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    There goes those 5-10min waits in the afternoon. My god....why why....... How the heck are we gonna get on this now???

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    Maybe i am just not thinking it through but if the wait time was already 5-10 minutes how would the addition of fastpass make it longer? Especially if they enforcing return times.
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    • #3
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      If this is true the train has really come off the rails. Perhaps Xpass is simply going to be pay-for-play Fastpass access, with Fastpass machines being introduced everywhere to justify the upcharge?

      So much money blown on smoke and mirrors in the name of unbridled greed.

      Not to mention all the unnecessary visual clutter and crowd congestion this nonsense will cause. Paradise lost. There is no justifiable reason for this. Sheer stupidity on an unmitigated scale. If this is true.
      Last edited by Virtual Toad; 02-25-2012, 08:55 AM.

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      • #4
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        Because ALL FP attractions hold stanby lines for ridiculous amounts of time, even if there is NOONE in the FP line. SSE carries almost 3,000 guests an hour. THATS why there is no line. By creating a 2nd line w/ FP to hold what WOULD have been the old regular line (StandBy), the wait time WILL increase. It's happened at EVERY attractions that has gotten FP. They actually had to take it off Mansion because it was a waittime disaster. Pan never had more than a 40min wait even in peak season before FP. Philarmagic's queue went ou the door with FP. After it was gone, you could walk right in.

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        • #5
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          Wait...what? What?? Why?! Why is this even- wow. No omnimover ride needs fastpass! It's a continuously moving ride. This boggles the mind!

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          • #6
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            Darn, we are doomed. SSE is definitely not an attraction that needs FastPass.
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            • #7
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              another totally unconfirmed rumor. in fact the installation is most likely for the x-pass project (many other sources agree on this) and not fastpass at all. nobody knows whats actually occurring here but im 90% sure its not fast pass. it might be a case of someone drinking some depressing koolaid if you catch my drift though.......

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              • #8
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                Wait FP on Omnimover rides? Oh come on some please slap whoever took this decision. Looks like my trips to SSE will be in the evening now.


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                • #9
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                  Yeah, if they're making a Fastpass entrance, it's to make room for Xpass. If the rumors are true, many rides will be getting them.

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                  • #10
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                    This blog only speculates on why the walls are there, but acts like their speculation is fact. Sad.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by PeoplemoverMatt View Post
                      This blog only speculates on why the walls are there, but acts like their speculation is fact. Sad.
                      ell it's most likely for Xpass but it's still ridiculous, why does SSE need that? Ive waited max 10 minutes to ride it.


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                      • #12
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                        ^ Probably because it's not a 10minute max wait all of the time.

                        XPass, at its core, like other paid queue services at other parks, will most likely be intended for, and best used during the peak attendance days. Those days where the entire park is slammed. Wouldn't it be nice to be there during one of those days with all your rides already planned out and you didn't have to worry about not being able to do what you most wanted to do because of the crowds?

                        Parks are realizing people will pay incredible amounts of money for that little piece of mind. It's a magical phenomenon. Costs exactly zero to make, but can sell for hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

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                        • #13
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                          SSE is crowded, sure but the high capacity makes the ride have a short wait time!! Fastpass...is ridiculous! We dont need it!
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                          • #14
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                            Omnimover rides are as efficient as the CMs can literally get the guests to move into the car and sit down, the only inefficiency is a seat left empty.

                            Having to pull people between two lines and balance that only serves to make efficiency go down. You really CAN'T make SSE any more efficient than it already is, it even beats the Haunted Mansion because there's no pre-show. Why would you muddle this up?

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by MickeyMania View Post
                              Omnimover rides are as efficient as the CMs can literally get the guests to move into the car and sit down, the only inefficiency is a seat left empty.

                              Having to pull people between two lines and balance that only serves to make efficiency go down. You really CAN'T make SSE any more efficient than it already is, it even beats the Haunted Mansion because there's no pre-show. Why would you muddle this up?
                              Well said! Same logic goes for Buzz Lightyear's Space Rangers, no pre-show (well sort of) and a constant load and unload cycle.


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                              • #16
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                                Originally posted by MickeyMania View Post
                                Omnimover rides are as efficient as the CMs can literally get the guests to move into the car and sit down, the only inefficiency is a seat left empty.

