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  • [Idea] What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

    This would be in terms of a daily show as seen with Cinderellabration & Dream Along With Mickey shows.

    I would personally love to see a show that invites random guests on stage, a family to be featured in the show but given NO mic as they could say something offensive but then again having a random family up on the stage leads to highly unpredictable situations.

    But even better would be a kid chosen to go on stage with the parents standing on stage nearby as part of some show involving Disney characters.

    As for the show itself I'd love to see something original and nothing borrowed from Tokyo or Paris.

    This year would have been a perfect day to celebrate Mickey's birthday every day this year and have a child brought up on stage to wish Mickey a Happy Birthday.

    As for next year, Maybe a show involving the princesses welcoming Princess Tiana to the kingdom... plus have all the Princes welcoming Prince Naveen to the kingdom as well! Hot!



    So I guess that would be my pick, a welcoming party for Princess Tiana and Prince Hunky Naveen!

    What are your ideas?

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    Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

    I personally do not care much for the random idea, but if the Mk put on the same type of castle shows, with the same caliber of production and huge casts we get at TDL.. that alone would make the MK a much better park. Of course, it would help if they also placed benches to watch the show in a *seated* position, like most guests do at TDL. God forbid that Aunt Clara from TN would have to stand for 25 minutes in the blazing heat of FL. Watered down versions of TDL shows, such as the horrible Cinderellabration of two years ago are an embarrasment for the MK and only more clues as to what sorry state the entertainment dept at WDW is in.

    And please... NO MORE PRINCESS crap. Enough already. Its bad enough the BBB has taken over the castle.

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    • #3
      Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

      I guess the concept of Cinderellabration is to focus on Cinderella. The random idea does fit the concept.

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      • #4
        Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

        Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
        I personally do not care much for the random idea, but if the Mk put on the same type of castle shows, with the same caliber of production and huge casts we get at TDL.. that alone would make the MK a much better park. Of course, it would help if they also placed benches to watch the show in a *seated* position, like most guests do at TDL. God forbid that Aunt Clara from TN would have to stand for 25 minutes in the blazing heat of FL. Watered down versions of TDL shows, such as the horrible Cinderellabration of two years ago are an embarrasment for the MK and only more clues as to what sorry state the entertainment dept at WDW is in.

        And please... NO MORE PRINCESS crap. Enough already. Its bad enough the BBB has taken over the castle.
        Well it saddens me you don't care much about the random idea.

        Everything could make MK a "much better park" than what it is already, we get it, it doesn't compare to every other Disneyland-ish park out there, Animal Kingdom is better than MK, Epcot is better than MK, The restrooms at the Grand Floridian are better than MK, we get it.

        And I love MK, we get that. Forever a MK kid at heart here. Nothing can do it wrong. And the greatest thing that I love about MK is it isn't TDL. Well it did try to be a little like TDL when it borrowed the Cinderellabration thing but you get the idea, MK is not TDL, it doesn't need to be.

        I do like the benches idea but then again the benches in front of the castle are just not pleasing to the eye. I think people can stand for a short show.

        And yes, more more Princess love for MK and DL. Let's face it, they will be welcoming their newest princess to the parks soon and Disney theme parks will make a giant deal out of it. A HUGE deal. Princess will once again take over! All Hail Princesses! And All Hail Prince Naveen. Bow to him.

        And what should operate inside a Castle? A gift shop that sells random merchandise or a gift shop that spews out beautiful little princesses young and old out into the streets of Fantasyland. I love BBB. I adore it, except that time when the lady treated me like crap because I wasn't a paying customer and simply just had questions that she could not answer herself but kept pointing me to a number on a brochure. Evil lady. I probably should have reported her but I didn't care a few minutes afterwards to care much but I will never forget her. I hope to run into here again and ask her more questions... HA HA HA!

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        • #5
          Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

          I'd like to see something more epic, taking full advantage of the grand scale of the castle - a bit like Fantasmic, since the MK doesn't have one like Disneyland. Imagine a night show where the villains try to take over the castle, and Mickey and other characters try to stop them, featuring pyro, characters appearing from the towers, or even fountains in the moat. That would be something guests would come to see.

