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  • #21
    Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

    Originally posted by drnilescrane
    You have to be joking, right? Those trains have no element of design to them - there commuter Hitachi Monorails with mickey windows with absolutly no attempt at being original, bar some of the obligtory 'mickey' touches that everyone eats up as being incredibly cute and 'Disney' (Disney to me is pushing the boundaries in creative design and taking it to the next level, not cheaping out with star-patterned carpet.). They have got no streamlining and look really heavy compared to the super-sleek WDW Mark VI and DLR Mark VII's.
    Don't forget though that those monorails have to pass regulations too. I bet the OLC wouldn't be allowed to operate something like the Mark series.

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    • #22
      Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

      Oh come on, if they have something like this then a more traditional Disney monorail wouldn't be asking too much.

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      • #23
        Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

        Originally posted by drnilescrane
        You have to be joking, right? Those trains have no element of design to them - there commuter Hitachi Monorails with mickey windows with absolutly no attempt at being original, bar some of the obligtory 'mickey' touches that everyone eats up as being incredibly cute and 'Disney' (Disney to me is pushing the boundaries in creative design and taking it to the next level, not cheaping out with star-patterned carpet.). They have got no streamlining and look really heavy compared to the super-sleek WDW Mark VI and DLR Mark VII's.

        I'm not trying to be xenophobic or rasist, but sometimes Japanese culture really puzzles me - they don't really have a care for anything that tries to be groundbreaking artistic as long as it's cute (and in the case of TDR, stars Mickey). That being said, looking at some of the entertainment on the TDR website the costuming and the props/sets look lavish and beautifuly crafted, but the plots are incredibly weak and only serve to get the mouse as much stage time as possible.
        oh come on! the original poster just made an error in judgement about titling this thread, it's all about recounting the great things whicha re unique to TDR, not another TDR is better topic.

        and sure they are super sleek, but they still don't have those cute mickey windows.

        But come on, why does it have to be groundbreaking? so what if it's just cute? That's what the japanese people want! It's actually one of the things that are quite admirable about them. They don't have to care about being better or being extravagantly complex as long as it's fun and enjoyable. You'll only end up dissapointed if you keep looking for everything in one place.

        If you want big stories, go to the movies, read a book! There's a whole world out there with far more interesting things to devote your time to than rant about why Japanese people like cute things. This is a Disney forum, lighten up!

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        • #24
          Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

          Originally posted by Speedway
          Oh gosh... has TDLFAN seen this post yet?
          Yes. Days ago while in Japan.

          Originally posted by MickeyMania
          He appears to have disappeared somewhere for the past two weeks.
          Well, forgive me for having a life. I was in Tokyo and TDR for the past few days... TDL was closed for several hours for three days in a row due to heavy attendance. TDS was also very very crowded but didn't close. Most waittimes were on average 120-145 mins for most major rides. Lines were long for food, especially vending carts. The gift shops were in gridlock mode. To add insult to injury... most entertainment had to be canceled due to very strong winds in the kanto region. Rhythms of the World was particularly impacted by weather cancellations...

          Photos to be posted soon, shortly after my quality control checkup at WDW's MK this tuesday.

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          • #25
            Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

            Quality control checkup?

            Aint dellusions of granduer fun?

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            • #26
              Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

              Originally posted by drnilescrane
              You have to be joking, right? Those trains have no element of design to them - there commuter Hitachi Monorails with mickey windows with absolutly no attempt at being original, bar some of the obligtory 'mickey' touches that everyone eats up as being incredibly cute and 'Disney' (Disney to me is pushing the boundaries in creative design and taking it to the next level, not cheaping out with star-patterned carpet.). They have got no streamlining and look really heavy compared to the super-sleek WDW Mark VI and DLR Mark VII's.

              I'm not trying to be xenophobic or rasist, but sometimes Japanese culture really puzzles me - they don't really have a care for anything that tries to be groundbreaking artistic as long as it's cute (and in the case of TDR, stars Mickey). That being said, looking at some of the entertainment on the TDR website the costuming and the props/sets look lavish and beautifuly crafted, but the plots are incredibly weak and only serve to get the mouse as much stage time as possible.
              You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to drnilescrane again.

