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  • What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    *updated/corrected*

    What if I told you that, for the next 10 years, there would be NO new attractions at Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom. No A, B, C, or E ticket rides or attractions. Some new parades and live entertainment, yes, but NO $100 million + new experiences. No new lands. No removal of Mickey’s Toontown Fair. No Ariel’s Undersea Adventure. No new character Meet-and-Greets. No Pixie Hollow.

    How would you feel? Would you want to go back anytime soon? Thank about it for a minute, before you keep reading.
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    Now, what if I told you that INSTEAD of new attractions, that WDW Magic Kingdom would be systematically upgraded over the next 10 years. The money would go to:

    FANTASYLAND
    - The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh would be converted to the more elaborate Pooh’s Huney Hunt, using TDL technology.
    - Mickey's Philharmagic upgraded to a digital projection system
    - Revive the daily Merlin's King of the Realm/Sword in the Stone ceremony

    MAIN STREET
    - Replace the red cement on Main Street with real bricks.
    - All of the Main Street buildings would receive a fresh coat of paint, yearly.
    - The Magic Shop would be brought back to the Magic Kingdom (could even use Houdini’s, like they now do in Anaheim DL).
    - Nickelodeons would be brought back to Main Street, taking over the Main Street Cinema (which is now just another store for Miley Cyrus CDs and overpriced books/prints).
    - Convert all Main Street lights to more energy efficient, longer lasting LEDs

    TOMORROWLAND
    - Tomorrowland would be completely refurbished, and a unified theme would be established.
    - The Carousel of Progress would receive an updated show/storyline, with new animatronics.
    - Indy Speedway would be converted to electric cars, such as at HKDL, and the grand stand/queue would be renovated.
    - Keep the Tomorrowland Terrace/Noodle station OPEN, not just for busy days and special high-priced events
    - Add the Anaheim style Buzz Lighyear blasters to the WDW version of the ride; and upgrade the chase tunnel video screen (which goes ALL the way back to the 1970s If You Had Wings!) to a digital projection system

    ADVENTURELAND
    - The Tiki Room would be converted back to original show, with upgraded animatronics.
    - Steel drum bands would again play in Adventureland
    - The Adventureland Veranda Restaurant would re-open, to provide additional meal options. A more affordable meet-and-greet could be place here, QUITE easily. Safari Mickey, Aladdin characters, Lion King characters, etc.
    - Jungle Cruise upgrade, fire/wire effects, piranha attack, etc.


    FRONTIERLAND
    - The Country Bear Jamboree would re-introduce its yearly Holiday overlay.
    - Bring back a SHOW to the Diamond Horseshoe Saloon (let's at LEAST get an eat coast version of Billy Hill and the Hillbillies!)

    GENERAL
    - Outside vending/food carts would be cut back.
    - Merchandise would again be specific to each land, not a generic “Disney Store” selection everywhere you went.
    - The Mark 6 monorails would be upgraded one at a time in “retro” fashion, similar to Anaheim DL, but with more cars and new air conditioning units.
    - Monorail pylons would be pressure washed to remove the years of grime and grease.
    - More character topiaries at the TTTC and MK
    - All visible rooftops would be cleaned/refurbished.
    - Less emphasis on "Convert your kid into a princess/pirate/cartoon/water buffalo etc. for only $89.99!" type boutiques

    LIBERTY SQUARE
    - Nightmare Before Christmas overlay would FINALLY be included at the WDW Haunted Mansion
    - Open up the bottle neck/narrow street passage from Fantasyland at the Columbia Harbour House.

    - on, and on, and on, and on…….
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    Would the trade-off be worth it to you?

    The real question here is: do you NEED a new E-ticket every few years, to keep the park fresh, at the expense of regular upkeep? Or can you heavily invest in existing infrastructure, and keep people coming back? $100+ million for a new ride/attraction, or take ALL OF THE MONEY and spread it everywhere around the park.


     
    Last edited by chris2fett; 12-04-2009, 11:25 AM.

  • tloolgb
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Ideally, I would like a mix of the two (I don't like all of those options). But I would take option #2, because some of those upgrades could be considered "new" attractions when you change the existing attractions that much.

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  • Timekeeper
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    Going for list number 2 for a decade long makeover of the Magic Kingdom, with stops at Adventureland, Fronterland, Liberty Square, Fantasyland, Tomorrowland and Main Street U.S.A. With the removal of Mickey's Toontown Fair (maybe?)


    Timekeeper

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  • lily23
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Preaching to the choir! I couldn't agree more...

    One thing I'd add to your list (though space is probably prohibitive) I'd love to see Pirates to be changed from the "so-so" orlando version to the spectacular Disneyland version, complete with the skeleton with liquor trickling down it's "throat", the two guys shooting at each other across your boat as debris appears to be precariously positioned over your head...the old man smoking outside his shack in the beginning... oh, how I pine for Disneyland pirates!

    I grew up in California and I've been living in Florida for many years now. For years, it pained me how inferior the magic kingdom was to Disneyland in terms of attention to detail, exquisite design, beauty, and cleanliness; though, I went back to Disneyland for the first time in years, and I have to admit it's not the park I remember from my childhood...

    But I digress: Yes, the next ten years would be much better spent restoring all to its former glory, and doing modest updating as was done to HM, and all the details the original poster mentioned...that's what makes Disney "a cut above" all other theme parks... it's those details, those special nuances that make it truly special...and it aggravates me to no end to see things not working (like the fountains that shoot water from pot to pot on Splash mountain, ) and to see dirt and grime on the roofs, and to see things disappear and never come back (like the bread bowls they used to sell with clam chowder soup...*sigh*)

    I would much MUCH rather see all that come back.