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          • #6
            Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

            Originally posted by MarkTwain View Post
            I'd like to see something more epic, taking full advantage of the grand scale of the castle - a bit like Fantasmic, since the MK doesn't have one like Disneyland. Imagine a night show where the villains try to take over the castle, and Mickey and other characters try to stop them, featuring pyro, characters appearing from the towers, or even fountains in the moat. That would be something guests would come to see.
            I am not a fan of the current Castle shows and haven't been for awhile. And I'm a WDW girl.

            I'd like to see something in the vein of Fantasmic, like MarkTwain suggested, where the villains try take over the castle. I'd like to see old characters combined with new.

            And please, no fairies, either. I also agree: enough with the Princesses. Please!

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            • #7
              Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

              Originally posted by Micoofy Duck View Post
              Well it saddens me you don't care much about the random idea.
              Not as much as it saddens me.


              Everything could make MK a "much better park" than what it is already, we get it, it doesn't compare to every other Disneyland-ish park out there, Animal Kingdom is better than MK, Epcot is better than MK, The restrooms at the Grand Floridian are better than MK, we get it.
              It's not a matter of getting it. You obviously agree.

              And I love MK, we get that. Forever a MK kid at heart here. Nothing can do it wrong. And the greatest thing that I love about MK is it isn't TDL. Well it did try to be a little like TDL when it borrowed the Cinderellabration thing but you get the idea, MK is not TDL, it doesn't need to be.
              Considering TDL was a re-encarnation of the MK.. it's quite sad that park has become a far superior one over the one used as it's creator. Besides, you do not get this: I am not asking for the MK to be another TDL.. but I believe the MK can achieve the higher standards of TDL in everything they do, but management does not care to. That is what you do not get.

              I do like the benches idea but then again the benches in front of the castle are just not pleasing to the eye. I think people can stand for a short show.
              Bad service. Why make people stand when you can provide a more confortable enviroment for watching a show? Besides... FYI, the benches disappear at TDL once the last show of the day is over... Then again, the castle forecourt at TDL is huge, when compared to the mousey one (pun intended) at the MK... so I can see why benches are needed in TDL. Then again, half of the visitors at the MK are already sitting to watch the castle shows.. in their mobility vehicles, strollers and wheelchairs.

              And yes, more more Princess love for MK and DL. Let's face it, they will be welcoming their newest princess to the parks soon and Disney theme parks will make a giant deal out of it. A HUGE deal. Princess will once again take over! All Hail Princesses! And All Hail Prince Naveen. Bow to him.

              And what should operate inside a Castle? A gift shop that sells random merchandise or a gift shop that spews out beautiful little princesses young and old out into the streets of Fantasyland. I love BBB. I adore it, except that time when the lady treated me like crap because I wasn't a paying customer and simply just had questions that she could not answer herself but kept pointing me to a number on a brochure. Evil lady. I probably should have reported her but I didn't care a few minutes afterwards to care much but I will never forget her. I hope to run into here again and ask her more questions... HA HA HA!
              ........ Someone get him a straight jacket.

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              • #8
                Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                Originally posted by IndianaJane View Post
                I'd like to see something in the vein of Fantasmic, like MarkTwain suggested, where the villains try take over the castle. I'd like to see old characters combined with new.
                Oh you mean.. like TDL's castle forecourt summer show in 2008 "Starlight Dreams"?
                Oh well.. go to You Tube and do a search for that show.. and be amazed.
                Actually, I think I posted that video here in the WDW section not long ago... Or you can buy the dvd of that show, which is on sale in Japan.

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                • #9
                  Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                  Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                  Oh you mean.. like TDL's castle forecourt summer show in 2008 "Starlight Dreams"?
                  Oh well.. go to You Tube and do a search for that show.. and be amazed.
                  Actually, I think I posted that video here in the WDW section not long ago... Or you can buy the dvd of that show, which is on sale in Japan.
                  Just checked it out and that looks a lot like what I'm thinking about. I've never been to TDL (one day), but have long said that a lot of what they have going on is exactly what I'd like to see at WDW (I mean, a Jack Skellington float for Halloween? Why can't WDW have that?).

