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    TDS's Toyville Trolley Park is one of the most fancifully designed areas in the park. The atmosphere is pure awesomness. However, with only one attraction (Toy Story Mania), I feel the area is lacking in kenetic activity, and the elements of fun and varety. Therefore, one solution might be to phase in each of the three rides from DLP's Toy Story Land. This would require relatively little space (as compared to major attractions), they would provide feasible, budget-friendly maintenance, improve ride capacity, plus (most importantly) produce fun galore foradults, kids, families, and friends.








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    i like it
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      I'm not exactly sure how they'd fit into a realistic Cony Island setting and how a giant parachute drop and orange hot wheels track would look sc the sky over immigration-era New York City. Now if there was some way to get them inside a covered area which was not an eyesore and fit in with the theming correctly, then I'd say go for it. But if not I'd say don't go for it.

      HKDL and WDS alike are both missing out on not including TSMM into their respective Toy Story Lands. DCA's TSMM has a fantastic exit queue featuring a small living room where an unseen child has left behind an opened play set box. What is on the front of the box? "Toy Story Midway Mania Play Set." Imagine if one of these boxes was ripped open in one side and overturned in the grass in Andy's backyard. Thus you get a perfect facade and theme for a TSMM to be incorporated into WDS and HKDL. You'd go inside the giant play set box and walk through an indoor queue similar to TDS' and DHS'.
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      • #4
        Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

        NO!!!!!! I hated that place when I went to Paris and they already do have a kids area, plus, RC Racer and the Green Army Men ride wont even fit....(maybe Slinky will)
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        • #5
          Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

          Originally posted by MrsMonroe View Post
          i like it
          Thanx Mrs.Monroe. You have a good eye for fun theme park attraction-based areas. :thumbup:

          Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
          I'm not exactly sure how they'd fit into a realistic Cony Island setting and how a giant parachute drop and orange hot wheels track would look sc the sky over immigration-era New York City. Now if there was some way to get them inside a covered area which was not an eyesore and fit in with the theming correctly, then I'd say go for it. But if not I'd say don't go for it..
          Let the New York immigrants have some new fun for a change! You might be on to something regarding your indoor housing of the three DLP clones: think ealy New York themed version of Ariel's Grotto. An outdoor alternative might be to place the rides behind the buildings.

          Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
          HKDL and WDS alike are both missing out on not including TSMM into their respective Toy Story Lands. DCA's TSMM has a fantastic exit queue featuring a small living room where an unseen child has left behind an opened play set box. What is on the front of the box? "Toy Story Midway Mania Play Set." Imagine if one of these boxes was ripped open in one side and overturned in the grass in Andy's backyard. Thus you get a perfect facade and theme for a TSMM to be incorporated into WDS and HKDL. You'd go inside the giant play set box and walk through an indoor queue similar to TDS' and DHS'.
          WDS and HKDL are seriously blowing it in their failure to include the three rides. Love your idea for an accompanying indoor queue at both parks. Pretty good forward thinking innovation.

          Originally posted by Prometheus View Post
          NO!!!!!! I hated that place when I went to Paris and they already do have a kids area, plus, RC Racer and the Green Army Men ride wont even fit....(maybe Slinky will)
          Slinky Dog would definitely fit. Wanna know why? 'Cause he's so doggone slinky!
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            Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

            Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
            I'm not exactly sure how they'd fit into a realistic Cony Island setting and how a giant parachute drop and orange hot wheels track would look sc the sky over immigration-era New York City. Now if there was some way to get them inside a covered area which was not an eyesore and fit in with the theming correctly, then I'd say go for it. But if not I'd say don't go for it.

            HKDL and WDS alike are both missing out on not including TSMM into their respective Toy Story Lands. DCA's TSMM has a fantastic exit queue featuring a small living room where an unseen child has left behind an opened play set box. What is on the front of the box? "Toy Story Midway Mania Play Set." Imagine if one of these boxes was ripped open in one side and overturned in the grass in Andy's backyard. Thus you get a perfect facade and theme for a TSMM to be incorporated into WDS and HKDL. You'd go inside the giant play set box and walk through an indoor queue similar to TDS' and DHS'.
            many seaside piers, including Coney Island had parachute drops

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parachute_Jump
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              Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

              Originally posted by MrsMonroe View Post
              many seaside piers, including Coney Island had parachute drops

              Parachute Jump - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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                Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                My only concern would be the appearance of the two taller rides on the fanciful skyline of TDS. If they add some more amusement attractions I'd actually like to see a roller coaster or at least a Ferris Wheel. But even then those'd be pushing it for TDS.
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                • #9
                  Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                  I think a few carnival rides would fit in perfectly with the coney Island feel of the place. The theming could change a bit so that it does not include so many large colorful toy set pieces. Some nice victorian structures as queues and elaborate fencing and it would work.

