Announcement

Collapse
See more
See less

Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

Collapse

Get Away Today

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • disneyfann121
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Star Tours also I am guessing was designed for both coasts. Why would they only give DL the updated version. This is also another attraction that was designed at the same time so there is no original and no clone.
    Originally, TDO declined; they actually wanted to keep the original, with its standard 10 minute wait times! A jaw dropping, baffling decision, but thankfully, the head company forced them to come to their senses.

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by PSUMark View Post
    Off topic, but honestly... With the exception of Lost River Delta, what part of TDS isn't signature?

    Hehe that's true. And that's the beauty of Tokyo. If Walt Disney World wants the title of Most Visited Resort in the World, it oughtta deserve it by having the most impressive line-up of attractions and lands around.

    Currently, it doesn't. Let's hope that Kathy Mangum's experience at Disneyland can elevate WDW into something else.

    Leave a comment:


  • PSUMark
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    And I agree about Cars Land... it should remain unique to DCA in the same way that Mysterious Island should be a signature land in Tokyo Disney Sea.
    Off topic, but honestly... With the exception of Lost River Delta, what part of TDS isn't signature?

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
    Unless it was just HPatFJ with a gift shop attached, I still think that cloning the entire WWoHP is still a bad idea. I mean USO is rolling in the big bucks in tourism because of Harry Potter. Wouldn't they lose that tourism bunch with every cloning they do of the land?

    That all depends. I think the die-hards from the West Coast that wanted to see it in Florida already have. When USH opens it in, those same die-hards will most likely go there too. Either way, USH has never had better business than it does right now. They're doing quite well and they're perched to continue that trend.



    And I agree about Cars Land... it should remain unique to DCA in the same way that Mysterious Island should be a signature land in Tokyo Disney Sea.

    Leave a comment:


  • emilyinwonderland
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Personally I wouldn't feel like Carsland would fit into DHS (Route 66 is sort of more of a California thing yes?) but I also feel that the Disney Company wouldn't do that anyway. I think when it comes to making big ticket rides and attractions they want them to be unique to certain parks and in some cases they'd like them to be shared. I mean, all the Disney parks around the world have similar things to unite them and then on the other hand they have differences so people will want to travel and see them all. It's no fun going to Disneyland and Walt Disney World and knowing they're identical. It's fun to see the differences! Being someone who grew up on both coasts I love both parks equally and think that they each deserve the best.

    ---------- Post added 08-13-2012 at 04:05 PM ----------

    Also in regards to WWoHP I live in California and had plenty of friends visit the Florida one. Location wasn't really an issue for anyone, though it is nice to see it coming here I know it also will probably never compare to the Florida one. I think the only WWoHP that could top all the other would be a European one simply because of the environment there.

    Leave a comment:


  • toonaspie
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Apples and oranges, my friend. Harry Potter is something much, much bigger than Cars. And it's not something we "WANTED" to come to USH. But they made the announcement and it's hard not to be excited about it.
    Unless it was just HPatFJ with a gift shop attached, I still think that cloning the entire WWoHP is still a bad idea. I mean USO is rolling in the big bucks in tourism because of Harry Potter. Wouldn't they lose that tourism bunch with every cloning they do of the land?

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by WDW1971 View Post
    As a East Coaster, I do not want to see Cars Land coming to DHS. The reason I feel this way is because the ride has nothing to do with the theme of the park.

    I find it interesting how so many Californians hate the thought of Cars Land being cloned to Florida but are so excited to have Harry Potter cloned to USH.

    Apples and oranges, my friend. Harry Potter is something much, much bigger than Cars. And it's not something we "WANTED" to come to USH. But they made the announcement and it's hard not to be excited about it.

    Leave a comment:


  • WDW1971
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    As a East Coaster, I do not want to see Cars Land coming to DHS. The reason I feel this way is because the ride has nothing to do with the theme of the park.

    I find it interesting how so many Californians hate the thought of Cars Land being cloned to Florida but are so excited to have Harry Potter cloned to USH.

    Leave a comment:


  • Dapper Dan
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    It's pretty sad that I've been so beaten down by Disney PR that whenever I read something titled "Big News" my first thought is that it's a new vinylmation or something equally not worthy of big news. The title of this thread did have the word "horizon" in it though. That always makes me excited for a couple seconds.

    The success of carsland can be taken 2 ways.
    1. If you spend a lot of money on something you can make it truly awesome the first time and not have to worry about spending money again refreshing it in a few years.
    2. Lands based on film franchises really are what people want.
    I'm hoping they're smart enough to recognize the first one, but the track record shows they'll probably go with #2.

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Rave View Post
    Don't kid yourself with Star Tours. You honestly think they planned to completely redo just Disneyland's when it would transfer almost directly to WDW's? They were developed in tandem.

    If I want to believe the rumors, Star Tours was apparently forced upon Orlando's management. I seriously hope that wasn't the case but I have yet to hear anyone crushing that rumor.