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              • #27
                Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                Originally posted by KNRG
                Quality control checkup?

                Aint dellusions of granduer fun?
                Yes. More fun that you will ever had in a decade.

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                • #28
                  Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                  Originally posted by lazyboy97O
                  Don't forget though that those monorails have to pass regulations too. I bet the OLC wouldn't be allowed to operate something like the Mark series.
                  It wouldn't be to hard to scale the Mark VI up to the same size as the Tokyo Monorails and add a communication door to the front..

                  I know my views on what Tokyo Disneyland should be aren't all that popular (as pointed out above), but I'd love to see Disney return to making inovations in Story and Technology just for the sake of pushing the boundaries further, rather than cheaping out and doing what everybody else is doing just to please the crowds easily. Mission:Space v Horizons is an example of this - Horizons even on paper is a much more appealing ride to me because it presents and optimistic vision of the future rather than throwing me arround just to an adrenalin shot.

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                  • #29
                    Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                    I just love how those of you who have never set foot on the TDR LIne are quick to put it down because it looks odd, boxy, whathave you.... But that's all you will ever know about the TDR LIne monorails.... There is more positive aspects of that operation beyond the look of those monorails... which is why they put the much nicer looking DL and WDW monos to bloody shame.

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                    • #30
                      Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                      TDL, do you ever try to see past the end of your own nose?

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                      • #31
                        Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                        Originally posted by TDLFAN
                        I just love how those of you who have never set foot on the TDR LIne are quick to put it down because it looks odd, boxy, whathave you.... But that's all you will ever know about the TDR LIne monorails.... There is more positive aspects of that operation beyond the look of those monorails... which is why they put the much nicer looking DL and WDW monos to bloody shame.
                        But TDLFAN, I have taken a grand circle tour of the Tokyo Disney Resort on the TDRL monorail in Janurary 2005. The system was efficient and did an excelent job of getting people from the station to Tokyo Disney Sea (Which I didn't visit seeing as I only had one day at the resort) and it was all run just like the railways (Including Having To Pay ).

                        I just REALLY hate their appearance.

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                        • #32
                          Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                          Originally posted by drnilescrane
                          But TDLFAN, I have taken a grand circle tour of the Tokyo Disney Resort on the TDRL monorail in Janurary 2005. The system was efficient and did an excelent job of getting people from the station to Tokyo Disney Sea (Which I didn't visit seeing as I only had one day at the resort) and it was all run just like the railways (Including Having To Pay ).

                          I just REALLY hate their appearance.
                          Great. I stand corrected, but how come you never cared to mention the positive along side your personal opinion on their apperance?? At least I agree the WDW and DLR monos are great looking over TDR's but (at least at WDW) their service and expeditiousness leave a lot to be desired.

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                          • #33
                            Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                            i personallyy like the TDR monorails better

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                            • #34
                              Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                              Originally posted by TDLFAN
                              Great. I stand corrected, but how come you never cared to mention the positive along side your personal opinion on their apperance?? At least I agree the WDW and DLR monos are great looking over TDR's but (at least at WDW) their service and expeditiousness leave a lot to be desired.
                              I've maintained since the beginning that the Service is superior at TDL - I just forgot about the TDL line.

                              I'd never expect a Cast Member to come rushing up to help me while I was struggling with my bags at Disneyland like what happened to me at TDL.

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                              • #35
                                Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                Originally posted by stitcharielsinbad
                                oh come on! the original poster just made an error in judgement about titling this thread, it's all about recounting the great things whicha re unique to TDR, not another TDR is better topic.
                                Huh? Maybe you should explain that.

                                It seems to me that the error is on the side of the reader, not me. The thread title is "things that are better at TDR" ... NOT "TDR is better than others because of these reasons."

                                Big difference. So what's the error you're claiming I made in the title?
                                Magic Journeys...

