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  • [Question] disneysea best disney park ever?

    Is Tokyo Disney Sea the best disney park ever?

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    Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

    In some ways, yes.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by disneyboi92 View Post
      Is Tokyo Disney Sea the best disney park ever?
      I would say that TDS is the best non-kingdom park built, while Disneyland is the best "Kingdom' Park.
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      • #4
        Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

        In terms of theming and attention to detail, yes. Overall, Disneyland still has the top spot in my opinion.
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        • #5
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          Depends if you count DisneySea as a "Disney Park." If you asked Jay Rasulo who invented "Disney Parks" he would say it's not because Disney doesn't own the place.

          I tend to agree. When I was at Tokyo DisneySea, it was painfully obvious that Disney was not in charge here, despite Disney characters, trademarks and recognizeable images everywhere you turn. But that's the extent of it.

          IMO, Tokyo DisneySea is an OLC Park with Disney characters in it. Especially when you consider that none of the lands are based on Disney-specific ideas (e.g. A Bug's Land) and have much more general and original themes to them.

          Disneyland Park is the best Disney-owned park I've ever been to, though my favorite is still Epcot.

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          • #6
            Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

            Originally posted by PeoplemoverMatt View Post
            IMO, Tokyo DisneySea is an OLC Park with Disney characters in it. Especially when you consider that none of the lands are based on Disney-specific ideas (e.g. A Bug's Land) and have much more general and original themes to them.
            Ah, but don't forget about Mermaid Lagoon. That's actually very Disney-specific.

            Personally, I love spending time at DisneySea, and would rather spend more time there than at any other park. But at the same time, it doesn't have as many rides and shows, and they don't get as much seasonal decoration (Christmas, Halloween) as the main Magic Kingdom parks. Nor do they have many Disney characters out.

            But DisneySea has the best atmosphere of any of the theme parks, making it fun to take your time and explore.

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            • #7
              Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

              Originally posted by PeoplemoverMatt View Post



              IMO, Tokyo DisneySea is an OLC Park with Disney characters in it. Especially when you consider that none of the lands are based on Disney-specific ideas (e.g. A Bug's Land) and have much more general and original themes to them.
              Well Mermaid Lagoon was based on the Little Mermaid movie and that play's a big part of the parks theme. Also while Arabian Coast is not just based on Aladdin, the movie is heavily referenced thoughout the land and in attractions like The Magic lamp Theatre and the 3 story Carousel.

              Disney Sea is one of the best parks, but is it the best, I'm not to sure I would rate it over Disneyland Paris and Disney's Animal Kingdom, which are personally my two favourite parks.
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              • #8
                Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

                Originally posted by PeoplemoverMatt View Post
                Depends if you count DisneySea as a "Disney Park." If you asked Jay Rasulo who invented "Disney Parks" he would say it's not because Disney doesn't own the place.

                I tend to agree. When I was at Tokyo DisneySea, it was painfully obvious that Disney was not in charge here, despite Disney characters, trademarks and recognizeable images everywhere you turn. But that's the extent of it.
                I totally disagree with you here. This park has "Disney" plastered all over it. It is quite an achievement for Disney's WDI and to say this park is not "disney" is actually quite laughable. Plus quoting what Jay Rassulo might say is even more laughable and puts your entire credibility here at risk.

                IMO, Tokyo DisneySea is an OLC Park with Disney characters in it. Especially when you consider that none of the lands are based on Disney-specific ideas (e.g. A Bug's Land) and have much more general and original themes to them.
                Another misguided opinion that only someone disconnected with Disney's films and products can come up with. You are on a roll.
                Mermaid Lagoon... was based on Little Mermaid. Aladdin was the inspiration for Arabian Coast. Mysterious Island is basically lifted from 20K. Lost River delta takes a cue from the Adventureland theme... New York and Med Harbor, while not related to Disney's films, brings the maritime theme front and center.. with a dash of elegance and nostagia that has always been a Disney "theme/ feel" in all of it's parks.. including the original DL.

                Disneyland Park is the best Disney-owned park I've ever been to, though my favorite is still Epcot.
                EPCOT? Yuk. That place is so stale and unfocused. At least the themes of TDS do fit together and work well. As for DL being the best DL park.. Yes, I agree, with DLP being a very good park as well.

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                • #9
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                  "IMO, Tokyo DisneySea is an OLC Park with Disney characters in it. Especially when you consider that none of the lands are based on Disney-specific ideas (e.g. A Bug's Land) and have much more general and original themes to them."

                  The statement highlights what has been the down fall of the entire Disney organization.

                  "Disney" used to mean a style of entertainment, a level of quality, a certain flair in showmanship.

                  Now they've sold people on the idea that "Disney" is something that contains Disney-brand characters - or a Disney price tag on the box. "Disney" is no longer a genre of entertainment, it's a merchandise brand name meant to hock wares of a single corporation.

