[Question] Should Grizzly Gulch Expand?

[MANEATINGWREATH]

From what I've seen Grizzly Gulch looks like a phenomenal land, a perfect example of the modern perspective of the Wild West. With that being said, I have a good feeling that this land is going to be a raging success with the public, the perfect answer to Hong Kong's need of attractions and theming. With some extra cash flowing in and the upcoming opening of Shanghai Disneyland upon HKDL, would an expansion of Grizzly Gulch be possible? If you look close enough there is more than enough room for an expansion of the land, if not just an expansion of Adventureland. What would you like to see in an expansion of the Gulch other than some more water playgrounds? On a personal thought I'd love to see the addition of a new take on the Country Bear Jamboree and the park's first flume ride: Western River Expedition. The park doesn't and most likely never will have a POTC of their own, so I think WRE would finally be able to find its international home here. All the more reasoning to fly overseas and find the uniqueness of Hong Kong.

What would you like to see? An expansion of Grizzly Gulch? An expansion of Mystic Point? An expansion of Fantasyland? An expansion of Adventureland? You be the judge. All three of the original lands could use some work and additions, particularly Adventureland which currently has little to no adventure in it. Tomorrowland is getting Star Tours so that'll keep the land busy for a while but as for the rest...

[Burgower1994]

Re: Should Grizzly Gulch Expand?

This is what I think what should happen:

Fantasyland need 2 more dark rides. I would like The Little mermaid ride and Seven Dwarf Mine Train. If this happen you have 4 dark rides which are the 2 I just said and It a Small World and pooh. You also have Mickey Philarmagic and dumbo etc.

Tomorrowland- Is need of one more ride Star Tour would be great with buzz, Autopia ans Space Mountain this land could be complete.

Expansion- The land next to Grizzly Gulch should be mini land with the use of flume ride or something that has a e ticket feel. I would love glacier bay or a pirate ride. The reason i want another mini land because we already have 3 mini land why not 4. Adventure land I feel bad for because it need another ride but there no room

*The problem with a pirate ride or even a seven dwarf ride most likely they will be in Shanghai so I bet they wont be In HK but the government need to realized it need to have some clones.

[SirEdge]

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You Sir (or Madame), have nailed it!

In fact, I've been pretty much saying all those things the past few years.

Although, I am open to ANY kind of dark ride in Fantasyland. It seems quite obvious, especially given the popularity of the Winnie the Pooh ride, which in itself may be a function of Pooh rather than the fact that it's a dark ride, but who knows?

This is what I think what should happen:

Fantasyland need 2 more dark rides. I would like The Little mermaid ride and Seven Dwarf Mine Train. If this happen you have 4 dark rides which are the 2 I just said and It a Small World and pooh. You also have Mickey Philarmagic and dumbo etc.

Tomorrowland- Is need of one more ride Star Tour would be great with buzz, Autopia ans Space Mountain this land could be complete.

Expansion- The land next to Grizzly Gulch should be mini land with the use of flume ride or something that has a e ticket feel. I would love glacier bay or a pirate ride. The reason i want another mini land because we already have 3 mini land why not 4. Adventure land I feel bad for because it need another ride but there no room

*The problem with a pirate ride or even a seven dwarf ride most likely they will be in Shanghai so I bet they wont be In HK but the government need to realized it need to have some clones.

[Witches of Morva]

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ORDDU: Since the original plans called for a Little Mermaid attraction at this park, I would like to see them go ahead and build one.

ORWEN: And I like the idea of a Western River Expedition attraction next to Grizzly Mine Train.

[MANEATINGWREATH]

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Personally I wouldn't mind if Fantasyland was torn apart a bit to make it as big and expansive as WDW's new Fantasyland. Could you imagine? A Bavarian Village influence for the existing Fantasyland structures and then an entire expansion beyond the railroad tracks and into the space between Toy Story Land and Small World. There is room for another mini-land behind the railroad tracks but I'd prefer to see an expansion of Fantasyland instead. Adventureland does have a little bit of room for expansion but it'd call for the removal of Festival of the Lion King. Tarzan's Treehouse could be removed and replaced by another mountain for the park or maybe even a temple of sorts. The only problem is the island isn't very big and it'd be difficult transporting riders to the island. Can you imagine the queue for the rafts alone? They'd have to dig up the river and make a tunnel leading to the island if they wanted to do such a thing. Or they can make a really tall but well-themed bridge to get there?

The space south of Grizzly Gulch does have room for a mini-land which is where I'd like to see the Country Bears and WRE go in. If not that I'd like to see a pirate land like the one Randy Savage had designed earlier this year and even posted on this forum. But if Shanghai is getting something similar maybe HKDL should stay unique and go with an expansion of the Gulch or even a new mini-land. Glacier Bay has too similar of a land in nearby Ocean Park I believe so that's out of the question. DLP could have had a Jungle Cruise and the Country Bears but other theme parks in France had copied the ideas and used them in their attraction lineups.

[Ride Warrior]

Re: Should Grizzly Gulch Expand?

One ride is not enough. One way or another, Gizzly Gulch needs to be expanded.

[whaleatcoast]

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This is what I think what should happen:

Fantasyland need 2 more dark rides. I would like The Little mermaid ride and Seven Dwarf Mine Train. If this happen you have 4 dark rides which are the 2 I just said and It a Small World and pooh. You also have Mickey Philarmagic and dumbo etc.

Tomorrowland- Is need of one more ride Star Tour would be great with buzz, Autopia ans Space Mountain this land could be complete.