                  The problem is the height and look of the drop tower and RC racer, instead i would replace those two rides with a swing ride similar to the silly symphony ride at DCA. WDI had several concept for re-theming that ride when they were working on DCA remodel project.
                  another ride that would fit well is a wooden coaster. Something that would not be too tall to affect the rest of the park but be fun enough for families with children to enjoy

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                    Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                    Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
                    My only concern would be the appearance of the two taller rides on the fanciful skyline of TDS. If they add some more amusement attractions I'd actually like to see a roller coaster or at least a Ferris Wheel. But even then those'd be pushing it for TDS.
                    A Toy Story themed Farris Wheel would be super! I think I'll refer to it as a Wheezee Wheel. How about a Woody Coaster?!

                    Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                    I think a few carnival rides would fit in perfectly with the coney Island feel of the place. The theming could change a bit so that it does not include so many large colorful toy set pieces. Some nice victorian structures as queues and elaborate fencing and it would work.

                    The problem is the height and look of the drop tower and RC racer, instead i would replace those two rides with a swing ride similar to the silly symphony ride at DCA. WDI had several concept for re-theming that ride when they were working on DCA remodel project.
                    another ride that would fit well is a wooden coaster. Something that would not be too tall to affect the rest of the park but be fun enough for families with children to enjoy
                    Again, a Woody Coaster would be a great themed ride, cowboy! A swing ride would be great fun, along with the fact that it would work well aesthetically as a nice addition to the atmosphere.
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                      Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                      A wheel, carousel, and coaster would work the best in the area if you ask me, just as long as their presence isn't a monstrous sight when compared to the rest of stunning DisneySea. Remember that DisneySea is more of a beautiful new world than a theme park and keep in mind how the original Paradise Pier looked at the dead end of what should have been a traditionally beautiful Disney theme park.
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                        Similar rides to Slinky and the parachute drop already exist in Mermaid Lagoon.

                        For those who have not been to TDS, check out Scuttle's Scooters and Jumpin' Jellyfish.

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                        Putting them into Toyville Trolley Park would be redundant.

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                          Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                          Seeing the photos of the queue, it does give the impression that they could expand more in the back, and I wouldn't mind seeing a few small attractions (read: amusements that fit the land and don't interfere with the sight lines)....I mean the Tower of Terror needs to be alone and not next to a parachute drop or rollercoaster.

                          I like the slinky dog actually, but put it under a roof and have the roof and coloring match the theme of the rest of that area.
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                            Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                            Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
                            A wheel, carousel, and coaster would work the best in the area if you ask me, just as long as their presence isn't a monstrous sight when compared to the rest of stunning DisneySea. Remember that DisneySea is more of a beautiful new world than a theme park and keep in mind how the original Paradise Pier looked at the dead end of what should have been a traditionally beautiful Disney theme park.
                            One thing's for sure, there are no Ferris Wheels at TDS yet. It could use one.

                            Originally posted by Roger55 View Post
                            Similar rides to Slinky and the parachute drop already exist in Mermaid Lagoon.

                            For those who have not been to TDS, check out Scuttle's Scooters and Jumpin' Jellyfish.

                            Scuttle's Scooters | Tokyo DisneySea

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                            Putting them into Toyville Trolley Park would be redundant.
                            I've always wanted to experience Ariel's area. the Imgineers went all out designing it.

                            Originally posted by ChrisFL View Post
                            Seeing the photos of the queue, it does give the impression that they could expand more in the back, and I wouldn't mind seeing a few small attractions (read: amusements that fit the land and don't interfere with the sight lines)....I mean the Tower of Terror needs to be alone and not next to a parachute drop or rollercoaster.

                            I like the slinky dog actually, but put it under a roof and have the roof and coloring match the theme of the rest of that area.
                            A slinky dog ride beneath it's own customized roof would be quite classy. Thanks for relating this good idea Chris. Perhaps somebody at WDC will follow our conversation. You just never know.
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                              Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                              I figured originally that they would make the area a bit bigger- they only utilized a small part of the parking lot when they built out the Toyville area- there is some space behind the area, but it really isn't as big an expansion area as some of the ideas proposed here. I don't know if you've been to TDS, but there isn't much available room there.

                              I think some of the rides developed for DLP and HKDL in the Toy Story areas are a little too corny to be placed in TDS which is a much more sophisticated and elegant park.

                              There is a bigger plot of land available between the Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta that could incorporate a whole new land to the park.