                  Tokyo DisneySea is the most Disney park (save for Disneyland naturally) because it embodies the sense of joy, imagination and exploration that used to typify pre-brand Disney productions. It has nothing to do with characters or film tie-ins - it has to do with making places from the imagination spring to live.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Another Voice

                    Tokyo DisneySea is the MOST Disney park (save for Disneyland naturally) because it embodies the sense of joy, imagination and exploration that used to typify pre-brand Disney productions. It has nothing to do with characters or film tie-ins - it has to do with making places from the imagination spring to live.
                    Very well said Another Voice. It's nice to see I am not the only one being discriminating about quality in regards to the Disney parks.

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                    • #11
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                      There is certainly nothing less Disney about DisneySea than there is about any second gate. Why is DisneySea "less" Disney than Epcot or Animal Kingdom? DisneySea competes with Epcot as the finest second gate at any Disney Resort in the world. To say that it's not a "Disney" park is to say that ANY non-Magic Kingdom is not a Disney park. Are you saying that?
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                      • #12
                        Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

                        Disneysea is indeed an AAAAmazing theme park, i always tell my friends you could go there bindfolded, snap away with a camera and you'd still get amazing pictures. it really is that stunning.

                        But i will echo the thoughts of others in my top 10 favourite Disney parks in comes in at number 5...

                        Just goes to show that it takes more than Beauty to become the best.

                        (Worth noting i've not been to Hong Kong yet)

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                          Another misguided opinion that only someone disconnected with Disney's films and products can come up with. You are on a roll.
                          I don't think it's possible to have a misguided opinion... It may be your opinion that his opinion is misguided.

                          Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                          EPCOT? Yuk. That place is so stale and unfocused.

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                          • #14
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                            I wonder why no one ever asked about DisneySea at Long Beach CA. the real second park of Disneyland.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by MickeyMoose View Post
                              I wonder why no one ever asked about DisneySea at Long Beach CA. the real second park of Disneyland.
                              Because the state of California doesn't make up 7 ports of call by itself. Oh, sure, you can do a California version of American Waterfront, but that's about it. I see nothing in the state in which I was born in that would indicate a Lost River Delta kind of area or even a Porto Paradiso area. Silicon Valley may do nicely for a Port Discovery, but that's a stretch in it of itself.
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                              • #16
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                                I wonder why no one ever asked about DisneySea at Long Beach CA.
                                Becasue it brings up too painful memories of what could have been, and far too painful images to the horror of what we got (California Adventure).

                                The Port Disney project, had it been done as planned, would have rivialed Tokyo Disney Resort.

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                                • #17
                                  Re: disneysea best disney park ever?

                                  Originally posted by Another Voice View Post
                                  Becasue it brings up too painful memories of what could have been, and far too painful images to the horror of what we got (California Adventure).

                                  The Port Disney project, had it been done as planned, would have rivialed Tokyo Disney Resort.
                                  I kinda have to wonder what was the last major project that went according to plan for DL, we all know the Tomorrowland project sure didn't go the way they wanted to.

                                  That and it sure didn't help DCA was made with a "If it's good enough for the Six Flags crowd, it's good enough for us." mindset.

                                  As for Disneysea being the best park, unfortuntly for me I can't say that just yet since I haven't been there yet. However I will certainly say that just by pictures and video alone, the park is absolutly stunning.

                                  But for the moment, my favorite parks are Disneyland and DLP.
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                                  • #18
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                                    All of the great plans from 'The Disney Decade' were all based on the assumption that Euro Disney would be pouring billions of dollars into Disney. And there was also an assumption that ABC won't be sucking in billions and billions in losses. Or that Disney would have to shell out billions and billions of dollars to buy a company to replace a shuttered Feature Animation unit at the very heart of the company.

                                    In short, any plans Disney had for its theme parks and attractions were destroyed by other events in the company.


                                    And a bad management too.

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                                    • #19
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                                      I think bad management more than anything is what has lowered the quality at some of the resorts. Not until they have upper management that truly cares for the product and respects the history of the company in regards to the theme parks' operation, will we see improvement in the overall quality. Seems to me DLR is ahead of WDW in this regard.

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                                      • #20
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                                        It's actually a lot more cynical than that. Disneyland has a huge local population base to draw from. Disney knew they had lost most of that during The Dark Decades, the push to 'Resort' and the insulting-to-Californians California Adventure. The '50th Birthday' was an effort to get that local audience back with a minimum of expense. Selling freshly painted memories is a lot cheaper than building new rides. And for the most part it worked...for a while. The core "quality" at Disneyland hasn't really changed all that much (eat at 'The Blue Bayou' and you'll see) and attendance is falling again.

                                        Walt Disney World is different. They have to sell a five thousand dollar vacation to Joe Sixpack. That was pretty easy to do when you could put twice your home's value on a credit card and run it up to the limit. Then silly ideas like free churros or discounted all-you-can-snog dining programs worked. But these days Disney will have to deeply "wow" people to get them to drop so much money on a vacation.

                                        That's going to take a lot of investment on Disney's part. The Company hasn't shown any desire to do that. Instead they've taken to trying to squeeze more pennies out of everyone's wallet - from cheap gimmicks like 'PhotoPass' to crass moneygrabs like 'Pirates and Princesses' by-another-ticket-to-the-same-park-you-just-visited scams.

                                        It will be interesting to see what happens.

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