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  • honoraryhatter
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    Originally posted by DuffyDad View Post
    And on the subject of park food, I have a new low: they cancelled one of the two vegetarian options at Disneyland (that was actually a real meal, not the kind of substitution/hold the meat (but pay for it anyway)/settle for salad game that leaves vegetarians feeling either ingracious or hungry). For a company primarily based on the adoration/humanization of animal characters, to have virtually no options for people who don't eat dead animals is a travesty. It feels wrong on many levels, always has. Now worse. Honestly, this single slap in the face makes me feel a little better about my AP expiring tomorrow. It's absolutely disgusting. No one should be made to feel that they are a troublesome bother at TDR, and certainly not when all they want is not to eat roast Donald, Clara, Clarabelle, or Cleo. But that's the way it is all the time and this is something I won't miss at all.
    As a vegetarian who lived in Japan, I completely understand where you're coming from. Unfortunately, this news doesn't surprise me too much. I haven't been to TDR or Japan, for that matter, in ages, but I usually had trouble finding a vegetarian meal that would sustain me asides from Japan's delicious tofu <3 (hold the fish flakes). If I ate a meal at the parks, it was either a salad or a hold the meat curry, which I didn't mind really mind. Otherwise, I would snack on flavored popcorn or pudding, and I would eat something when I returned to my home at that time.

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  • JoeInJpn
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    Since the time of the old system, Guests staying at Disney-brand hotels have been able to reserve lunch and dinner shows up to one month prior to check-in date. This could be done via online or phone. Guests not staying at Disney Hotels could only do same-day reservations.

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  • Fukai
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    Malin, you're incorrect about this. Until 2009 you could walk up to the podium at either the Diamond Horseshoe or Tahitian Terrace and make a reservation for that day. This is the first year that ALL reservations are only available online, and only in a Japanese-language only website.

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  • Malin
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    Originally posted by DuffyDad View Post
    Oops, maybe I wasn't clear. The new thing is that you cannot reserve on-site anymore at any time, but ONLY online. I think it started in spring; whenever it was, there was a lot of notice about it.

    And perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but I really don't think so...when the old reservation system was in place, I remember that Guests could NOT reserve in advance. I'm pretty sure I'm right, cos I had wanted to reserve Polynesian Terrace for my first day at Disneyland, and I think I even called Guest Relations. I remember being told that you could NOT reserve by phone nor online, but only in the park on the day of your visit at that time. I remember being frustrated about it, at the time, and a little anxious. I could be wrong, but since I actually remember doing it myself (just last December), I really feel pretty confident about this.
    This is where we need someone like JoeInJpn to step in, I'm not actually 100 percent sure I'm right now. But I always seem to recall oversea's visitors having restrictions on booking for the show. I also was not aware reservations had stopped inside the park either.

    And on the subject of park food, I have a new low: they cancelled one of the two vegetarian options at Disneyland (that was actually a real meal, not the kind of substitution/hold the meat (but pay for it anyway)/settle for salad game that leaves vegetarians feeling either ingracious or hungry).
    Thats actually tough, have you considered questioning it over at Guest Relations.

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  • DuffyDaisuki
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    Originally posted by Malin View Post
    If you arrive first thing in the morning yes its always been possible that the Resort might have one or two places free to fit you in, but most of the time these seats are fully booked way in advance, so its certainly not a new thing.
    Oops, maybe I wasn't clear. The new thing is that you cannot reserve on-site anymore at any time, but ONLY online. I think it started in spring; whenever it was, there was a lot of notice about it.

    And perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but I really don't think so...when the old reservation system was in place, I remember that Guests could NOT reserve in advance. I'm pretty sure I'm right, cos I had wanted to reserve Polynesian Terrace for my first day at Disneyland, and I think I even called Guest Relations. I remember being told that you could NOT reserve by phone nor online, but only in the park on the day of your visit at that time. I remember being frustrated about it, at the time, and a little anxious. I could be wrong, but since I actually remember doing it myself (just last December), I really feel pretty confident about this.

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  • Malin
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    No, it is a new thing. Last year, you could simply go anytime (though, realistically, in the morning^^) and reserve on-site in the park. I know because the first time I ever visited Disneyland, I went to the Polynesian Terrace dinner show and we booked that morning. I can't remember when it changed...maybe spring? But I haven't been again.
    But before the website was introduced it was a phone number that was only available in Japanese. As for booking reservations inside the park, up until the website was launch that was the only way you could see the show, if availability was free. So I really don't see a difference in restrictions on this !
    Last edited by Malin; 12-12-2009, 07:46 AM.

