to the parks in the states/Paris will never visit HKDL or TDL or

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

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........or??? don't leave us hanging like that. :lol:

[Imagineer Scott]

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........or??? don't leave us hanging like that. :lol:

Shanghai


I think I entered too early and was too lazy to fix... I'll still keep the suspe

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

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The suspe... (What was he going to type?)

[Imagineer Scott]

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The suspeciousness of... (tune in next week to find out)

[Ride Warrior]

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DAK- Grizzly Gulch at least

I don't see the big deal about using these in other parks. Odds are that people going to the parks in the states/Paris will never visit HKDL or TDL or

What a marvelous idea, Imagineer Scott! Although the Magic Kingdom would be a terrible choice for Grizzly Gulch, Animal Kingdom would be perfect. Just one thematic suggestion. Rather than a mine train similar to that of Expedition: Everest, I think that a train of Jeeps (like hunters would use) would be novel and one full-on blast! The engine noises would be amplified, and each Jeep vehicle (perhaps scaled down in size) would have disproportionately large tires. What I have in mind is a train of cars such as this...



Only, the color would be green, tan and/or brown rather than pink. Well... I don't know.. maybe pink would work in contrast with the terrain. )

[tasman]

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DAK- Grizzly Gulch at least

I don't see the big deal about using these in other parks. Odds are that people going to the parks in the states/Paris will never visit HKDL or TDL or

Won't happen IMO - the track layout for the Grizzly coaster is supposed to be based on that for Everest...would be too similar to have both in one park.

[Ride Warrior]

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Won't happen IMO - the track layout for the Grizzly coaster is supposed to be based on that for Everest...would be too similar to have both in one park.

I was thinking the same thing when I came up with a possible solution. We both posted at about the same time, and you didn't see the post which landed directly ahead of yours (mine being post #11), tasman. It wouldn't be any big deal varying the layout of the track, ie. "trail".

[josh_kslow]

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Disney should make Grizzly Gulch and Mystic Point exclusive to HKDL.

[Imagineer Scott]

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Won't happen IMO - the track layout for the Grizzly coaster is supposed to be based on that for Everest...would be too similar to have both in one park.

Looking at the concept art, not much looks similar to Everest.

Everest doesn't have as much of an outdoor section, only 1 (massive) AA, and no launch.

I don't know what's necesarily on the inside, but the main similarilties are the fact they're both roller coasters.

[Baloo]

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or maybe that line was used on purpose to make it known that Hong kong will have two original lands not found in any other Disney park fro 2014 to 2019 making it a special place

[tasman]

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Looking at the concept art, not much looks similar to Everest.

Everest doesn't have as much of an outdoor section, only 1 (massive) AA, and no launch.

I don't know what's necesarily on the inside, but the main similarilties are the fact they're both roller coasters.

I think two will share a similar track layout, at least that's what I've read. And I certainly notice similarities in that regard, at least from what little can be gleaned from the concept art. Grizzly Peak has the backwards section, plus a similar big drop.

Also not sure I agree with you about Everest not having an outdoor section...from my experience the ride is at least as much outdoors as indoors, possibly more outdoors in terms of total time.

Aside from that of course there will be differences with story, animatronics etc. But if they share a similar track, then those similarities I think would argue against the two being in the same park. All that being said, I guess no one can say for sure until we see what Grizzly Peak actually turns out to be and what course further expansion this park takes.

[Ice101]

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I think two will share a similar track layout, at least that's what I've read. And I certainly notice similarities in that regard, at least from what little can be gleaned from the concept art. Grizzly Peak has the backwards section, plus a similar big drop.

Also not sure I agree with you about Everest not having an outdoor section...from my experience the ride is at least as much outdoors as indoors, possibly more outdoors in terms of total time.

The rides will clearly be similar but the track layouts are almost nothing alike. From the Imagineers I talked to at D23 Expo they said that it is very unique to any other coaster they have built because usually their rides are very much so in a box (like Everest) but this one will go out and around and jump through the area. It is a completely original layout.

So yes it will have some similarities to Everest but it surely won't be to comparable to Everest.

I would agree that Expedition has an equal indoor section compared to outdoor. Without a doubt it feels like a majority of the action is indoor.

So in essence, the two rides are going to be worlds apart, but still too similar to build in one park. Its like building Everest and Big Thunder in the same park.

[Casey Jr]

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I would want to see an altered version of Mystic Manor possibly coming to DCA, themed to the san fransisco explorer's club, with a different story line and scenes.

[OC2Epcot]

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I would want to see an altered version of Mystic Manor possibly coming to DCA, themed to the san fransisco explorer's club, with a different story line and scenes.

That seems like a way to get one of them at the Disneyland Resort without having too similar of attractions in the same park.