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  • #21
    Originally posted by TDLFAN
    the old font was officially restated minus the enclicled D logo that went with no.
    I don't understand this part of your sentence? Enclicled? that went with ?????

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    • #22
      He meant that it came back, but without the enlarged D with the Mickey silhouette in, obviously.

      And no, I never did associate that font with Asian lettering. You think the Asians know about this, haha? Oh well, I guess they tried really hard to make Disney fit in Japan and I'm not going along with it at all. I'll try to stay out of this now, haha.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by pussnboots
        He meant that it came back, but without the enlarged D with the Mickey silhouette in, obviously.

        And no, I never did associate that font with Asian lettering. You think the Asians know about this, haha? Oh well, I guess they tried really hard to make Disney fit in Japan and I'm not going along with it at all. I'll try to stay out of this now, haha.
        I don't see or understand anything obivous about that "sentence"!!!

        No, the Tokyo Disneyland Font was not meant to evoke asian lettering, I didn't say that. The pointy font ends were meant to evoke the ends of Torii gates.
        Last edited by Adventurer; 05-11-2005, 11:59 AM.

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        • #24
          Torii Gates:


          Tokyo Disneyland:

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          • #25
            Last edited by Adventurer; 05-11-2005, 07:00 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by pussnboots
              No, I haven't been, and I'm sure that once I go I'll love every inch of it, but until then my impression remains that I don't like the parks sense of style
              Well you see? the difference between you and me then is that I base my opinions on the experiences I have had the chance to have and *never ever* make assumptions about things until I see them with my very own eyes. Reason why I still withhold to pass judgement on HKDL based on photos and renderings. I did the same thing when DCA opened...and while everyone was putting the place down for being cheap, I kept saying .."No, I will not offer an opinion until I go and see for myself." Guess what? I liked DCA for what it is= a great looking disneyfied cut above 6-flags kinda of park.
              In other words... I can respect your opinion of TDL's logo because that is something you can pass judgement on without ever visiting the park, but to dismiss TDL's attributes (or any other subject for that matter) just based on photos and images that do not give you the whole picture, then.. that I have a hard time accepting. Nothing personal to you but that is how I feel about this. I will continue arguing this point with you once you have been to TDL/TDS.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Adventurer
                I don't understand this part of your sentence? Enclicled? that went with ?????
                Adventurer, sorry about my misprint. I meant to say 'name'. The TDL font was also accompanied with a D with a circle and looked like this (the original TDL park font and logo)

                http://www.solarius.com/dvp/dlt/index.html

                Then they changed it to this in the mid 90s (as it appears on this pin photo)

                http://www.pinpics.com/cgi-bin/pin.c...906.1115867168

                ...but guests and CMs hate it. Now we have this one... Same font, different castle logo:

                http://www.tokyodisneyresort.co.jp/tdl/index_e.html

                Also note TDL's slogan..."Kingdom of Dreams and Magic". When the park opened in 1983, it used to be "Kingdom of Family Dreams and Magic", but it got shortened.

                Hope that helps.... :o

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                • #28
                  Sorry but I just cant stand it. I prefer a the logo for the resort as a whole... It's a bit more timeless. I also fell that the Disneyland Resort in California should have a modern 'Waltograph' logo for the Resort as a whole, and keep the 50's text for the park only.

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                  • #29
                    Well, that's all very true and I can't judge a park I've never set foot in, but the things I'm judging are perfectly judgeable from the perspective of someone who's analysed about 10,000 photos. I'm not talking about atmosphere, because I'm sure that's great. I'm not talking about the scent of detergents that surely looms in ever corner, I'm not talking about the way the park it set up or how friendly the CMs are. All I'm saying is that I don't like the logos, the banners, the facades in Fantasyland and the paint in Tomorrowland. It's no big deal, anyway, and I know I'm now being the equivalent of someone who insults your mother, as you love that place.

                    Also, I would love to go there, but it will snow on the hills of Hell before I can afford such a thing.

                    And... Yes, that newfangled TDL logo with Walt's handwriting isn't all that good... But then again that kind of belongs to DLP, doesn't it? I'm probably contradicting myself, but I guess it would've been nicer if they'd tried a slightly different approach. Also, if no one associates that old logo with the koi pond decorations Adventurer was talking about, I'd say it's not working.

                    *is in too deep*

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by pussnboots

                      Also, if no one associates that old logo with the koi pond decorations Adventurer was talking about, I'd say it's not working.

