You should've seen my father's reaction to the news, since we're going in just ten days. Didn't know he liked the ride all that much, but it ticked him off a bit.
I don't have a huge attachment to this ride, but I don't agree on the principles on which it's leaving. "We're expanding Fantasyland! So let's rip a popular low-maintenance ride out and replace it with a meet and greet!"
I don't.... I just...
Click the banner! ^^^^
Follow us on Twitter @mickeymutineers and on Facebook Mickey Mutineer Podcast now available in the blog and on iTunes!
I don't have a huge attachment to this ride, but I don't agree on the principles on which it's leaving. "We're expanding Fantasyland! So let's rip a popular low-maintenance ride out and replace it with a meet and greet!"
I don't.... I just...
Totally how I feel.
Is it a fantastic attraction? No. However, the Magic Kingdom needs more attractions, not less.
There are any number of ways and places to create a Princess meet & greet without gutting an actual attraction.
This should have stayed open until the coaster was ready, and then it should have been replaced with a different dark ride.
I was there tonight and was one of the last people to ride it before closing. I think it had the longest wait it had had in years - approaching one hour.
Looking at it objectively, it was the worst ride in Fantasyland, not well cared for, and an inferior version of what had been there previously. If a FL attraction had to go, I'm glad this was it. That said, I agree with the general sentiment that they should use the space for something better than a meet and greet.
I knew if this business was ever to get anywhere, if this business was ever to grow, it could never do it by having to answer to someone unsympathetic to its possibilities, by having to answer to someone with only one thought or interest, namely profits. For my idea of how to make profits has differed greatly from those who generally control businesses such as ours. I have blind faith in the policy that quality, tempered with good judgment and showmanship, will win against all odds.
-Walt Disney
I don't have a huge attachment to this ride, but I don't agree on the principles on which it's leaving. "We're expanding Fantasyland! So let's rip a popular low-maintenance ride out and replace it with a meet and greet!"
I don't.... I just...
They are replacing it with the Seven Dwarfs Mine Coaster which will be just a few yards away...
How long before the Disney replaces all the classic rides with cheap meet and greets just to save on money? It's 1990's Disneyland all over again. Skyway, people mover, motor boat cruise, Circle vision, Mission to mars, submarines, Tahitian Terrace, and Swiss Family Robinson's tree house all replaced or removed to "enhance" the park. None of these changes made the park better but removing them did decrease the cost of upkeep for the park. People mover was removed for a ride that lasted 2 years, circle vision later became Buzz (a ride based on toys added to a futuristic land, makes sense right?), mission to mars became a restaurant (with really nasty pizza), subs sat dormant for a decade before finally being used for Nemo subs which is better than nothing but still meh, Tahitian terrace was replaced by an Aladdin show that didn't last long and is now closed, Swiss Family Robinson Tree house was replaced by Tarzan aka cheap fiberglass gorillas and some other cheap "enhancements". If this is the path WDW is taking count me as a DLR only guy.
It's always sad to see a classic attraction go, but I mostly feel sorry for the autistic boy who has rather famously ridden it 4000+ times.
Apparently the Snow White coaster (feels weird to write that) will reuse elements from the dark ride, so more power to them. And hey, the expansion used to be mostly meet and greets, so I'd try to look at the positive here.
They are replacing it with the Seven Dwarfs Mine Coaster which will be just a few yards away...
Right, but they're putting in a meet and greet where a different dark ride would still fit just fine. They have whole lot of room to put a meet and greet wherever they want. Why does it have to go in perfectly good ride space?
Click the banner! ^^^^
Follow us on Twitter @mickeymutineers and on Facebook Mickey Mutineer Podcast now available in the blog and on iTunes!
ORDDU: I have to disagree that Snow White's Scary Adventures wasn't well maintained. It was actually in better Shape than Peter Pan's Flight to Neverland. I think the ride was more popular than it seemed. The reason the lines for it were shorter than others was due to larger ride capacity. It had 3 rows for seating, whereas Peter Pan's ride vehicle only had 1 row.
ORWEN: I think Peter Pan's Flight is the ride that is poorly maintained, if any dark ride in Fantasyland is poorly maintained. You'd think they could have made it much better by now--like the one in California. They could have added more of those fiber optic stars but just haven't.