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  • DuffyDaisuki
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    Originally posted by Malin View Post
    Thats hardly a new concept for this year, as its been the case ever since I can remember. The Management at the park don't see us as big spenders and instead prefer to look after the other 99% of the population that visit far more often and spend more money on merchandise. Atleast this attitude is not passed on to the thousands of hourly Cast Members who treat all Guest the same way.

    Another low point of the year, although this may of happened last year, is that no more Mickey shaped hamburgers are being sold.
    No, it is a new thing. Last year, you could simply go anytime (though, realistically, in the morning^^) and reserve on-site in the park. I know because the first time I ever visited Disneyland, I went to the Polynesian Terrace dinner show and we booked that morning. I can't remember when it changed...maybe spring? But I haven't been again.

    And on the subject of park food, I have a new low: they cancelled one of the two vegetarian options at Disneyland (that was actually a real meal, not the kind of substitution/hold the meat (but pay for it anyway)/settle for salad game that leaves vegetarians feeling either ingracious or hungry). For a company primarily based on the adoration/humanization of animal characters, to have virtually no options for people who don't eat dead animals is a travesty. It feels wrong on many levels, always has. Now worse. Honestly, this single slap in the face makes me feel a little better about my AP expiring tomorrow. It's absolutely disgusting. No one should be made to feel that they are a troublesome bother at TDR, and certainly not when all they want is not to eat roast Donald, Clara, Clarabelle, or Cleo. But that's the way it is all the time and this is something I won't miss at all.

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  • Malin
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    Originally posted by Fukai View Post
    As a low point, I would mention the fact that reservations for seating at the Diamond Horseshoe and Tahitian Terrace can now only be made online in advance, and that the website is only in Japanese, thereby excluding just about everyone else in the world.
    That sucks!
    Thats hardly a new concept for this year, as its been the case ever since I can remember. The Management at the park don't see us as big spenders and instead prefer to look after the other 99% of the population that visit far more often and spend more money on merchandise. Atleast this attitude is not passed on to the thousands of hourly Cast Members who treat all Guest the same way.

    Another low point of the year, although this may of happened last year, is that no more Mickey shaped hamburgers are being sold.

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  • DreamSweetsLove
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    Originally posted by JoeInJpn View Post
    Not saying that it happens at TDR, but the use of shills (さくら - sakura) is very common in Japan. People are planted by the company at store or product openings in order to entice others to "see what's going on."
    Sounds like a fun temp job! Do they get to shop for the product they are advertising since they are already in line?

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  • JoeInJpn
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    Originally posted by Roger55 View Post
    It is almost as if there exists a "If there is no need to wait for something, it must not be that good" mentality.
    Not saying that it happens at TDR, but the use of shills (さくら - sakura) is very common in Japan. People are planted by the company at store or product openings in order to entice others to "see what's going on."

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  • DreamSweetsLove
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    It' true! DuffyDad and I were actually talking about lines today and how if we see a line how we will get in line first and then find out what it's for haha.

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  • Roger55
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    Originally posted by tasman View Post
    ^^ Thanks Ichigopara. I don't know exactly when I will make it to TDR but definitely hope to do so within the next few years. Unfortunate about the lottery though...I wish it was at least first come / first serve basis so that there would be some certainty. Minor gripe though...
    The concept of first come/first serve provides some level of "certainty" is exactly the reason why they went to the lottery system.

    If you haven't experienced the Japanese Guests and their sheer ability and determination to out wait, out last, out will other Guests in order to be able to watch a show/parade, ride a popular attraction, get coveted dining reservations, buy popcorn or popular snack, etc., you will not be able to comprehend the reason why OLC needs to put what we in the west would consider "extreme measures" in place to control the Guests. It really is something that you need to witness to believe.

    20 minute wait for popcorn, waiting 3-4 hours for a show or parade; waiting over 3 hours in standby for an attraction; waiting in line 40 minutes just to get a Fast Pass; lining up outside the gates 2-3 hours before park opening on ordinary days; these are all typical occurrences at TDR most every day. It is almost as if there exists a "If there is no need to wait for something, it must not be that good" mentality.