                  I really, really can't express how much I dislike WDW's castle shows. For such a beautiful centerpiece, they come across as really hokey and unspectacular.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                    Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                    It's not a matter of getting it. You obviously agree.
                    Ohhh helllno I don't agree. MK is the best there is and will always be! No one can tell me different. I will never visit TDL and suddenly think it is better than MK. I visited DL twice now and I don't think it's better than MK by any means. MK is always better than all.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                      Originally posted by Micoofy Duck View Post
                      Ohhh helllno I don't agree.
                      You keep believing that
                      MK is the best there is and will always be! No one can tell me different.
                      I hate to break it to you but I just did, and will continue to do so when I feel it's necesary for the lurking management types need to be told their job at the MK is mediocre. But Please, in regards to your stance on this, do not make me say.."ignorance is bliss". Oooops!
                      But you can not just come on and say.. "MK is the best, period". Tell us exactly why you feel that way, and more importantly, why do you feel this way without having had first hand experience with other DL-type parks abroad outside the USA. Personally, I would never claim any specific park to the best without having experienced it myself, nor would I even dare making an opinion at all.
                      I will never visit TDL and suddenly think it is better than MK. I visited DL twice now and I don't think it's better than MK by any means. MK is always better than all.
                      No one is telling you not to like the MK. I for one appreciate the fact that each of the DL-style parks have something unique to offer, including atmosphere.. But some of us do not take the parks at face value. You see.. there is more to the name "Disney" than just Space Mountain or the BBB. This is where I find the MK, and it's shows (except Wishes) lacking in some merits. As for you never visiting TDL.. well, your loss. But I hope you do.. not to find find out how much more quality is there.. but just to have the chance to see it for it's unique approach and attractions..

                      Finally.. just a reminder.. you asked for our opinions on the show idea.. and I gave it to you. So, if your position on this is going to be simply "the MK is best no matter what", then why even bother asking for ideas and opinions about the MK at all?
                      Last edited by TDLFAN; 05-04-2009, 01:50 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                        None. I'd rather be able to walk through the castle at most times of the day, and to disperse the performers to be 'streetmosphere' at each of the lands. An Adventureland show, now that'd be spiffy.

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                        • #13
                          Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                          Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                          And please... NO MORE PRINCESS crap. Enough already. Its bad enough the BBB has taken over the castle.
                          Agreed. I am so sick of the princess sensory overload.

                          Originally posted by Micoofy Duck View Post
                          Ohhh helllno I don't agree. MK is the best there is and will always be! No one can tell me different. I will never visit TDL and suddenly think it is better than MK. I visited DL twice now and I don't think it's better than MK by any means. MK is always better than all.
                          Yeah keep telling yourself that. De Nile isn't just a river in Africa. I've never even been to TDL but I can see from the photos that it's light years better that MK. I even like DL better than MK and I haven't been to DL in 20 years.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                            Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                            You So, if your position on this is going to be simply "the MK is best no matter what", then why even bother asking for ideas and opinions about the MK at all?
                            All I have to say is I welcome everyone's opinions on the question in hand, please don't put it out there that I do not welcome contrast opinions or ideas about MK, you personally take a stand at discussing MK in a lower form while I discuss it in a higher form. I bother to ask because I am here as a member interested in opinions and ideas. So please don't attempt to misread my intentions here and attempt to turn it around on me asking me why I should even "bother" asking at all. I bother to do so because I enjoy the chats, forums and responses.

                            I was just hoping to get ideas for new shows for the castle but alas I get more how MK is not as good at TDL. I also get your agenda with the higher ups viewing the boards and your message to them but I don't think it is working, stitch's new tomorrowland show is proof of that!

                            It becomes a broken record just as my enjoyment and praise of MK becomes a broken record. That's all. Nothing wrong with broken records but a new record would be nice every now and then.
                            Last edited by Micoofy Duck; 05-04-2009, 01:33 PM.

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                              Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                              Originally posted by aimster View Post
                              Yeah keep telling yourself that. De Nile isn't just a river in Africa. I've never even been to TDL but I can see from the photos that it's light years better that MK. I even like DL better than MK and I haven't been to DL in 20 years.
                              Well bravo to you for rating the parks in terms of which one you personally like better. More power to you and I wish nothing on you changing your mind about that.

