Announcement

Collapse

Your Assistance Please

We need your help to battle spammers and also to keep our community user friendly.
PLEASE BE KIND TO OTHERS - Refrain from personal attacks. Avoid politics and harsh language whenever possible. If someone is violating our simple rules, DO NOT confront them, simply report the post.
STOP SPAMMERS - Report the post. DO NOT respond to them.

2017 is a year of renewal for us, we have lots of exciting changes on the way for you, but we don't have time to deal with trolls and spammers. If you find yourself suspended and need to plead your case, you will need to do so after your suspension. We are happy to address your concerns if you made a simple mistake. However, please note that those with a history of bad behavior and pushing our rules to the limit will not be given the courtesy of a reply.

MiceChat offers a number of ways for you to communicate and get involved. We offer Facebook Groups and Pages, Twitter, Instagram and Pinterest accounts. We have a front page filled with amazing content. We offer weekly meetups in the parks. Meets and events all over the world. Podcasts and videos. And we continue to maintain forums for your posting convenience. But with all those options, we can't be everywhere all the time. We need YOUR help. Please don't poke the trolls. Report posts and leave reputation. We'll do our best to keep the forums clean and active, but we can't do so without your help.

Thank you for your support folks, it's going to be a really fantastic year in the MiceChat world.
See more
See less

High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

Collapse

Ad Widget

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • News High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

    Governor Scott has rejected the federal money, so there will be no high speed rail in Florida from Orlando to Tampa.

    Would you have taken that train rather than renting a car? Would it have made you more likely to visit Tampa (Busch Gardens?)

    Academic questions now... the project is dead.
    Kevin Yee
    MiceAge Columnist

    I am the author of several Disney books:
    Jason's Disneyland Almanac - a daily history of Disneyland
    Walt Disney World Hidden History - tributes, homages, and ride remnants at WDW
    Your Day at the Magic Kingdom
    Mouse Trap
    Tokyo Disney Made Easy
    101 Things You Never Knew About Disneyland
    Magic Quizdom (The Disneyland Trivia Book)

    The press [should be] a watchdog. Not an attack dog. Not a lapdog. A watchdog. Now, a watchdog can't be right all the time. He doesn't bark only when he sees or smells something that's dangerous. A good watchdog barks at things that are suspicious. Dan Rather

  • #2
    Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

    What a shame, California will take the money.

    Wisconsin and Ohio pulled the same thing and the money was redistributed here.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

      This is good news. The federal government should not exist to subsidize tourist travel in Florida. Those standing to benefit most from the rail are the land-owning state legislators, who have been fighting for years over various types of rail that would boost their own property value. As for the rest of us Floridians, we like our cars, if not for being able to listen to the radio, eat fast food, and smoke while we travel, then simply because we can have air-conditioning as we go from place to place rather than walk as pedestrians from the train station to our destinations (see Miami as an example of failed rail transit in Florida, used mostly by the students at UM). Anyone who has tried Mears knows that taxis are not a viable option.
      Ludwig von Baroketch
      sigpic
      Kapellmeister, Gracey Estate

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

        America is Carsland. ...sad really.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

          Originally posted by TimmyTimmyTimmy View Post
          America is Carsland. ...sad really.
          Take a look at what we're doing in California, it might surprise you:
          http://micechat.com/forums/so-cal-tr...nd-resort.html


          Predecessor Started 10-21-05:
          http://micechat.com/forums/disneylan...nd-resort.html

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

            Originally posted by KevinYee View Post
            Governor Scott has rejected the federal money, so there will be no high speed rail in Florida from Orlando to Tampa.

            Would you have taken that train rather than renting a car? .
            Absolutely, I don't want to worry about a rental car when I'm on vacation, where to park, do we need gas, it gets 100 degrees sitting in the sun all day. Versus a bullet train? I've always wanted to see Miami, but it's not exactly next to Orlando, if they made that connection, the whole idea of a Florida vacation split between Miami and Orlando just got more appealing.

            Originally posted by KevinYee View Post
            Would it have made you more likely to visit Tampa (Busch Gardens?)
            I've been to Tampa, I've been to Busch Gardens. But I'd use it to go to the white sand Gulf Coast beaches. Are they still pristine or did the BP Horizon destroy the whole Gulf Coast?

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

              Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
              What a shame, California will take the money.
              It is not a shame, it is the best thing to happen to high speed rail in this country. The Tampa-Orlando route has very little existing demand and expensive high speed technology would have offered almost no gains over the highway or a conventional rail line. An expensive to build and operate train with no riders is not going win people over to the idea of high speed rail.

              Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
              I've been to Tampa, I've been to Busch Gardens. But I'd use it to go to the white sand Gulf Coast beaches.
              With no transit system existing or planned for Tampa, you would have found yourself stuck at the of the line faced with either a cab ride or renting a car.

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                Yeah we rented a car and did things the "American Way" and did a road trip.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                  Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
                  I'd use it to go to the white sand Gulf Coast beaches. Are they still pristine or did the BP Horizon destroy the whole Gulf Coast?
                  As far as beaches go, I'm pretty sure only the panhandle was affected by the oil spill. Those of us here on the west coast beaches only had to deal with lost business from travelers who were afraid it would come here. We still have beautiful beaches ready to welcome you though.



                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                    That's what I thought. That's why maybe this would have been good for the Gulf Coast - bring the tourists back.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                      Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
                      That's what I thought. That's why maybe this would have been good for the Gulf Coast - bring the tourists back.
                      But this would mean waiting several years, and then convincing tourists to pay more for the novelty of riding a high speed train.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                        I see your point about focusing on the Northeast and California corridors, but eventually Tampa-Orlando-Miami would be a great high speed corridor, too.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                          Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
                          I see your point about focusing on the Northeast and California corridors, but eventually Tampa-Orlando-Miami would be a great high speed corridor, too.
                          Orlando-Miami maybe, but not the proposed Tampa-Orlando. First, there is no demand there. There are no flights between the cities and they are too close, especially when Lakeland is included. The longest stretches of track would be around 30 mi - 40 mi. The two points are just too close to get a train up to speed to justify all of the costs associated with making it high speed capable. Throw in the current unwillingness to build out existing locals systems, especially in Tampa, and you really do have a train to nowhere that serves nobody.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                            Eventually I'd like to see it go from Miami-Orlando-Atlanta-Charlotte-Richmond-DC-New York-Boston.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: High Speed Rail cancelled in Florida

                              Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
                              Eventually I'd like to see it go from Miami-Orlando-Atlanta-Charlotte-Richmond-DC-New York-Boston.
                              I would LOVE that, so long as prices were reasonable. Amtrak in and out of Atlanta is just cost prohibitive.

                              Comment

                              Ad Widget

                              Collapse
                              Working...
                              X