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  • When & Why did They do This?!

    ORWEN: Hello to all you sweet little Asian ducklings out there--as well as all you OTHER ducklings out there--who like to visit Tokyo Disneyland. The other day--while sitting around in our cottage in Morva--with nothing better to do aside from watching the nose hairs grow inside the nostrils of a certain nasty old biddy--I started wondering why the management at Tokyo Disneyland decided to change the name of Cinderella's Carousel to whatever it is they call it now. Does it no longer have the same pretty murals decorating it, which depict the story of Cinderella? Sometimes it just seems that management goes and tries to fix things that aren't broken and when they do that it just confuses guests and witches alike!!

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    ORWEN: I really do wish somebody knew the answer to my question because there really isn't anything better to do in Morva, today, besides watching Orgoch's nose hairs grow out of her nostrils and it's getting to the point where I'm just too disgusted to watch her anymore!!

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      According to their website...
      Everyone loves to ride a white horse and the Castle Carrousel has 90 of them with different poses and colorful trappings. Just beneath the carrousel canopy are 18 hand-painted vignettes detailing scenes from Disney's animated classic Cinderella.
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        ORWEN: Why, thank you for answering at least part of my question, askmike1, duckling. I'd still like to know what the carousel has been re-named to, though. (I'd also like to spend my day doing something MUCH more entertaining than what I did yesterday!!)

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        • #5
          Re: When & Why did They do This?!

          The carrousel looks the same as it always has. Cindy's mural and all. Odd though that I don't recall it being named "Castle Carrousel" until I saw this topic... Hmmm..

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          • #6
            Re: When & Why did They do This?!

            Just read the japanese side of their website... yup... definitely named the "Castle
            Carrousel". The strange thing is that it mentions that it is "like the Cinderella's finale."
            (which is different from the English side which mentions that it has 18 "vignettes"
            from the movie.)

            Maybe some Japanese copyright restriction?

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            • #7
              Re: When & Why did They do This?!

              The name of the attraction changed back in 2001 before DisneySea opened.

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              • #8
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                ORWEN: Really? But why? I mean, was it really necessary? Especially since there are still murals depicting Cinderella all over it? Some things just don't make sense.

                ORDDU: As I recall--long before they installed the traditional Sword in the Stone in front of the carrousel--there had been a special ceremony, there, called 'If the Shoe Fits Wear it'. (Well, it may have been called something else. But that's what it COULD have been called.) Anyway, the Great Grand Duke would come out and invite all the eligible young ladies of the kingdom to try on a glass slipper. If their foot would fit, they received some sort of token prize--not nearly anything so good as a handsome hunk to take them off to the castle of their dreams--or you can bet I'd have flown a broomstick over there to be first in line. Still, it was a quaint little piece of fluff for those who partook of it way back whenever...

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                  Re: When & Why did They do This?!

                  Maybe they had changed it because "Castle" is easier to pronounce for the native Japanese than "Cinderella?" Just a guess.

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                    Yeah that sounds like a good reason. Ca-sell...Cind-a-rella-a...
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                    • #11
                      Re: When & Why did They do This?!

                      Originally posted by Evan
                      Maybe they had changed it because "Castle" is easier to pronounce for the native Japanese than "Cinderella?" Just a guess.
                      Good guess, but unfortunately, probably not correct... :-)

                      In japanese (well, at least the romanized version):
                      "Castle" is "ka (t) so ru" where (t) is a shortened T sound.
                      "Cinderella" is "Shi n de re la" and IMHO more commonly known and easier to say.

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                        The Japanese even know how to pronounce "Cinderellabration".

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                        • #13
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                          Or as they would say: "Shi n de re la bu le e sho n"

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                          • #14
                            Re: When & Why did They do This?!

                            Originally posted by DisneyLurker
                            The Japanese even know how to pronounce "Cinderellabration".
                            That's because at TDL this show is simply gorgeous and grand scaled... At the MK at WDW, they call it "garbage". :bash:

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                              Originally posted by nish221
                              Or as they would say: "Shi n de re la bu le e sho n"
                              Umm.. don't the Japanese use a "r" sound for both r and l- making it "Shi n de re ra bu re sho n"

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                                grvtydefy, you're right. It's actually not an english "r" or a "l", but something
                                in-between; basically an english "r" w/ no tongue roll... I think officially in romaji, an "r" is used.

                                Also they use an vowel extender that look like a long hyphen (-) so the last "re" is really pronounced "ray" (long a sound)

                                So.... (finally) we have : "Shi n de re ra bu re - sho n"

                                "Sumimasen" for dragging everyone thru Japanese 101. ^^
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                                • #17
                                  Re: When & Why did They do This?!

                                  Originally posted by TDLFAN
                                  That's because at TDL this show is simply gorgeous and grand scaled... At the MK at WDW, they call it "garbage". :bash:
                                  Hmmm.. TDLFAN, isn't that a bit harsh?... I agree it's not a great show (no drama) and is a pale
                                  imitation of the TDR version, but the costumes are nicely done and the casting
                                  and the acting at least sufficient.

                                  My daughter (who is definitely in the target Disney Princess demographic) loved
                                  the show and it was definitely worth seeing once (as long as they've
                                  never seen the TDR version).

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                                  • #18
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                                    If you have never seen the Tokyo version, then I would believe that you and your Princesses at home would love it. However... bad acting (mercifully there is non of that acting and speech stuff at TDL) , and yes... the costuming in the Tokyo version puts the MK's to bloody shame, plus there are much more characters including the classic gang and even Cindy's stepmom and sisters..and much more fanfare...etc etc...

                                    Ok, the point is...NO I am not being harsh.. Actually I am being as nice as I can possibly be and not telling you how bad I think this version of this show is compared to TDL's.

                                    For the record... Being "sufficient" (as you put it) is not something Disney should be aiming for in regards to their park entertainment, especially the shows the tout all over property with a gazillion of banners in ever parking lot and park entry on property. They should be *exceeding expectations*...do you remember when WDW used to do that???

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                                      Re: When & Why did They do This?!

                                      Originally posted by TDLFAN
                                      . . .For the record... Being "sufficient" (as you put it) is not something Disney should be aiming for in regards to their park entertainment, especially the shows the tout all over property with a gazillion of banners in ever parking lot and park entry on property. They should be *exceeding expectations*...do you remember when WDW used to do that???
                                      Alas, yes, I agree whole heartedly with that as I *do* remember when WDW
                                      used to exceed expectations. In fact, they used to do that all of the time.

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