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  • #41
    Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

    Originally posted by SAV View Post
    How can you give a thumbs down to AK? I guess if you are a person who wants to run through and do rides, you may not "get" what AK is all about. It isn't about rides. It's a place to slow down and appreciate the beauty of the park. If you just run through from ride to ride, you miss out on De Vine, the monkeys, the whole front of the park with the animals and their keepers, the detail in the lands. AK isn't all about the attractions.

    But the sooner you leave, the less crowded it is for me...so Thanks!!!.
    Originally posted by SummerInFL View Post
    You're breaking my heart MP. I LOVE DAK, but I'm an animal person. I think it boils down to the kind of park goer you are.
    Actually I am not a person that goes just for the rides. I am the person who goes in to take everything in. I love to sit on a bench, drink a cup of coffee and people watch. I love to walk around and look at everything. This is why I was at WDW even when I was 7 1/2 months pregnant and would not ride the rides. Because it is not about the rides.
    I have 2 problems with AK
    1-It is just too hot. Everytime I have gone to AK- it was unbearably hot. Seriously. I can never take it. There is very little places to find there to cool off.
    2-Chester and Hester area. Can't stand it.

    My favorite attractions at Animal Kingdom is Flights of Wonder. A terrific show. I always went to AK- but its totally losts it appeal to me.
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    • #42
      Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

      Originally posted by wumbology View Post

      I agree with a water ride for Canada. Not rapids, we have those in DAK. Not Brother Bear, that movie hasn't exactly stuck around.
      The Log ride for Canada, was one, that I was always crossing my fingers would make it out of development... but at least it was in development... dang you Project Gemini!!
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      • #43
        Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

        Well, I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread, but here it goes.

        Hmmm... on another note, I was thinking of something Hunchback that would have a lot more relevance to France. I've said before in another thread that I'm not fond of movie characters in the WS, but I do think this would work well enough for the WS without really disturbing it's theme too much.

        For a concept, I was wondering if it would be neat for the 3 gargoyles from Hunchback to do an interactive show of types on Notre Dame, somewhat like Turtle Talk but with much more theming. The show would be set inside a replica of the bell tower of Notre Dame, and there would be different screens placed around the room to where the trio (Victor, Hugo, and Laverne) could talk about the history of Notre Dame and some of the bells and such. This would be relevant to modern times, and the gargoyles could even use modern objects, as people age, and statues do not. (Well, at least not much.)

        Questions, comments, concerns?

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        • #44
          Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

          Originally posted by BANANAZ View Post
          Well, I accidentally posted this in the wrong thread, but here it goes.

          Hmmm... on another note, I was thinking of something Hunchback that would have a lot more relevance to France. I've said before in another thread that I'm not fond of movie characters in the WS, but I do think this would work well enough for the WS without really disturbing it's theme too much.

          For a concept, I was wondering if it would be neat for the 3 gargoyles from Hunchback to do an interactive show of types on Notre Dame, somewhat like Turtle Talk but with much more theming. The show would be set inside a replica of the bell tower of Notre Dame, and there would be different screens placed around the room to where the trio (Victor, Hugo, and Laverne) could talk about the history of Notre Dame and some of the bells and such. This would be relevant to modern times, and the gargoyles could even use modern objects, as people age, and statues do not. (Well, at least not much.)

          Questions, comments, concerns?
          I could see it as a very brief experience as part of a greater addition, but I don't think that's enough for any kind of substantial experience. The history of Notre Dame is fascinating, but I don't see it working for an entire attraction. Not to mention it's hard enough to get people to ask questions about fish in Turtle Talk, I don't even want to think about trying to quiz people about French architectural history.
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          • #45
            Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

            Originally posted by BANANAZ View Post
            Hmmm... on another note, I was thinking of something Hunchback that would have a lot more relevance to France. I've said before in another thread that I'm not fond of movie characters in the WS, but I do think this would work well enough for the WS without really disturbing it's theme too much.
            I think, of all of Disney's franchises that are related to France, Hunchback is the best suited, because it is based on a well-known French story and takes place in a landmark of Paris.
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            • #46
              Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

              I put some quick thought into this after reading the title of this thread...when I think about it, I wouldnt mind new rides or attractions that are small in scale but anything major like a roller coaster or a thrill ride would just be way too much for an area that is mostly devoted to atmosphere experience.

              Perhaps there shouldnt be anything crazier than a Maelstrom ride in the World Showcase. I'd rather that money be spent on new country pavilions.

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              • #47
                Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

                I originally thought of posting something about how much I dislike the term E-ticket. Since the ticket book was replaced with general admission, these classifications have become rather subjective and ambiguous, but perhaps that is a topic for another thread.

                As for world showcase getting more ride type attractions, I am hard pressed to find a reason not to. After all, the park is already at least two attractions (Germany and Japan) short of even its own opening expectations. I understand why these were cut then. Budget cuts and deadlines can sneak up on a project like that, but The Walt Disney Company is quite a bit more stable than it was in 1982 and there's no reason why at least Germany's attraction would still remain unfinished. At least that building is the right size, unlike Japan's. You would think that the company would be slightly embarrassed by these unfinished attractions, especially when even a little research on the internet turns these projects up.

