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  • My Shangai Park Centerpiece

    Just for fun, I put together a very rough photoshop of a centerpiece idea for the Shanghai park:

    It incorporates the following ideas:


    and




    So the idea is to have a centerpiece mountain with a masculine fortress at its base. The rockwork of the mountain takes the subtle shape of dragons, like DCA's Grizzly Peak. This is of course in deference to the dragon's place in Chinese mythology. The fortress chambers could be explored and the mountain itself would contain a super-E ticket thrill ride.

    Here it is:

    The matte paintings I shopped are from Prince Caspian (castle), Dylan Cole (waterfall), and Blizzard Entertainment (dragons).

    Thoughts?

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    Re: My Shangai Park Centerpiece

    I don't know, this doesn't seem very iconic to me. It would work well in a smaller version as part of a land, but for the centerpiece it has to be the castle alone, maybe even placed on a cliff.

    Imagine the entire Disneyland park built like it was partially lifted from the ground, with crevices between the lands and lots of waterfalls on the sides. Different kind of bridges connecting the areas- Great, now my imagination is going... I'll need to write this down.

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      ^

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        i like the approach to your vision Randy, I would also like to see the Shanghai park stray away from the Magic Kingdom mold. In another thread i had suggested even using the next Alice in Wonderland movie as a possible idea. The Castle in that movie has a majestic yet different approach to what we have seen done. The walkways leading to the entrance of the castle could be made to reflect the idea that you are entering a garden into wonderland. Lots of water in the area, the castle a bit elevated against a rocky landscape and a long rock bridge leading to the castle gate.

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        • #5
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          I can see them using the "film castle" - great way to promote the new films it will be in front of.
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            Originally posted by Baloo View Post
            In another thread i had suggested even using the next Alice in Wonderland movie as a possible idea. The Castle in that movie has a majestic yet different approach to what we have seen done. The walkways leading to the entrance of the castle could be made to reflect the idea that you are entering a garden into wonderland. Lots of water in the area, the castle a bit elevated against a rocky landscape and a long rock bridge leading to the castle gate.
            I think that would be very cool. Here is an image of that castle in cast people haven't seen it:

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            • #7
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              That would be worth the trip to see this.

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              • #8
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                I don't think SHDL could have a castle at that scale, or even something similar due to the park's proposed size. remember, SHDL is smaller than HKDL so just imagine how much Disney could fit in with that much space.

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                  Originally posted by hkdlfan View Post
                  I don't think SHDL could have a castle at that scale, or even something similar due to the park's proposed size. remember, SHDL is smaller than HKDL so just imagine how much Disney could fit in with that much space.
                  Well it also depends on if they decide to use it for something more than a prop...like a restaurant or a walkthrough attraction
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                    Originally posted by hkdlfan View Post
                    I don't think SHDL could have a castle at that scale, or even something similar due to the park's proposed size. remember, SHDL is smaller than HKDL so just imagine how much Disney could fit in with that much space.
                    you just want HKDL to not be the smallest DL anymore! hahaha! :P jk

                    yeah, as of how the size looks to be, I don't see how the castle will fit, but you never now... It may still turn out bigger, nothing is final.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
                      I think that would be very cool. Here is an image of that castle in cast people haven't seen it:

                      Now that is more like it. I could see them go in that direction for the next castle.

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                      • #12
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                        I would love to see them use that castle. The bridge entrance and the landscaping would look great. Once past the castle the area could be set-up to have a very intriguing garden. Instead of the carousel being the center point after passing the castle we see lots of lanterns and large roses and mushrooms and smack center of this the tea cups. Other pathways lead guests to the rest of fantasyland. These nicely landscaped paths lead guests to other fantastyland darkrides.

                        WDI should concentrate on building darkrides that would be unique to that park. Beauty and the beast, rapunzel, sleeping beauty and maybe even a Pixie Hollow walkthru that leads to neverland for Peter Pan attraction.

                        I think it would be interesting if the Shanghai fantasyland included more water than any of the other Magic kingdoms. Almost as if all these fairytales are in small Islands. Imagine the gateway being the castle Guest walk through the castle and over a bridge to the center point of fantsyland which would be the teacups and castle garden. Once on this small island pathways all around lead to the different sections of fantasyland which create a half circle around the castle garden. Similar to the layout for DAK and the tree of life or the hub in Disneyland.


                        Also imagine if that arch on the right side of the castle was a walkway. the views of the park would be incredible. The rockwork seen on the left could be thunder mountain which would create a barrier of the rest of adventureland.

                        Tomorrowland should be completely eliminated from the park and WDI should come up with a new land that would better fit the direction they have been going. Like i mentioned before, I would not mind a rebirth of sci-fi city incoporating ideas that they have been working on for tokyo. a land where they could use Wall-E and maybe even properties from their marvel collection. Space mountain would still be built but with a whole new storyline even TOT could be built in this new land but instead of using the same storyline of a hotel change it to fit the sci-fi theme
                        Last edited by Baloo; 11-29-2009, 12:12 PM.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by RandySavage View Post
                          ^
                          I not sure about the Ideal?
                          But it does make a great DESKTOP!
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                          • #14
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                            Well probably get DLP's castle in Shanghai. Remember, China is all about knockoffs.

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                            • #15
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                              I'm thinking Mulan's castle...
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                              • #16
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                                Originally posted by mark View Post
                                I'm thinking Mulan's castle...

                                But she was never a princess. :/

                                I'm still hoping for Rapunzel or Snow White.... or at least something original!

                                I love your photoshop of that, but it seems second park icon to me. Stil great nonetheless OP. :bow:

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                                • #17
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                                  Chinese audiences hated Disney's Mulan, from what Ive heard.

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                                  • #18
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                                    She wasn't a princess but who said the castle had to be for a princess?
                                    In the park announcement, there are supposed to be concessions to Chinese culture- so why not use Chinese folk tales instead of European ones?
                                    Mark

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                                    • #19
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                                      I think that they should have a towering castle perched on a hill with waterfalls' and a new color skeme. Perhaps have a tan walls and red tiled roofs. They could make the castle just Fantasy Castle and have it themed to all the princesses and princes. Just Brainstorming:thumbup:

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                                      • #20
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                                        I think that they should stick to classic disney film castles. But should not simply just make carbon copies of the castles.

                                        Beauty and the Beast castle would be an amazing centerpiece. But instead of just making the center piece of the park just a castle with a giftshop or restaurant in it an actually attraction. Have a beauty and the beast dark ride that takes you through the movie. Or place a theater in the castle where there is a stage production of beauty and the beast. and if that gets old than alternate the stage show to another stage show of a classic disney prince and princess.

                                        If they go with sleeping beauty or cinderella which are already located in asia... they should reinvent the castles but not DLP style but in a new way. Give people from all over asia a reason to go to the park.

                                        If they put a new castle in they could offer a regional promotion... like the castle pass or something where you get a special perk for visiting all the castles.....

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