                                Having to pull people between two lines and balance that only serves to make efficiency go down. You really CAN'T make SSE any more efficient than it already is, it even beats the Haunted Mansion because there's no pre-show. Why would you muddle this up?
                                This addition (if it does actually happen) though isn't about improving efficiency, its purely about allowing people the option of getting to the front of the line. On busy days the wait fro SSE can get to around 40 mins + so yes I agree with this if it does actually happen. If they have a cm working the front of the line that is competent at their job then this should not affect the efficiency at all. the only additional time that is added is when the cm clicks a chain on one line and off another asking about the party size the whole way. that's an addition of about 2-3 seconds to the process, not sure why people are complaining about that aspect.

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                                • #17
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                                  Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                                  This addition (if it does actually happen) though isn't about improving efficiency, its purely about allowing people the option of getting to the front of the line. On busy days the wait fro SSE can get to around 40 mins + so yes I agree with this if it does actually happen. If they have a cm working the front of the line that is competent at their job then this should not affect the efficiency at all. the only additional time that is added is when the cm clicks a chain on one line and off another asking about the party size the whole way. that's an addition of about 2-3 seconds to the process, not sure why people are complaining about that aspect.
                                  A 40 minute wait for SSE is FAR from typical. More like 15-20 tops midday, and typically a walk-on anytime after 4pm.

                                  Introducing Xpass to SSE will increase wait times for MOST guests, since the majority will be using standby. How in the world is potentially ticking off a MAJORITY of your guests sound management policy?

                                  There's a very good reason SSE has never had Fastpass.

                                  Those truly worried about skipping to the front of the line should either shell out real money for a VIP guide or use their brains to avoid long lines like the rest of us do.

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                                  • #18
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                                    Hype.. fear.. uncertainty... it's what dreams are made of!

                                    Remember when people thought the queue work at Peter Pan was interactive queue?? OOPs.. no.. wheelchair access

                                    Remember when everyone said the work at the Seas was FP? OOpps.. now people think it's access to turtle talk.. reality is no one knows for sure

                                    Adding FP isn't about making the ride more efficent.. so that whole 'but..' is just off the mark entirely.

                                    and they don't hold people back in standby for no reason what-so-ever - this is yet more misunderstanding of what is actually being done. They don't hold the line and let EMPTY seats go. They are often holding the line back at merge to keep the line from flooding the merge area.
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                                    • #19
                                      Re: SSE FP comming........

                                      Originally posted by Virtual Toad View Post
                                      A 40 minute wait for SSE is FAR from typical. More like 15-20 tops midday, and typically a walk-on anytime after 4pm.

                                      Introducing Xpass to SSE will increase wait times for MOST guests, since the majority will be using standby. How in the world is potentially ticking off a MAJORITY of your guests sound management policy?

                                      There's a very good reason SSE has never had Fastpass.

                                      Those truly worried about skipping to the front of the line should either shell out real money for a VIP guide or use their brains to avoid long lines like the rest of us do.
                                      That's why I said it CAN get as high as 40 mins not that it does on a regular basis. durring busy season it can easily get that high at times. If its such a small minority of people getting this treatment and the line is constantly moving then how does this tick off people in the stand by line? does waiting 2 more minutes really ruin your day? by the way WE STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN ACTUALLY HAPPENING.....just saying lets put the pitchforks back in the shed people, this isn't a big deal.

                                      ---------- Post added 03-01-2012 at 01:31 PM ----------

                                      Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
                                      Hype.. fear.. uncertainty... it's what dreams are made of!

                                      Remember when people thought the queue work at Peter Pan was interactive queue?? OOPs.. no.. wheelchair access

                                      Remember when everyone said the work at the Seas was FP? OOpps.. now people think it's access to turtle talk.. reality is no one knows for sure

                                      Adding FP isn't about making the ride more efficent.. so that whole 'but..' is just off the mark entirely.

                                      and they don't hold people back in standby for no reason what-so-ever - this is yet more misunderstanding of what is actually being done. They don't hold the line and let EMPTY seats go. They are often holding the line back at merge to keep the line from flooding the merge area.
                                      Thank You flynn glad to know someone understands where im coming from here.

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                                      • #20
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                                        Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                                        That's why I said it CAN get as high as 40 mins not that it does on a regular basis. durring busy season it can easily get that high at times. If its such a small minority of people getting this treatment and the line is constantly moving then how does this tick off people in the stand by line?
                                        I went on the 4th of July at Epcot last year (the second busiest day at WDW) and the line didn't go over 20 minutes.


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