                I think it would be fitting for each country to have a true attraction of its own. There are people who only care about rides and adding attractions is a way to get them to spend more time and money in those pavilions instead of sprinting from Norway to The American Adventure, then catching the boat back to Future World in time to use their Test Track fastpasses. However, attractions involving Disney animated properties is not the way I would like to see this happen. As much as I would love the return of Mr. Toad's Wild ride, I think placing it in the UK pavilion is antithetical to the original theme of not only World Showcase, but all Disney Parks in general.

                World Showcase is supposed to be a place for member countries to showcase their unique culture and heritage. Cartoon themed rides would change that thesis to, "Disney is all over the world," which not only makes Disney look like some massive empire but also diminishes the actual cultures of these many diverse lands.

                By all means Disney should add more countries and build more attractions, but let them have their own identities. Then if people get interested enough in these other cultures to see them first hand, Disney can sell them Vacation Club properties all over the world. See, there's still a way to make money off it.
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                • #48
                  Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

                  Originally posted by Dapper Dan View Post
                  I originally thought of posting something about how much I dislike the term E-ticket. Since the ticket book was replaced with general admission, these classifications have become rather subjective and ambiguous, but perhaps that is a topic for another thread.

                  As for world showcase getting more ride type attractions, I am hard pressed to find a reason not to. After all, the park is already at least two attractions (Germany and Japan) short of even its own opening expectations. I understand why these were cut then. Budget cuts and deadlines can sneak up on a project like that, but The Walt Disney Company is quite a bit more stable than it was in 1982 and there's no reason why at least Germany's attraction would still remain unfinished. At least that building is the right size, unlike Japan's. You would think that the company would be slightly embarrassed by these unfinished attractions, especially when even a little research on the internet turns these projects up.

                  I think it would be fitting for each country to have a true attraction of its own. There are people who only care about rides and adding attractions is a way to get them to spend more time and money in those pavilions instead of sprinting from Norway to The American Adventure, then catching the boat back to Future World in time to use their Test Track fastpasses. However, attractions involving Disney animated properties is not the way I would like to see this happen. As much as I would love the return of Mr. Toad's Wild ride, I think placing it in the UK pavilion is antithetical to the original theme of not only World Showcase, but all Disney Parks in general.

                  World Showcase is supposed to be a place for member countries to showcase their unique culture and heritage. Cartoon themed rides would change that thesis to, "Disney is all over the world," which not only makes Disney look like some massive empire but also diminishes the actual cultures of these many diverse lands.

                  By all means Disney should add more countries and build more attractions, but let them have their own identities. Then if people get interested enough in these other cultures to see them first hand, Disney can sell them Vacation Club properties all over the world. See, there's still a way to make money off it.
                  Nice post, I agree with all of this.

                  The only time we spend any real time in world showcase is during the food and wine festival. Otherwise it's margarita, maelstrom, and...oh yeah we're done. I think a nice dark ride would do a lot to get people at that end of the park. As has been stated, it would need to be (enter country here)-themed, and not Disney cartoonish.

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                  • #49
                    Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

                    I wouldn't say E-tickets

                    But an issue is that the only two rides are next door to each other, which can be frustrating to parents with restless children.

                    I would say the rapid ride at Canada is a bad idea since a ride that soaks you is probably the least likely ride most guest of World Shocase would want, that might be best suited elsewhere

                    And a simply carbon copy of Mr Toad for England might be better reinvented as the host on a crazy tour of England in his new Motor Car.

                    So both facets win kids get their character and adults can "learn"

                    The same could be done for France with Remy or a trip thru the sewers on a dark water ride (but not soaking ride)

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                    I never understood why there wasnt a gondola ride in Italy or even Gondolas rides onto the lake for a premium price

                    I would stay away from high speed thrill rides, or staff up on custodial with some guest desire to "drink around the world"

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                    • #50
                      Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

                      I am going to stand by what I said earlier, and that I feel that any attraction that goes in to WS should be an original story, and not based on any Intellectual Property.
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                      • #51
                        Re: Should there be major E-Ticket attractions in World Showcase?

                        Its interesting that Eticket seems to imply to many a huge intrusive thrill ride of some sort. I also am a bit confused as to how Maelstrom fits into the Cticket category when it stands well above Ctickets in most other parks. Heck if it weren't so short and falling a little flat in the second act I'd label it an Eticket.

                        I think I'll mostly side with those who don't want cartoon characters in the World Showcase though. I wouldn't mind less realism more exploration of myths or other cultural ideas but I wouldn't want to see it disneyfied at least not in the traditional since. Something like the Sinbad ride from TDS almost seems like it could fit? I definitely think another attraction or two SHOULD hit the World Showcase if only to counterbalance Maelstrom and Grand Fiesta Tour. I wouldn't even care if it was a thrill ride as long as it fit naturally with its setting and didn't stand out and destroy the present feeling of the World Showcase.

                        A raft ride in Canada sounds GREAT to me as long as they make it feel sufficiently Canadian and avoid making it feel like a retread of other raft rides. I respect the cultural exhibits of the World Showcase but also see that it is so large that at least in a few spots they could expand out and have both. Maybe even get the ride focused people to realize how nifty some of the exhibits really are. I think alot of the film stuff can go as most of it doesn't feel that special anymore.
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