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                                • #36
                                  Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                  Originally posted by drnilescrane
                                  I'm not trying to be xenophobic or rasist, but sometimes Japanese culture really puzzles me - they don't really have a care for anything that tries to be groundbreaking artistic as long as it's cute (and in the case of TDR, stars Mickey). That being said, looking at some of the entertainment on the TDR website the costuming and the props/sets look lavish and beautifuly crafted, but the plots are incredibly weak and only serve to get the mouse as much stage time as possible.
                                  You have to be joking, right? If you truly think that Japanese culture "don't really have a care for anything that tries to be groundbreaking artistic...", well, it doesn't necessarily make you xenophobic or "rasist"[sic] but it does raise the possibility that you are extemely ignorant of Japanese art and design. It ain't all Sanrio over there!
                                  Magic Journeys...

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                                  • #37
                                    Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                    Originally posted by America Stings
                                    Huh? Maybe you should explain that.

                                    It seems to me that the error is on the side of the reader, not me. The thread title is "things that are better at TDR" ... NOT "TDR is better than others because of these reasons."

                                    Big difference. So what's the error you're claiming I made in the title?
                                    oh ok well then, you really souldn't have put the flavoured popcorn thing there.

                                    and The Paris Pirates PWNS the Tokyo version.

                                    and the AA Alien band can easily be trumped by either Sunny Eclipse in MK or the Enchanted Tikki Restaurant place in Paris

                                    and Rocket Jets is so outdated.

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                                    • #38
                                      Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                      Japanese culture doesn't do anything "groundbreaking artistic"? Ever heard of Kabuki, Bunraku, Japanese Rock Gardens, Flower Arrangements, Bonsai trees, Japanese trees of all kinds in fact, Shoji screens, Tatami mats, futons, anime? Japanese arts are everywhere, they have always been artistic. As for their theme parks, DisneySea isn't artistic? I've never seen any theme park that's more classy and artistic than DisneySea.
                                      Last edited by DisneySeaFan; 04-04-2006, 04:04 PM.

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                                      • #39
                                        Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                        Originally posted by TDLFAN
                                        To add insult to injury... most entertainment had to be canceled due to very strong winds in the kanto region.
                                        At first I misread this as "very stong winds in the kancho region" and giggled like a schoolgirl.

                                        Photos to be posted soon, shortly after my quality control checkup at WDW's MK this tuesday.
                                        Well, I want high-res shots this time PLEASE. The only thing disappointing about browsing your photo gallery is seeing a beautiful picture of a park I'll probably never see and then seeing that it's stuck at 640x480. :beg:

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                                        • #40
                                          Re: Things that are better at TDR than other Disney parks/resorts

                                          Originally posted by stitcharielsinbad
                                          oh ok well then, you really souldn't have put the flavoured popcorn thing there.

                                          and The Paris Pirates PWNS the Tokyo version.

                                          and the AA Alien band can easily be trumped by either Sunny Eclipse in MK or the Enchanted Tikki Restaurant place in Paris

                                          and Rocket Jets is so outdated.
                                          Alright, cool, awesome, dope.... but you still didn't answer my question....

                                          Oh well, I think I figured it out myself. I should have titled this thread differently because the way it is now just brings the wrong/weird/angry/irrelevant kind of responses out of hyper-defensive posters.

                                          Why not put in the "flavoured" popcorn? "You shouldn't have done that!" LOL. Big deal. Get over it. That stuff is good. They need more flavored (sorry, I'm American) popcorn at my home park, DL.

                                          Paris Pirates could very well "PWN" every other POTC. Quite unfortunately, I haven't been on it yet. Haven't been to DLP (or HKDL), so I'm losing out big time, and don't really have the full perspective on all Disney parks. Fair enough. Guess I should have done a disclaimer and mentioned that in the OP.

                                          Eff the alien band. I'm not that attached to them really. Take them off my list. Could care less at this point. I'm going to Chuck E. Cheese.

                                          Rocket Jets... I already went over that one.
                                          Magic Journeys...

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