                              I'm not in "De Nile" I'm just a MK boy. What more can I say. I have visited DL twice and I can say that honestly I still love MK more. I say this because this year I made the choice to visit WDW/MK again for the 7th time rather than a 3rd trip to DL, which will come when Wonders Of Colors and the other DCA rides are open. No rush on my part to visit DL again anytime soon.

                              I have too seen great videos/photos on TDL, love DisneySea! But I just don't come away from photos as you have that TDL is "light years better than MK". That's how you see it, which is perfectly fine, I'm just stating that I don't see myself jumping in the group that rate the parks with MK at the very bottom. That's all. And that's me assuming many do rate MK at the very bottom which who knows if anyone actually does that but it does appear that way.

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                              • #16
                                Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                                Originally posted by SkittleKicks View Post
                                None. I'd rather be able to walk through the castle at most times of the day, and to disperse the performers to be 'streetmosphere' at each of the lands. An Adventureland show, now that'd be spiffy.
                                Honestly, I love the idea of getting rid of the show walls permanently. It's ridiculous as it is now. They're up too long. One show a day. That's all we really need - if we need any.

                                As for the whole, "I love MK and they can do nothing wrong" - think of it like this, if you constantly give the people at Disney great feedback on crappy stuff, it will never meet its potential. If my best friend comes out of the dressing room wearing a horrid dress, I'm not going to lie and tell her I love it. I'm going to tell her the truth because I care about her and want to see her be the best that she can be.

                                Same goes for MK. I want it to be spectacular. Because it can be.

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                                • #17
                                  Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                                  Originally posted by Micoofy Duck View Post
                                  All I have to say is I welcome everyone's opinions on the question in hand, please don't put it out there that I do not welcome contrast opinions or ideas about MK, you personally take a stand at discussing MK in a lower form while I discuss it in a higher form. I bother to ask because I am here as a member interested in opinions and ideas. So please don't attempt to misread my intentions here and attempt to turn it around on me asking me why I should even "bother" asking at all. I bother to do so because I enjoy the chats, forums and responses.
                                  That's all fine and dandy.. but still did not answer the question.. please give reasons as to why you grade the MK so superior.."no matter what". Convince me please then I will agree with you. I could change my mind via good proven arguments that make sense and are hard to contradict due to fact.

                                  I also get your agenda with the higher ups viewing the boards and your message to them but I don't think it is working, stitch's new tomorrowland show is proof of that!
                                  You know why that is? Because ultimately, the main reason why the MK is what it is.. is because the management agenda is to do it the "cheapest way possible" <<---- that is what matters to management, and not our opinions.. but that won't stop me from holding them responsible when the entertainment and park quality do not match the price paid to visit is. Mind you.. the WDC is also pushing OLC to cut back at TDR in every way possible and that is why the entertainment at TDL is suffering lately. The last castle show they did.. "Dream Goes on" was a dud by TDR standards.. but (look it up on youtube) by MK's standards? It would be too expensive to put on. This is why when you post about what others would like to see being done at the castle stage.. I can only tell you what's being done and how the MK can still be a better entertainment provider.

                                  it becomes a broken record just as my enjoyment and praise of MK becomes a broken record. That's all. Nothing wrong with broken records but a new record would be nice every now and then.
                                  You mean like the new records they produce for TDR almost every season of the year? Lucky for us.. all of the entertainment music at TDR is released on records that no one would brake because they are that good!! (Sorry, could not resist it)

                                  Originally posted by IndianaJane
                                  As for the whole, "I love MK and they can do nothing wrong" - think of it like this, if you constantly give the people at Disney great feedback on crappy stuff, it will never meet its potential. If my best friend comes out of the dressing room wearing a horrid dress, I'm not going to lie and tell her I love it. I'm going to tell her the truth because I care about her and want to see her be the best that she can be.