                      *is in too deep*
                      I think it is working. I think maybe just because your brain doesn't make the connection, doesn't mean it's not working? Maybe you just have a block here? I got the Asian influence in Tokyo Disneylands logo when I first saw it in 1983, when I was 15 yrs old, I got it, and I'm sure if you were to ask the Disney artist who came up with the logo he'd tell you the same thing I'm saying: that the style of the font was no accident or random choice, but was indeed meant to evoke a stylistic representation of Japan or a Japanese motif. Oh, and Torii gates are more than just koi pond decorations.

                      P.S. That mid '90's Tokyo Disneyland logo was HORRIBLE. Bland, plain, and not special. Thank goodness people had the sense to complain. If only WDW guests and CM's could be so astute and take such initiative.
                      Last edited by Adventurer; 05-12-2005, 03:57 AM.

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                      • #31
                        So I'm not the greatest expert on Japan, haha. I didn't mean that it's not working just because *I* can't see the Toriiism (<first ever word with three "i"s), but I wonder if other people see it. If they do, then it's working.

                        People on this board are very passionate about their parks, that's for sure.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by pussnboots
                          So I'm not the greatest expert on Japan, haha. I didn't mean that it's not working just because *I* can't see the Toriiism (<first ever word with three "i"s), but I wonder if other people see it. If they do, then it's working.

                          People on this board are very passionate about their parks, that's for sure.
                          Yes, they are. Even I am, although as we saw in the "partners" statue thread, not even to the level some others can get, but...as far as the TDL font goes, I don't think the average parkgoer sees it either, but that doesn't matter. All that matters is that that is the TDL unique logo and CM's and park goers wanted it to stay. I agree with them.

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                          • #33
                            I have always thought the TDL font is quite elegant in it's simplicity and I am glad it is still here today. Likewise I thought the classic WDW was fun and inviting instead of generic-looking in regards to the rest of the WDCo.

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by pussnboots
                              I'm not talking about the scent of detergents that surely looms in ever corner
                              Again, there you go making silly assumptions about something you don't know anything about. I don't mean to be disrespectful but comments like that one do take away from making your point credibly. The truth is, I have never smelled anything remotely 'detergent-like' at TDR, anywhere. Everytime I am out and about at the park, I most often get assaulted by the many scents of caramel, cappucino and honey popcorn, or cinammon churros! Not to mention the candy scented atmosphere of the Confectionary Shop, and perfume scents that permiate from several gift shops in the New orleans area.

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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by TDLFAN
                                Again, there you go making silly assumptions about something you don't know anything about. I don't mean to be disrespectful but comments like that one do take away from making your point credibly. The truth is, I have never smelled anything remotely 'detergent-like' at TDR, anywhere. Everytime I am out and about at the park, I most often get assaulted by the many scents of caramel, cappucino and honey popcorn, or cinammon churros! Not to mention the candy scented atmosphere of the Confectionary Shop, and perfume scents that permiate from several gift shops in the New orleans area.
                                I think he was just being facetious, TDLFAN.

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                                • #36
                                  Um, yes, I was kidding about that detergent bit. It was in fact meant to express a positive side of TDL: it's cleanliness. But I'll try to be really direct and layer-less in my remarks from now on.

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by TDLFAN
                                    WOW! I wonder when Chris took that photo. There is usually a line to get into the Coffeehouse and I see no one there. Plus, notice how nice the cms look and how well staffed the entrance is! Doesn't TDL look nice and clean???
                                    Eh, it looks decent, although the gridwork of the cover above isn't quite so pretty.

                                    I wonder why they went with that? The roof at Universal in Osaka is so much prettier.

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                                    • #38
                                      Agree!!!^^^^

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                                      • #39
                                        Re: What was wrong with Main Street?

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                                        Last edited by PragmaticIdealist; 12-29-2005, 05:02 AM.

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                                        • #40
                                          Re: What was wrong with Main Street?

                                          The only logotype I like for The Magic Kingdoms is the timeless calligraphy; I don't like anything else.

                                          The larger resort destinations can have other designs, but Walt Disney's signature is not really appropriate. Stylized variations that incorporate the calligraphy would work much better.

                                          Incidentally, World Bazaar does disturb me. I would like to see Oriental Land Co. and W.D.I. re-imagine it in some way so that the effect is clearer and more convincing. World Bazaar currently lacks meaning.

                                          I also wonder if it is possible to obtain some sort of legal waiver so that Tokyo Disneyland can have a full-fledged Disneyland Railroad. The D.R.R. is such an important feature of The Magic Kingdoms that Tokyo Disneyland really suffers from the absence of the attraction.

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