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  • [Question] Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

    I think I've asked this about DL's version...(which still confuses me)

    But, is WDW'S version the same story?

    Let me see if I have this right (I'm sure I don't)

    Master Gracey owns the house. He married Constance...who had a long track record of giving her wealthy husbands tremendously severe haircuts. She offs Gracey. She turns into the old woman seen in the stretching room portrait.

    Is that right?

    And here's where the big confusion comes in...

    Who is Leota? Who is the Ghost Host? Who is the Hatbox Ghost?

    Do all the other many characters have a story?






  • #2
    Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

    Well don't take my word as authority on the subject, but I have always believed that, Gracey is the owner and he is the Ghost Host and he hung himself, which we see at the very end of the pre-show.

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    • #3
      Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

      Leota is the channeler in the seance room.

      The Ghost Host is of course your narrator... if that is Master Gracey or not is debated.

      The Hat Box Ghost is just one of the resident ghosts..

      Hop into one of the HM threads here (there is always one long run running) and the HM fanatics will answer all the dirty details.

      Most of the HM story is hobbled together - it doesn't have one large cohesive story line, but rather several smaller ones that don't necessarily intersect.

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      • #4
        Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

        thanks FLynn. I don't think the WDW forum has a HM thread.....or is DL's story the same?



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        • #5
          Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

          Originally posted by Stitchy View Post
          thanks FLynn. I don't think the WDW forum has a HM thread.....or is DL's story the same?
          Each has different elements... some in or not... but they don't differ in those story slices. Just some of the 'clues' or 'evidence' to support the theories aren't always in both HMs.

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          • #6
            Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

            oh okay. So...the bride with the beating heart....that's Constance, right?



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            • #7
              Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

              Originally posted by Stitchy View Post
              oh okay. So...the bride with the beating heart....that's Constance, right?
              Typically she is not considered to be the same.

              You're never going to find any straight answers because there are none. There is no set story. The deepest it really goes is that the manor is a retirement home for ghosts. Master Gracey just comes from one of the tribute tombstones and is often considered a misreading of the title "Master".

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              • #8
                Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                lazyboy970, flynnibus, and Stitchy are correct. There is NO STORYLINE to the Haunted Mansion. It's a retirement home for ghosts. That's it. As flynnibus said, some scenes have a backstory, but there is no story for the entire mansion that ties everything together. Stitchy hit the nail on the head with the bride... that's really the only "story" that WDI acknowledges exists. Anything else you hear is made up by the Cast. In fact, WDI will actually go to lengths to prove otherwise in rare circumstances. They have actually removed the bride's "ring" which was part of a made-up story by the Cast. And WDI has insisted that Master Gracey is NOT your Ghost Host... to the point that when a temporary closed sign was made for WDW's mansion, WDI had a fit when it was signed "Master Gracey- Your Ghost Host," They actually approved a budget to REMOVE the text. That proves beyond a doubt that they are two separate ghosts.
                -Bill

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                • #9
                  Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                  ah...thank you, Bill.

                  So, it seems...there is no real story..just the one made up by the public. And even that one...is cloudy, at best.



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                  • #10
                    Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                    Originally posted by Stitchy View Post
                    ah...thank you, Bill.

                    So, it seems...there is no real story..just the one made up by the public. And even that one...is cloudy, at best.

                    There is a "real" story and the story did have something to do with the ring that used to be in the ground near the Mansion. It also isn't all made up by the cast- Disney accepts the storyline and runs with it. For example, the recent 40th for Mansion event. Each Mansion around the globe has a clear and definite storyline with all being very similar.

                    Here's a cool website to check out filled with "lore":

                    Welcome, Foolish Mortals... to DoomBuggies - a Tribute to Disney's Haunted Mansion > Free email, fan forums, multimedia and more...

                    one hundred and one

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                    • #11
                      Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                      Sorry Scott, you've been misled. The only "Mansion" that has an actual storyline is Phantom Manor in Paris. Anything else you've heard regarding storyline, including all the stuff on Doombuggies.com, is indeed, made up. Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble.

                      The Mansion was originally created in a time where Disney did theming for the rides... not actual storylines. The age of story didn't come till later.

                      You can believe whatever made-up story you come up with. That's part of the charm of the mansion, since there is no story, you can make up whatever story you want with your imagination! (As many CMs have done, and Doombuggies.com has run with.)
                      -Bill

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                      • #12
                        Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                        I'm pretty sure Bill has got it right- there's no set storyline for the mansion.

                        The 40th anniversary stuff at DL was set up by merchandising, and they seem to make stuff up as they go along.

                        Since they added in Constance that has changed a bit. We know she's a black widow bride, she's had 5 husbands (who all resemble the men in stretching portraits, but this is probably just a homage) and she's decapitated them all. Her marriage certificates are only in the WDW mansion but all state California as the location of marriages. They were/will be going to tie in the Hat Box Ghost as the 6th husband, since hey, lots of people want him back, and he just happens to be decapitated too. The fact she has a deeper story makes her not quite fit in the mansion, in my opinion.

                        As for Master Gracey, it seems WDI does not want him associated with the Ghost Host. Somewhere buried in the "Long Forgotten HM Effect" thread I'm pretty sure there is documentation of a letter posted outside the DL mansion explaining a closure or something. It was signed something to the effect of "Master Gracey, Your Ghost Host." Within a day or two, the all traces of the "Master Gracey" part was removed.

                        To me the beauty of the mansion is that for the guest there is no definite story, yet there's the feeling of history throughout which truly sparks the imagination.

                        *Bill, I just noticed you mentioned the Master Gracey -Ghost host sign, too. I somehow missed that. Sorry for inadvertently trying to steal your thunder :blush: *
                        Last edited by Semiquaver; 02-06-2010, 11:13 AM.
                        "The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing" -Walt Disney

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                        • #13
                          Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                          ok..so there IS a story with Phantom Manor? what is it?



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                          • #14
                            Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                            According to Tony Baxter. The Ghost Host is Master Gracey. In a video TB claims that in the WDW version, you see master Gracey's portrait, then you enter the stretching room and see him hanging at the top, then he becomes a poltergeist and narrates the rest of the ride.

                            Watch the video where he says it below.

                            DoomBuggies > Explore the history and marvel at the mystery of Disney's Haunted Mansion attractions!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Confused about Haunted Mansion Story

                              Phantom Manor lies in Frontierland and is intrinsically linked to Big Thunder Mountain, which itself is a part of Thunder Mesa.
                              Originally posted by The Haunted Mansion: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies, by Jason Surrell

                              Thunder Mesa

                              According to legend, there was gold in that thar mountain, [Big Thunder Mountain] and industrial baron Henry Ravenswood struck it rich, and a boom town sprung up around his mining operation, creating the dusty streets and sunbaked wooden buildings of Frontierland in the process. The story's craggy mountain range and the labyrinthine gold mine within set the stage for the runaway trains of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad; and, as fate would have it, Henry Ravenswood would also provide a home for Phantom Manor ... literally.

                              The Legend of Phantom Manor
                              Last edited by Semiquaver; 02-06-2010, 11:18 AM.
                              "The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing" -Walt Disney

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