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  • Yackerz
    started a topic [Question] Hopper or Sipper pass?

    Hopper or Sipper pass?

    I have read someone's quote that WDW is to be sipped slowly not gulped. Hopper passes can make gulping a possibility. haha It can also make sipping easier as well as you can go from one park to another sipping out what you want to do there and places you want to eat there. However, with the hopper also comes the tendency to take advantage of EMH at parks when another park would be closing. Here is my area of uncertainty:

    I have 4 days to spend at the parks next summer June or July. Actually about 3 and a half.
    2 FULL days. 1/2 day plus any EMH. Then maybe 3/4ths of a day the last day we are there before we drive to Ocala, FL to visit my wife's sisters.

    I have devised 2 plans. One involves getting a hopper pass. The other does not.

    Plan 1: Hopper pass
    Day 1 Monday:
    1st night times approximate.
    Check into WL or Dolphin approx. 3:00.
    Head to Magic Kingdom.
    Eat Dinner at Columbia Harbor House or Pecco's.
    Stay at MK till close at 11:00

    Day 2 Tuesday:
    9:00 arrival at AK.
    (ride Everest, Dinosaur, Kali' rapids, Safari') <-- no part order.
    Head to Epcot by 2:00
    (Ride space earth, test track, maelstrom, gran fiesta.) <-- definitely
    (if time: soarin', living with the land, mission space)
    Le Cellier dinner at 5:30
    Spend rest of the night there see Illuminations
    stay for EMH if they are there on Tuesday.

    Day 3 Wednesday:
    Arrive at 9:00 opening at MK
    Ride as much as we can throughout the day. If we get tired, hop to another park at some point.

    Day 4: DHS
    Arrive at DHS around 10:00
    Stay at DHS till around dinner time (Yes, I have no desire to see Fantasmic!)
    Hop to any park, if we get bored, before 3:00. (I'll have a car to make hopping quicker)

    ((((Alternate option and one I've actually was leaning to before... switch DHS and AK. Start the day at DHS then hop to Epcot rather than AK to Epcot.) DHS has only like 3 attractions that really interest me: Great movie ride, rock n roller coaster, and Toy Story. (I been on ToT twice before and I've had enough of it !)


    Plan 2: No hopper pass Saves me $100
    Day 1 Monday:
    First night dependent on what park has EMH.
    Whatever park has EMH go to around 4:00 giving me more of a 1/2 day in the park.
    If MK does have EMH, that does mean I'd be there till 2:00 AM!

    Day 2 Tuesday:
    If day 1 was AK or DHS, then Day 2 will be Epcot arriving about 10:00 and staying till close.
    If day 1 was MK or Epcot, Day 2 will be AK. Then relaxation!

    Day 3: Wednesday
    Magic Kingdom From 9:00 till they close it

    Day 4: Thursday about 2/3rds of a day till dinner time.
    DHS or AK whichever wasn't done already.



    The problem with the second plan is advanced dining reservations.
    I may have to schedule the same one for 2 days, then cancel one of them. Example 1) Prime time cafe for dinner on Monday and lunch on Thursday in case I go to DHS Monday or Thursday dependent on EMH.
    Example 2.) Day 2: 50% chance it will be Epcot dependent on EMH. I can take a whim and make it Le Cellier for dinner.
    Example 3.) MK will likely be Day 3 so I can make dining options there at Be Our Guest and/or Liberty Tree


    I could also add the hopper option later if I feel the need. I don't know if its worth it though *shrugs*.
    Last edited by Yackerz; 07-20-2010, 07:25 AM.

  • Yackerz
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    not sure of the heat. I'm thinking if I don't sip I'll die of exhaustion in 4 days.
    2 days at MK and Epcot alone will prob be super tiring let alone a night at AK and half a day at DHS. Of course in my most recent trip, I did do a full day at king's island, a day a night at cedar point, and a full day at Cedar point. We were definitely tired after that.

    Since I'll only be at the park 2 full days and 2 partial days to spend $100 (for 2 people) to hop around once or twice doesn't seem justifiable to me. especially when there is a possibility that I won't feel the need to hop at all because I'll be dead tired lol.
    Last edited by Yackerz; 07-26-2010, 11:32 AM.

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  • Yackerz
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    Good thoughts nib Yes, you are seeing the dilemma in my mind. Part of me wants to see it all (or at least all of what I want), part of me wants to just relax. That is the dilemma. If I can take a road in the middle that would probably be best. See all the attractions I want and some others and some twice.

    I'm going to leave the 2 full days to Epcot and MK since those are the biggest parks. Preferably put Epcot on the day it has EMH to extend the day if I need it.

    If I get bored at a park and still have energy, I could always visit some of the resorts / downtown Disney / the Boardwalk Area / upgrade for a hopper I guess!