                                  Same goes for MK. I want it to be spectacular. Because it can be.
                                  EXACTLY MY POINT AND REASON OF MY RANTS!! Thank you! Finally someone gets where I am coming from. My rants are not about making people who love the MK mad nor about praising TDR with biased fervor.. it's about expressing frustration about how lacking the MK park has become and letting everyone know (especially the lurking management) that some of us are on to them for lowering the quality by degrees while incresing the passport prices almost yearly. The MK can be a much much better park than what it already is.. but I will not excuse the management at WDW for offering the least possible (and in your case Micoofy, acceptable) quality overall, at premium prices. Sadly, I can only offer TDR and DLR, and even DLP, or some aspects of HKDL as examples of how the MK could be improved to the highest level. I am not blind that it requires money and true dedication to improve this park.. (look at the DCA predicament..now they have to spend heavily so the ship can stay afloat). How badly has the MK need to get before the management finally "gets it"??? Obviously DVC has the priority.. yet this is an aspect of the WDW that will be seen by the least amount of guests. Tragic, that the money is being invested in resorts that will not be seen by the average guest, yet the parks continue to deteriorate.. while having the hard task of being the main draw.
                                  And THAT my dear Micoofy... IS my point in all of this.

                                  Want a more eloquent and convincing point of view on this?? Then read poster AnotherVoice's threads in the Tokyo section. Even an old crow like me got some enlightment from his posts... and I have been around the Disney blocks quite a few times!!

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                                    And here's where I'm coming from in a probably more clearer point.

                                    I am perfectly happy with what is presented to me at this current state at WDW and at the MK.

                                    The reasons why I don't think MK has issues or faults is because I don't think they do. I mean everything has minor flaws, nothing's perfect, I've never used the term perfect but have expressed that MK doesn't need anything different to make it better than what it is already. I'm happy with the park but very much welcome new updates and changes but if they don't come I'll enjoy it the way it is.

                                    Other people, TDL for example, see a much deeper version of MK and the problems that some see with the park, well I don't see them as a big issue or something to complain about with intent to get things changed in the future. What most here see wrong with MK I don't see wrong with MK.

                                    That is why repeatedly when some complains or rips MK apart for what it is I continue to state "there's nothing wrong with it, it's fine the way it is". And the pattern repeats and repeats.

                                    I understand the point of voicing opinions about how MK can be better and how certain people want MK to be so much better tha what it is already but I'm just plain happy with the park that exists now. If it doesn't change, so be it. I'll continue to visit on a yearly basis as I currently do.

                                    That is why in the stitch tomorrowland thread I did express some distaste for the show but found some good points to it and figured it may be tweaked as most shows are. I wish for it to be better just like everyone else but if it remains the same I'm happy with it and will sit through it and video tape it and watch it when I can when I'm in Tomorrowland and feel that I would like to watch a live show in MK.

                                    I'm not in denial. I'm seeing the same park everyone else is but I don't see these problems as a big deal or something to harp on. People may get frustrated with me and how I view the parks but I can't help but just love MK for what it is, as it is, today, not what it could be.

                                    As for issues people here have with management, I don't care how they handle the parks, as long as it is open, I'm there enjoying it. That wand on Epcot's Spaceship Earth, never hated it, I shrug my shoulders it has gone to a graveyard and welcome back the original Spaceship Earth.

                                    The hat in HS is fine with me. If it goes away so be it. I don't hate the hat, I actually love it. People have issues with Stitch and Monster's Inc shows in Tomorrowland but I don't, I love both shows the way it is and if they change or go away, I shrug my shoulders and visit whatever else replaces it.

                                    Now most here can hopefully now see where I'm coming from with my statements. You want to discuss MK in a certain way and I choose to discuss it in a complete different way. You attack the parks with love and good intentions while I rave about it with love feeling nothing is wrong.

                                    And about the dress thing... some dresses that come out of a dressing room are seen as "horrid" to some eyes but are also viewed as quite beautiful to others. Recently a female friend of mine asked me and someone else at the same time, "you like this" and the other friend said it's ugly while I said it looks great. One wants it to become better while the other thinks it's fine the way it is.

                                    Okay. I think that's it. Have a magical day.
                                    Last edited by Micoofy Duck; 05-05-2009, 12:07 PM.

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: What kind of Ideas, Shows Should Happen In Front Of Cinderella's Castle?

                                      They should make some kind of Fantasmic like show. It could have explosions, fireworks and lasers... and characters running around while the castle was being overtaken by some classic Disney badguy... perhaps Michael Eisner.

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