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                                Agreed. At this point I'm beginning to think that TSMM is enough for Toyville. It just works and a giant RC pipe may ruin that along with a giant wheel or coaster. A carousel would work but keep in mind that Arabian Coast already has one and any appropriate carousel for Toyville would have already been utilized in Fantasyland already.
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                                  Originally posted by jedimaster7313 View Post
                                  I figured originally that they would make the area a bit bigger- they only utilized a small part of the parking lot when they built out the Toyville area- there is some space behind the area, but it really isn't as big an expansion area as some of the ideas proposed here. I don't know if you've been to TDS, but there isn't much available room there..
                                  Thanks for the avilable land appraisal which I didn't have. I'd be happy if Disney used area inside Toyville and that which is next to it as best they can.



                                  Originally posted by jedimaster7313 View Post
                                  I think some of the rides developed for DLP and HKDL in the Toy Story areas are a little too corny to be placed in TDS which is a much more sophisticated and elegant park..
                                  This is Toy Story....it's not supposed to be completely dignified. Let's hope they would compromise and shoot for a more sophisticated cornyness. )


                                  Originally posted by jedimaster7313 View Post
                                  There is a bigger plot of land available between the Arabian Coast and Lost River Delta that could incorporate a whole new land to the park.
                                  Perhaps a port based on Finding Nemo or Atlantis: The Lost Empire would be better themed land use potentials for this larger plot. It just wouldn't make much since to me to have two "lands or ports" based on the same themed movie property..

                                  Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
                                  Agreed. At this point I'm beginning to think that TSMM is enough for Toyville. It just works and a giant RC pipe may ruin that along with a giant wheel or coaster. A carousel would work but keep in mind that Arabian Coast already has one and any appropriate carousel for Toyville would have already been utilized in Fantasyland already.
                                  I still like the idea of merging some or all of the Toy Story Land rides into Toyville, even if it means expanding some. But, if a departure was the only thing in the cards, I would like to see a uniquely themed Ferris Wheel as Disney sea doesn't have one.
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                                    Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                                    It doesn't necessarily need a wheel but it is your idea so okay.

                                    Atlantis (not based on the movie) would be a perfect fit for the empty space next door to the Lost River Delta (to Indy's right-hand side). It'd easily fit in with the lost civilization theme of the neighboring Delta and the whole discovery theme of nearby Port Discovery. I'd recommend either that or one of these two lands: City by the Bay or Primeval Seas. City by the Bay would obviously be a representation of San Francisco in the Gold Rush-era with plenty of excitement and adventure along with unique restaurants (including a Chinese restaurant and soda fountain). Or the Primeval Seas could be a representation of the swampy oceans of earth during the age of the dinosaurs. Think of Dinoland, USA done RIGHT with a feel of mystery, the exotic, and pure prehistoric adventure. Can you imagine how awesome that'd be? River rapids through dense dinosaur-populated jungles, encounters with dinosaurs, etc. But then there's always the fact that Universal Studios Japan has Jurassic Park already (right?).
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: Your Thoughts On Merging DLPs Toy Story Rides Into Disney Sea's Toyville Area?

                                      There is a bit more land they could have used, or they may actually be saving for another future expansion- but not on the scale of a whole boardwalk.

                                      From the first press release & photos of the concept art- I always hoped that they would have built a small lake or some waterway in front of the attraction itself that you would have had to cross a small bridge to go over to give it the appearance that you were going over to a boardwalk - it would have also been really neat at night with the reflections of the lights over the water and it would still be keeping in the whole sea theme.

                                      They could still possibly add possibly 2 more smaller attractions, or even a restaurant or additional shops, but it would be behind what is there now. A ferris wheel could be neat, since it doesn't take up much space- but it would probably look too out of place being so close to the Hightower Hotel.

                                      I was in TDS this past November, but can't come up with a full assessment till I see it in person later this year. Even with all the photos & posts I've seen- its still different when you are there in person.

                                      For those who haven't been there- the Toy Story area that just opened was built on a portion of a parking lot outside the current berm of the park- but that is fairly close to the resort liner track, so there really isn't very much more they could have done in the area- but they still could have built it out a bit more since they do have very heavy crowds in the parks to begin with. But the OLC does know what they are doing.

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                                        Originally posted by MANEATINGWREATH View Post
                                        Agreed. At this point I'm beginning to think that TSMM is enough for Toyville. It just works and a giant RC pipe may ruin that along with a giant wheel or coaster. A carousel would work but keep in mind that Arabian Coast already has one and any appropriate carousel for Toyville would have already been utilized in Fantasyland already.
                                        Right, like the Dumbo, Astro Orbiter and Aladdin's Flying Carpets at WDW's MK....redundant, but they did it anyway (and now we're getting DOUBLE Dumbos...so 4 of the same style of attraction)
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