    Also, I didn't mention recently that the first day when we are going to the parks we'll be arriving at around 3:00 to 4:00 due to the nature of getting a flight in the morning and checking in at our hotel.
    EMH at a park would be nice that night or just going to MK since it closes at 11:00 (then I'd probably want a hopper to go back to MK some other time)

    Checkout Animal Kingdom's EMH:
    Parks Hours | Calendars | Walt Disney World Resort

    First week in August, the EMH only go till 10 though. Today they are open till 11:00.

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  • SummerInFL
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    Really? I thought they just upgraded the difference based on the time you had left on a ticket. Huh. Learn something new everyday.

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  • flynnibus
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    Good thoughts..

    the EMH could save you there.. DAK till 11pm? Is that really correct? I thought EMH only took it till like 9pm. That place will be deserted! It normally is by the end of a normal day.

    If the $$ keeps coming up as an issue.. and this is your first trip. My feedback to you would be simply 'slow it down' and enjoy the sights. It's impossible to see all that WDW has to offer in even a 7 day trip... so don't worry about seeing everything and just make sure you enjoy the time you do have.

    Since you do seem to be price conscious.. I would just accept that and enjoy the time you do have. Don't park hop (which reduces need for a car), and just soak in each park and take your time.

    I think that is going to dictate your trip.. are you going to try to go commando and see as much as possible... or are you going to sit back, relax, and enjoy the finer details?

    If you can settle that question in your mind... just commit to the path.

    You started this thread with trying to fit the most in... if that's truely the path you want to take.. then say screw it to the smaller details (like a little more cash) and go for it But that certainly is a different style of visiting the parks. You will see the marque attractions, but you will miss all the details.

    There is no harm in 'not seeing all the parks' - that just leaves more for next time

    Me personally... I like having flexibility, so I pay for the hopping privileged. Plus, I really enjoy the MK at night. I'd be bummed if I went to DAK in the morning, did the whole day, and then had to just hang out at the hotel at night because I got bored at DAK by 8pm.

    If I only had two days and didn't want to pay for park hopping.. I'd probably do MK and EPCOT. Mainly because both those parks can easily fill up a full day... they have more attractions (if you are the type that are opposed to trying to see all the shows) and they simply have most of the classic Disney experiences.

    I'd sacrifice DHS and DAK and the water parks to a future trip. It's that, or pay for hopping and go commando and try to see the attractions you want while missing the details.

    It's a hard call.. I mean on our last trip we hit DHS on three different days! The kids liked that park so much.. but it was low impact for us because we'd go, do what we want, then left.

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  • Yackerz
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    Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
    Can you upgrade though at a cheap price?

    Won't he have to pay the price of the full duration ticket to upgrade? I don't think you can fractionally upgrade a ticket.. even on the residual part.

    My problem with no park hopping is mainly centered around the early closing times of the other parks. If all the parks were open to 10pm or so I think I would feel differently.

    Just having the option to finish the night at MK is worth the $ IMHO.
    Your helping to sort my mind out with this issue. Ya fractionally upgrading a park hopper would be nice, but I'm pretty sure you have to pay the full park hopper price regardless approx. $110 (which is a rip off!)
    I could just pick the parks that have EMH that evening currently if I do a 4 day trip Monday - Thursday

    At Animal Kingdom EMH at night are Monday taking the park closing till 11:00
    At Epcot EMH are Tuesday taking the park closing till 12:00
    Wednesday I could just go to MK till it closes at 11:00
    Thursday at DHS, I was planning to stay till only dinner time at the latest. (this day I'll be traveling to my wife's sisters in Ocala, FL after the day at Disney).
    Of course, I could scramble this schedule completely up by park hopping.

    Also, of the EMH night hours are changed to different days I could rearrange my days at the parks to match the EMH. The only thing that is shot though is reserved dining locations.

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  • Mouse princess
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    Summer- that won't happen. If you upgrade your ticket, it has to be for the full duration of the ticket. Meaning, if you have a 4 day pass and used 3 days, if you upgrade on the last day you have to pay for upgrading all 4 days. Not just one day.

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  • flynnibus
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    Can you upgrade though at a cheap price?

    Won't he have to pay the price of the full duration ticket to upgrade? I don't think you can fractionally upgrade a ticket.. even on the residual part.

    My problem with no park hopping is mainly centered around the early closing times of the other parks. If all the parks were open to 10pm or so I think I would feel differently.

    Just having the option to finish the night at MK is worth the $ IMHO.

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  • SummerInFL
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    Originally posted by Yackerz View Post
    Good opinion. My only concern is the time it takes to hop from one park to another. I know I can prob get from one disney park to another in about 40 minutes tops since I know all the shortcuts. (see my thread on transportation optimization). However, you hop about 4 times and that kills like 4 hours out of your trip.

    You would advise leaving MK midway through the day because of it being crowded and going to a less crowded park like AK? / DHS? Would you then advise returning back to MK at night?
    I know they tell you to allow an hour for park hopping, but really, with your own car, it takes 15-30 minutes max for us to get to another park.