    But, I'm old school, hopelessly old school, and I don't know that I speak for the majority of present and future park goers...


    (And one more thing...don't even THINK about touching Peter Pan! Just keep the paint fresh, that's all...)

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  • Imagineer Scott
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by Casey Jr View Post
    I think this thread is all hypethecal, IF the expansion didn't happen...

    Oh, my bad!

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  • ORD84
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    I'd go with option #2 Spruicing things up makes things look so much newer than they really are it's not funny...it'd be a great way to WOW a great many people

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  • Casey Jr
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    I think this thread is all hypethecal, IF the expansion didn't happen...

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  • Imagineer Scott
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by Casey Jr View Post
    There isn't room for Poohs Hunny Hunt in the current building, the only way that could clone it to magic kingdom would be if the replaced the current pooh with... Mr. Toads, and built Poohs Hunny Hunt across the way in the old 2000 leagues filled up lagoon.
    Also, why Nickelodian in the cinema?...

    ???



    You do know TLM is going there, right?

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  • Casey Jr
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    I think this is just what TDL needs as well. (especially in fantasyland and tomorrowland!)

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  • disneyencore
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    The new Tiki room is about as annoying a show that could be possible. Please have them bring back the old show that's in California.

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  • chris2fett
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by dland_lover View Post
    Me thinks this is what they were going for, and not the kids' tv channel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_(movie_theater)
    I was referring to these old time movie machines, which used to be located in the now-extinct Main Street Penny Arcade. Some have been moved to the WDW Railroad, the ones seen here at at Disney's Boardwalk:

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  • dland_lover
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by Casey Jr View Post
    Also, why Nickelodian in the cinema?...
    Me thinks this is what they were going for, and not the kids' tv channel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_(movie_theater)

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  • Casey Jr
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    There isn't room for Poohs Hunny Hunt in the current building, the only way that could clone it to magic kingdom would be if the replaced the current pooh with... Mr. Toads, and built Poohs Hunny Hunt across the way in the old 2000 leagues filled up lagoon.
    Also, why Nickelodian in the cinema?...

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  • MarkTwain
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    I MUCH prefer the 10-year refurbishment. In fact, I think it's exactly what MK needs right now - that list should be a little "to-do" list for the parks...

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  • stitchrulz
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by daannzzz View Post
    Aside form the Pooh's Hunny Hunt they should be doing all of that stuff anyway...and adding an attraction or three, including a couple of E-Tickets.
    This is exactly what I was thinking while I was reading this thread. Most of this would just be regular maintenance and upgrading: Painting, powerwashing, upgrade to LEDs (Disney should be all for this since they are trying to be all "green" and stuff), roof repairs, etc.

    They should be able to maintain the park AND add some new major attractions every few years.

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  • KISSman
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    I have to say that I'm sticking with spending the money on expansion and new attractions. I'm not saying there aren't some things I really like on the Upgrade List, but to me, MK has evolved the least of the 4 parks over the last 20 years and some new additions would give me a renewed hope for the park's future. For MK to have a bright future, it's not dusting off existing things and slapping some paint on them but breaking new ground and making new things.

    Of the long upgrade list, the only thing I find to be a critical upgrade is the the conversion of the Tiki Room back to the original. Like I said, I like some of the other ideas, but I don't really feel that most of them are essential. But if it were a choice of nothing vs. upgrades, I'm all for spending the money on almost all those things. However, I'd still rather spend the money on new projects rather than old ones.

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  • dead_Mau5
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    I approve this thread!:thumbup:

    Long have I pondered why MK is the most visited of the hub-n-stokes parks yet it is the least maintenanced and upheld.

    Now for the upgrade list, Snow White and Small World are refurbished to modern standard and Splash receives the advanced braking system of its Tokyo cousin.So now riders are truly splashed outside the summer months rather than drenched.

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  • chris2fett
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    Re: What if there were NO new Magic Kingdom attractions?

    Originally posted by Angie_Duke View Post
    I'd take list 2, even I if strongly doubt there is space for Pooh's Hunny Hunt. However upgrades to that ride's special FX (and Peter Pan's and Jungle Cruise's too!) would be wonderful.

    Can I add having at least one not overpriced/character dining option at Cinderella's Royal Table? Dinner may not be a "character meal" in the full sense but paying $43 for a fixed meal with a unnecessary "show" and photo package is very unappealing to me.
    In my original post above, I'm thinking that the Adventureland Veranda, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS but has been closed for some time, could be readily converted into a character dining meet-and-greet.

    I'm adding ideas here as people bring them up.

    Wouldn't it be GREAT if somehow we could get such a list, like a petition, the the heads at WDW? It would probably have to be championed by the likes of Lassiter to really get it going, however. Fat chance he'll ever see such a post or read such a letter.

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  • GraceysGirl
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    I'm going with the majority here. Fix what we've got. I've been 3 times this year and I don't feel like I need new rides to enjoy my time there.

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  • kcnole
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    I've pretty much been asking for this for a while. Don't add anything new, just make everything that's there pristine and top of the line like it once was. Its the same response when someone brings up a new park. I don't want a new park while the 4 we have are in terrible shape. Bring all 4 up to the point where they can't really be improved anymore, then consider a new park.

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