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  • #21
    Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

    Splash Mountain has been around for a long time, always with the same AAs in the same spot next to the water. But NOW it's suddenely a problem? The water isn't the problem. WDW not caring about the state of the animatronics in their attractions is the problem.
    "In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations, the new needs friends." - Anton Ego

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    • #22
      Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

      Originally posted by Peter'sGirl View Post
      It's not like the amazing animatronics are broken for all time, though! They fix them, eventually. Plus, animatronics around water? You've got to give Disney some leeway when it comes to that.
      With 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR in revenue flowing through the parks, that's over 27 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY they have to ensure that 'animatronics around water' ( like that means anything ) get fixed in the 6 hour+ maintenance shift available EVERY SINGLE DAY.

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      • #23
        Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

        Originally posted by Peter'sGirl View Post
        It's not like the amazing animatronics are broken for all time, though! They fix them, eventually. Plus, animatronics around water? You've got to give Disney some leeway when it comes to that.
        The thing is, Disneyland's Splash is in spectacular shape, with everything working, each and every time I get a chance to ride. WDW's splash could be like this, but it never ever is

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        • #24
          Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

          Originally posted by TodAZ1 View Post
          Splash Mountain has been around for a long time, always with the same AAs in the same spot next to the water. But NOW it's suddenely a problem? The water isn't the problem. WDW not caring about the state of the animatronics in their attractions is the problem.
          Originally posted by mikelieman View Post
          With 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR in revenue flowing through the parks, that's over 27 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY they have to ensure that 'animatronics around water' ( like that means anything ) get fixed in the 6 hour+ maintenance shift available EVERY SINGLE DAY.
          Bingo x 2.


          Originally posted by lily23 View Post
          The thing is, Disneyland's Splash is in spectacular shape, with everything working, each and every time I get a chance to ride. WDW's splash could be like this, but it never ever is
          Make that x 3.
          "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
          it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
          together with every variety of recreation and fun,
          designed to appeal to everyone."

          - Walt Disney

          "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
          - Michael Eisner

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          • #25
            Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

            Originally posted by mikelieman View Post
            With 10 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR in revenue flowing through the parks, that's over 27 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY they have to ensure that 'animatronics around water' ( like that means anything ) get fixed in the 6 hour+ maintenance shift available EVERY SINGLE DAY.
            You make it seem like that 10 billion (its more like 11.5) is going just to WDW every time you say it, that's just not true. the money is allocated to "parks" in general they have to split that money between paris, california, orlando, Hong Kong, and Shanghi. when they split this money they also have to keep in mind new expansion projects so that goes into effect as well. then when this money gets to WDW its now roughly 5 billion. this number splits again into each individual park, downtown disney areas, the water parks, the resorts, and amenities that aren't run by outside companies. all of a sudden you have a lot less money to cover operating costs, new projects, maintenance, ect. then you alluded to.

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            • #26
              Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

              Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
              You make it seem like that 10 billion (its more like 11.5) is going just to WDW every time you say it, that's just not true. the money is allocated to "parks" in general they have to split that money between paris, california, orlando, Hong Kong, and Shanghi. when they split this money they also have to keep in mind new expansion projects so that goes into effect as well. then when this money gets to WDW its now roughly 5 billion. this number splits again into each individual park, downtown disney areas, the water parks, the resorts, and amenities that aren't run by outside companies. all of a sudden you have a lot less money to cover operating costs, new projects, maintenance, ect. then you alluded to.
              The "crying poor" excuse for the multi-billion-dollar Disney Corporation doesn't cut it anymore. No matter how one tries to parse Disney's bottom line, lack of funds is not the reason for WDW's lack of maintenance.

              During Disneyland's dark decade, "not enough money" was frequently cited as an excuse for everything from poor maintenance to closed attractions. It was just as specious an argument in DL's case then as it is in WDW's case now.
              Last edited by Mr Wiggins; 02-29-2012, 04:19 PM.
              "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
              it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
              together with every variety of recreation and fun,
              designed to appeal to everyone."

              - Walt Disney

              "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
              - Michael Eisner

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              • #27
                Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

                Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
                The "crying poor" excuse for the multi-billion-dollar Disney Corporation doesn't cut it anymore. No matter how one tries to parse Disney's bottom line, it's clear that lack of funds is not the reason for WDW's lack of maintenance.

                During Disneyland's dark decade, lack of funds was frequently cited as an excuse for its poor maintenance. It was just as specious an argument in DL's case then as it is in WDW's case now.
                I think its a valid argument in both cases regardless of anyone's opinions on the parks conditions. during what people have believed are low points in the parks maintenance, cleanliness, what ever the complaint may be, its come at a time where the Disney company has added international parks. instead of changing their budget to accommodate this change they still hand the same percentage of profits out to the resorts division. it was roughly 30% of profits before Disneyland Paris and its that exact same number today. Instead of handing these people the money they need the company is telling the division to make cuts that have obviously affected some peoples experiences in the parks, limited the amount of expansion projects, and when said projects come out are half the time underwhelming. this is a very valid point and i believe that if it can be resolved then the park experience will be improved rapidly.

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                • #28
                  Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

                  Disneyworld's decline in standards of maintenance and showmanship has been documented for more than a decade, as has the corporate culture of TDO that is responsible for it.

                  WDW's decline is corporate history repeating itself. As with Disneyland before it, the cause is the same: a Disney management more concerned with inflating the bottom line than maintaining Disney standards.

                  Until such time as TDO gets its act together, Disney and its customers are well served by fans who keep the publicity spotlight turned on. As with Disneyland, publicly shaming the corporation into doing what is best for itself, as well as for its customers, can work wonders.
                  "Disneyland is often called a magic kingdom because
                  it combines fantasy and history, adventure and learning,
                  together with every variety of recreation and fun,
                  designed to appeal to everyone."

                  - Walt Disney

                  "Disneyland is all about turning movies into rides."
                  - Michael Eisner

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                  • #29
                    Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

                    Originally posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
                    Disneyworld's decline in standards of maintenance and showmanship has been documented for more than a decade, as has the corporate culture of TDO that is responsible for it.

                    WDW's decline is corporate history repeating itself. As with Disneyland before it, the cause is the same: a Disney management more concerned with inflating the bottom line than maintaining Disney standards.

                    Until such time as TDO gets its act together, Disney and its customers are well served by fans who keep the publicity spotlight turned on. As with Disneyland, publicly shaming the corporation into doing what is best for itself, as well as for its customers, can work wonders.
                    That's your opinion and i totally respect that, its great everyone has their own. My opinion is that the current state of the parks is not as low as you claim it to be and it is still a very enjoyable experience. I believe many people share my opinion. however I do love the crusader-esque personal shout out / pat on the back at the end there.

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                    • #30
                      Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

                      As much as I want to rip on TDO all I can say is usually when people complain it gets fixed (eventually) still from watching old videos of the place in the mid-90s it gives you a good idea on were maintenance got lazy. It's not a bad park it just seems TDO is committed to making the shareholders happy, not the guest.


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                      • #31
                        Re: Broken Walt Disney World Ride effects

                        Tokyo's Splash Mountain is perfect in my opinion, all the animatronics are working and their moves are very swift
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