Expansion- The land next to Grizzly Gulch should be mini land with the use of flume ride or something that has a e ticket feel. I would love glacier bay or a pirate ride. The reason i want another mini land because we already have 3 mini land why not 4. Adventure land I feel bad for because it need another ride but there no room

*The problem with a pirate ride or even a seven dwarf ride most likely they will be in Shanghai so I bet they wont be In HK but the government need to realized it need to have some clones.

Fantasy Garden should be replaced by a dark ride because it used up a really large place for only meet and greet. And the area of the Haunted Hotel and the restaurant right beside it can be replaced by a Adventure Land dark ride like Indiana Jones or something else.

[Michalhassi]

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Yes I also agree with the expansion of Grizzly Gulch because it is mostly enjoyable place for every one. Many people spend time their with family or with some one. Its programs are good and famous among youngsters like water pool, road rider and much more for fun.

[Asa]

Re: Should Grizzly Gulch Expand?

There was a woman with a baby interviewed by Headline (newspaper) and she said there are many photo opps in the land but no rides for small children.

She has a point and maybe HKDL should consider putting something like Slinky Dog or Dumbo in the land. (Of course a different theme, probably related to bears or gold rush or geysers).

[keithlee83]

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Hkdl has too many attractions for kid already, please don't build rides for kids anymore like a kindergarten .

Hkdl need more exciting and unique attractions as GG,MM, no clone anymore!

But I do prefer they add slash mountain kind attraction with new theme in GG.

[Duyanh92]

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In my personal opinion, There are less houses in GG, It really hard to think this is a mine town. I think they should add a table serviced restaurant. I just feel like HKDL is lack of table serviced restaurant. There are only 2 in Main streets, the rest is snack + food courts in most of the land.

[Asa]

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A shooting gallery for smaller children would be nice.

[HKDLFAN]

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Given how popular the live shows at HKDL are, why not Country Bear Jamboree?

AA bears performing is a guaranteed hit for both adults and kids. AA seem to have a profound impact on HKDL's visitors - They just marvel at them. The reason why Astro Blasters has an inconsistent loading time is because most of the people stop for quite a while to look at AA Buzz. A CBJ would make sense to be the next expansion for GG rather than another high profile E-Ticket.

[Fultimate]

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I think they should build Splash Mountain or a bear-based version of Splash Mountain. Grizzly Gulch is too small!

[MANEATINGWREATH]

Re: Should Grizzly Gulch Expand?

Country Bear Jamboree and Western River Expedition would be perfect fits for Grizzly Gulch. The land wouldn't have to be renamed to Frontierland just because of the cowboys and Indians in Western River Expedition. It'd fit in perfectly with the land and has just the right amount of space for it. Both attractions are animatronic heavy, one of them is an ever-popular show, and the other is the water ride and Pirates stand-in that the park never had.

[Fultimate]

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I don't like Country Bear Jamboree. I think it's too old and not interesting enough. To me, this is a boring show. This park really needs other big E-tickets. I also think that, with Ratatouille Kitchen Calamity which is currently developped for Disneyland Paris, Walt Disney Imagineering will now focus on 3D-screen technology for its rides to compete with Universal's Transformers and Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man. Don't be surprise if that's not classic Disney rides which will come in the future, but brand new technological rides, themed after the Marvel universe.

[MANEATINGWREATH]

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But why copy Universal when Disney could be different from them and include physical set pieces and actual animatronics? Sitting on a moving seat and watching a movie that matches your movements is cool and all but honestly I'd much rather see Disney make innovations in actual physical attractions rather than screen rides. The Country Bear Jamboree may be an old show but it continues to prove popular in Florida and Tokyo and would more than likely be a smashing success in Hong Kong as another user has stated. If the Chinese audience is as captivated with audio animatronics as he says they are, then CBJ would be a perfect fit for Grizzly Gulch. Western River would be the next best thing.

[HKDLFAN]

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But why copy Universal when Disney could be different from them and include physical set pieces and actual animatronics? Sitting on a moving seat and watching a movie that matches your movements is cool and all but honestly I'd much rather see Disney make innovations in actual physical attractions rather than screen rides. The Country Bear Jamboree may be an old show but it continues to prove popular in Florida and Tokyo and would more than likely be a smashing success in Hong Kong as another user has stated. If the Chinese audience is as captivated with audio animatronics as he says they are, then CBJ would be a perfect fit for Grizzly Gulch. Western River would be the next best thing.

First we need to wait and see how Grizzly Gulch performs. I wouldn't say TSL has been a resounding success - it's the LEAST visited land and the main thrill ride there (RC Racer, which is a success in the Studios park in Paris) has an average wait time of 5-15 mins. The calmer Slinky Dog Spin gets far more people.

It's the same with Space Mountain. Though it has gotten popular now with the increase in visitors, it still gets fewer people than Pooh, IASW (daytime crowds), Autopia, AstroBlasters, Jungle Cruise and Slinky Dog Spin.

I doubt we will see another E-Ticket for Grizzly Gulch if the curse of thrill rides (being that they underperform and rides (trash) like Slinky Dog prosper) at HKDL extends into BGM. Either we'll see more stuff like Mystic Point (if it is a success) or simple carny trash like Slinky.

[MANEATINGWREATH]

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Interesting to hear that. Well maybe the park needs more carny rides...as long as they're themed correctly and appropriately and not out of place. How long are the waits for the teacups and carousel and Dumbo?

[HKDLFAN]

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Interesting to hear that. Well maybe the park needs more carny rides...as long as they're themed correctly and appropriately and not out of place. How long are the waits for the teacups and carousel and Dumbo?

I'm sure frequent visitors to the park like SirEdge or Timmy could back me up on this, the wait times are solid (peak days 40 mins, and 40 mins is considered ALOT at HKDL). Around evening the crowds thin down at the rides and head over to Main St. for the fireworks so the wait times are considerably lower after 6:30ish.