    My suggestion? Use the 1st few days as a non-park hopper, then the last day upgrade it and knock out DHS/AK on the same day, that way it won't be $100 more since you are only upgrading one day and you get to do everything you wanted.

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  • Mouse princess
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    I personally prefer not to hop. But I know many here like to park hop. I think you spend too much time commuting between parks. I plan my vacations looking at the schedules and making ADR for the day I plan to be at that 1 park, and just spend the whole day there.

    You can make as many dining reservations for each day you want. Like Day 1, make a dining reservation for both DHS and AK and MK, and when the park hours are available, just cancel the ones you don't need. I do this all the time. I will make dining ressies, and then check repeatedly to get the better ones or the better times f I didn't have it already. Just make sure to cancel the ressies you don't need so that someone else can grab them. But I am very scheduled.

    I also travel with yound kids, so park hopping becomes a bit hectic. Its easier for me to stay at 1 park for the day. It also saves me $$ which I rather use towards souveniers for the kids or a good meal.

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  • jonyyeh
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    Originally posted by Bill View Post
    Umm, no Tower of Terror at DHS? Come on! It's better than the DCA version in many aspects! You should do it, and it rarely has a wait at night.
    Well, with the current Summer Nightastic version at DHS, I feel DCA now has the better version story wise and effects wise. But of course, the 5th Dimension portion is still stronger at DHS, and it is likely once the 5th Dimension scene is returned to its full glory that DHS will once again have the best version again.

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  • Bill
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    Umm, no Tower of Terror at DHS? Come on! It's better than the DCA version in many aspects! You should do it, and it rarely has a wait at night.

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  • TriSarahtops
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    I don't think using a park hopper will increase your walking.... You are either walking miles and miles through the same park all day.... or walking miles and miles in two different parks.

    And I honestly feel that having hoppers gives you much more time; you can see more and do more

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  • flynnibus
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    There is no minimizing walking in a WDW vacation.. you walk miles every day

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  • Yackerz
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    ya tough choices for me! I don't know which way I'll decide to go. If I am going to hop, I will need to plan out my hopping wisely not haphazardly which could lead to more frustration than anything. Plus I don't want to walk a ton more than I need to as hopping would require us to do. It would also eat up more time riding the Disney transportation.

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  • sleepyjeff
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    I prefer to sip.......although if riding the WDW Bus system several extra hours on your vacation(and paying extra for that privilege) is your cup of tea, more power to you.

    The original quote that the OP is referring to was about Disneyland and her horde of AP holders....but the author(me) likes that the phrase is getting traction in other forms

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  • TriSarahtops
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    Originally posted by Yackerz View Post
    That is true.. Hopper provides a nice escape route for you.

    Are night time EMH worth leaving the current park and going to ? For example spend most of the day in MK. Then Epcot has EMH. Go there for the evening.

    Are the crowds generally lighter in DHS on non-Fantasmic days and non-EMH days?
    What about Epcot? Is it packed when there are EMH there at night or what about MK being packed at night because of EMH?
    So many questions.. haha sorry!
    Depending on what time parks close EMH could be worth it... If you are in AK (which usually closes much earlier than the other parks (before dark)...depending on time of year) then Yeah, it's worth hopping to an EMH park to get in as much as possible. I rarely take advantage of EMH though, just depends on the time of year and how late they go. We are more apt to do early EMH.

    I'd say Yes, crowds are lighter on non fantasmic days, but during fantasmic the park seems empty (again--depends when you go) And, yes, Parks can be more crowded during evening EMH

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  • Yackerz
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    Re: Hopper or Sipper pass?

    That is true.. Hopper provides a nice escape route for you.

    Are night time EMH worth leaving the current park and going to ? For example spend most of the day in MK. Then Epcot has EMH. Go there for the evening.

    Are the crowds generally lighter in DHS on non-Fantasmic days and non-EMH days?
    What about Epcot? Is it packed when there are EMH there at night or what about MK being packed at night because of EMH?
    So many questions.. haha sorry!

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  • TriSarahtops
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    Originally posted by Yackerz View Post
    You would advise leaving MK midway through the day because of it being crowded and going to a less crowded park like AK? / DHS? Would you then advise returning back to MK at night?
    If you start feeling like MK is too crowded for you taste, then yes I'd say "Hop away" And Returning to MK would just depend on the day, Hours (EMH?) and crowd levels.

    Ive never thought that we've lost any time due to hopping...Sure there can be transit issues, but really its pretty easy to get from park to park.

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  • Yackerz
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    Good opinion. My only concern is the time it takes to hop from one park to another. I know I can prob get from one disney park to another in about 40 minutes tops since I know all the shortcuts. (see my thread on transportation optimization). However, you hop about 4 times and that kills like 4 hours out of your trip.

    You would advise leaving MK midway through the day because of it being crowded and going to a less crowded park like AK? / DHS? Would you then advise returning back to MK at night?

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