ORDDU: So, we're really going to miss Snow White's dark ride. Even if we enjoy the new coaster, we'll prefer the simple dark ride over that.
My problem is: they are replacing an opening day ride that THE WHOLE FAMILY could enjoy, with an "attraction" that really only appeals to a narrow age range of little girls. There are plenty of other places for meet-n-greets.
I think they should try to move SWSA into the side of the Dwarf Mine ride.
Everyone keeps referring to the SWSA attraction that closed yesterday as if it's a 1971 original. It's not. The original 1971 Snow White's Adventures was changed in 1994 into a very different and less scary attraction. (And like most of the changes in the mid-'90s, this one was arguably for the worse.) Equating the two and calling the attraction that closed yesterday an "original attraction" is almost like calling Gran Fiesta Tour a 1982 EPCOT Center original because it uses the original show scenes from El Rio del Tiempo.
Personally, I think this is one of those areas where WDW fans need to withhold judgment at the risk of losing credibility. The Mine Coaster isn't Avatar - they're not dropping something into the middle of the park that clearly doesn't belong. To the contrary, they're using the space freed up by SWSA to bring the princesses out of Town Square, where they clearly don't belong. Now, would I rather have an attraction than a meet and greet? Of course, but I'm also glad we're getting FLE 2.0 which has a totally new attraction (the mine coaster) rather than just a bunch of "deluxe" meet and greet locations.
Everyone's poo-pooing the mine coaster and saying they'll like the dark ride better, yet none of us have ridden the mine coaster yet. Are you that determined to hate anything new from Disney that you don't believe that 2012 WDI is capable of matching/beating something from 1994? I'll tell you this - I like the 2011 version of WDW's Tiki Room a heck of a lot better than the 1998 version...
I knew if this business was ever to get anywhere, if this business was ever to grow, it could never do it by having to answer to someone unsympathetic to its possibilities, by having to answer to someone with only one thought or interest, namely profits. For my idea of how to make profits has differed greatly from those who generally control businesses such as ours. I have blind faith in the policy that quality, tempered with good judgment and showmanship, will win against all odds.
-Walt Disney
How long before the Disney replaces all the classic rides with cheap meet and greets just to save on money? It's 1990's Disneyland all over again. Skyway, people mover, motor boat cruise, Circle vision, Mission to mars, submarines, Tahitian Terrace, and Swiss Family Robinson's tree house all replaced or removed to "enhance" the park. None of these changes made the park better but removing them did decrease the cost of upkeep for the park. People mover was removed for a ride that lasted 2 years, circle vision later became Buzz (a ride based on toys added to a futuristic land, makes sense right?), mission to mars became a restaurant (with really nasty pizza), subs sat dormant for a decade before finally being used for Nemo subs which is better than nothing but still meh, Tahitian terrace was replaced by an Aladdin show that didn't last long and is now closed, Swiss Family Robinson Tree house was replaced by Tarzan aka cheap fiberglass gorillas and some other cheap "enhancements". If this is the path WDW is taking count me as a DLR only guy.
Lol, this is so incredibly overdramatic. You just equated one deteriorating ride space being reformatted into a new M&G built on a healthy budget at WALT DISNEY WORLD to 8 attractions at DISNEYLAND that were ripped out with no replacement or just replaced with something that you don't particularly care for. They're not even comparable.
ORDDU: My sisters and I fully realize that Snow White's Scary Adventures received an upgrade in 1994--and we think it was a change for the better. Before the change it was pretty much the same as Disneyland's. If it had remained like Disneyland's version, we wouldn't be as concerned about the closure of this attraction now. The 1994 upgrade is what made the second version far superior to Disneyland's version. It told more of the story and that's what we had always been hoping for.
ORWEN: We are losing what was the BEST version of Snow White's scary Adventures and we don't have to wait to ride the Dwarf Coaster to know we will always like the dark ride better. We talked to some Imagineers who were in the park one day and they described the coaster--saying it would only have one scene with the dwarves. Most of the coaster ride won't have show scenes, which is what we prefer over thrills.
Comment