    If you think having first come/first serve would benefit you because you can get there earlier or out wait most everyone for a sure chance to see something, you are in for a big surprised!:lol:

    Now having said that, there are things like BBB that in my observations and opinion, don't require the lottery system. However, due to the desire to get rid of the Disney "manias" (maniacal fans)that camp out for hours just to get the prime seating locations, OLC felt it necessary to implement the lottery system used previously only for the special stage shows.

    The stage shows DO require some sort of distribution system because the demand far out numbers the available seats. Right before the lottery system was first put in place, it was a athletic competition to see who could run the fastest from the main entrance at opening, to go get in the first come/first serve line for ticket distribution. That was not only chaotic, but very dangerous.

    I would have solved the BBB situation differently. I would have done distribution of seats based on random assignments of location. Once you used your park ticket to get a seat, you could not get another showing that same day. And since the assignment would be random as far as location, that would eliminate the need to line up and wait for hours to get the best seats in the house. This type of approach would eliminate the Disney "mania" from monopolizing the best seats for all the shows and eliminate the lines from forming hours before a performance.

    OLC has some unique "challenges" daily in TDR that the US parks rarely have to deal with. I hope many of you who haven't already experienced TDR and its "mania" Guests, get to see it with your own eyes someday. It is truely an eye opening and unique experience.

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  • tasman
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    ^^ Thanks Ichigopara. I don't know exactly when I will make it to TDR but definitely hope to do so within the next few years. Unfortunate about the lottery though...I wish it was at least first come / first serve basis so that there would be some certainty. Minor gripe though...

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  • DreamSweetsLove
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    Originally posted by tasman View Post
    Without having gone to TDR...I was mightily impressed by how they handled the theming of DisneySea's Turtle Talk.



    Could someone please explain how the lottery system works? How does one get to be in the lottery?
    Hi Tasman!
    This is how the lottery works. All you need is your ticket that you used to enter the park. You go to the location with the lottery machines which will have the different show times you can try for on a touch screen in either Japanese or English. You can only try once a day for one show. If you are in a group you can try together as a group. You pick your time then scan your ticket(s) in the machine then press the start button. Then you either win and it will print you a ticket with your assigned time and seating or you lose for that day.

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  • tasman
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    Without having gone to TDR...I was mightily impressed by how they handled the theming of DisneySea's Turtle Talk.

    Originally posted by lighttragic View Post
    Low new lottery procedures for big band beat and one mans dream
    Could someone please explain how the lottery system works? How does one get to be in the lottery?

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  • gurgi
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    Originally posted by JoeInJpn View Post
    Gurgi, that attraction closed three-and-a-half years ago on April 5th, 2006.
    Man, time goes by so fast! It doesn't seem like it was that long ago, which is why I thought it happened last year even.

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  • DreamSweetsLove
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    The highlights for me were Mickey's Dream Company, Club Monsters Inc. and especially Mysterious Masquerade!! :love:

    Low point for me was saying goodbye to Mickey Mouse Revue and the Jolley Trolley. :crybye: No Christmas castle show was also pretty bad.

    Other good points included th opening of Monsters Inc which became one of our fave attractions and it was nice that Candlelight Reflections had it's finale this year! Almost forgot the great BBB! mini show! It was so nice!!

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  • JoeInJpn
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    Originally posted by DuffyDad View Post
    Thanks, Joe. I just knew it was before I went (but while I was in Japan) and I assumed Gurgi was right, cos he usually is. Next time, I'll look it up before I post.:blush:
    Yes, I agree, Gurgi is right on usually. :-) I just wanted to clarify things since it was posted as a question. I understand time does seem to fly. As you said, the 25th Anniversary ended just over 6 months ago. And just one year before that was the last "Cinderellabration" performance. An event I usually relate to the Parks 20th Anniversary. Hehehe.

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  • Fukai
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    As a low point, I would mention the fact that reservations for seating at the Diamond Horseshoe and Tahitian Terrace can now only be made online in advance, and that the website is only in Japanese, thereby excluding just about everyone else in the world.
    That sucks!

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  • DuffyDaisuki
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    Originally posted by JoeInJpn View Post
    Gurgi, that attraction closed three-and-a-half years ago on April 5th, 2006.
    Thanks, Joe. I just knew it was before I went (but while I was in Japan) and I assumed Gurgi was right, cos he usually is. Next time, I'll look it up before I post.:blush:

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