    Re: Midway Mania, the Imagineers themselves designed that ride for the full intent that it was going in DCA. But of course it's way more inexpensive to make double orders and to clone rides so off it went to Florida as well. The reason it opened first, DHS had an easier location to build. In DCA, they had to work around a working roller coaster with a more lavish exterior.


    I'm not here for bragging rights, just stating what has trickled down the grapevine. I for one don't blame Magic Kingdom for many of the older cloned attractions from Disneyland. It was a necessity to do so back then. And it certainly goes both ways.

    Leave a comment:


  • LordVader
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by toonaspie View Post
    I have no problem with them cloning simple classics that can be built anywhere and still fit the general area (Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Star Tours, The Little Mermaid, Tower of Terror). But Carsland I find way too big a concept to be duplicated anywhere other than where it was originally built for. There's nothing wrong with WDW getting much of DL's favorites but the idea of cloning a whole unique concept land like Carsland would be the ultimate overkill. I'm not a fan of Universal's plans to clone WWoHP in California and Japan for the same reasons.
    Agreed.

    Leave a comment:


  • toonaspie
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    I have no problem with them cloning simple classics that can be built anywhere and still fit the general area (Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Star Tours, The Little Mermaid, Tower of Terror). But Carsland I find way too big a concept to be duplicated anywhere other than where it was originally built for. There's nothing wrong with WDW getting much of DL's favorites but the idea of cloning a whole unique concept land like Carsland would be the ultimate overkill. I'm not a fan of Universal's plans to clone WWoHP in California and Japan for the same reasons.

    Leave a comment:


  • disneylandfan95
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Rave View Post
    Don't kid yourself with Star Tours. You honestly think they planned to completely redo just Disneyland's when it would transfer almost directly to WDW's? They were developed in tandem.
    Yes, Star Tours II was originally planned for Disneyland in CA and TDA paid for all the R&D. The queue and random combinations were specifically designed for Disneyland's AP-heavy attendance.

    Leave a comment:


  • Rave
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    I think most recently it was Toy Story Midway Mania and Star Tours that.... while they opened first in Florida, they were conceived for the Disneyland Resort.
    Don't kid yourself with Star Tours. You honestly think they planned to completely redo just Disneyland's when it would transfer almost directly to WDW's? They were developed in tandem.

    Leave a comment:


  • LordVader
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by WDW1971 View Post
    Where has WDW copied the successes of DL? It seems to me like DL has been cloning the successful attractions from WDW.
    Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain, almost all of the original Fantasyland, Jungle Cruise, Tiki Room. Just to name a few.

    Leave a comment:


  • WDW1971
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    I think most recently it was Toy Story Midway Mania and Star Tours that.... while they opened first in Florida, they were conceived for the Disneyland Resort.

    Then there's Ariel's Undersea Adventure for their new Fantasyland. And let's not forget Soarin'.
    I think the problem with this statement is that Toy Story Mania opened first at WDW but was designed and developed to be attractions at both WDW and DL so its not really a question of who the original was because they were both intended to open at both resorts.

    Star Tours also I am guessing was designed for both coasts. Why would they only give DL the updated version. This is also another attraction that was designed at the same time so there is no original and no clone.

    Under the Sea ~ Voyage of the Little Mermaid I am also guessing was designed with the plan of opening it on both coasts. It makes so much more sense in Fantasyland than an aquarium.

    Soarin' I give to you and know WDW could have really made a better ride based on the technology and an original film. I abhor that they just cloned it from DCA without making it fit WDW better.

    Unfortunately, in today's Disney it seems like whenever they open a new, expensive attraction, they like to debut it on both coasts so then they save on the development costs. If they are going to place two of the same rides on different coasts though, they have to make sure it fits with the theme and story of the park. For example The Little Mermaid in DCA does not belong as it does in Magic Kingdom. Also Soarin' in Epcot does not belong as it is in DCA.

    For someone who cannot afford to go all the way to Florida or all the way to California, it is nice that they can experience the same ride that they probably will never be able to experience on the other coasts.

    I am not really against Disney sending all East Coasters to WDW and all West Coasters to DL because if everyone was going to WDW and everyone was going to DL, both places would get crowded. Its a form of crowd control I guess.

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    I think most recently it was Toy Story Midway Mania and Star Tours that.... while they opened first in Florida, they were conceived for the Disneyland Resort.

    Then there's Ariel's Undersea Adventure for their new Fantasyland. And let's not forget Soarin'.


    Recent memory is all people can think of. Disneyland was getting a lot of copycats from Florida for a while too. (Buzz Lightyear, Tower of Terror, Winnie the Pooh).

    Leave a comment:


  • SparkChaser
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by WDW1971 View Post
    Where has WDW copied the successes of DL? It seems to me like DL has been cloning the successful attractions from WDW.
    One name MAGIC KINGDOM However I do get your argument since it opened DL has gotten versions of Country Bear Jamboree, Space Mountain, scenes from the Jungle Cruise, almost received a version of EPCOT, Tower of Terror, Muppet Vision and for a while the Monorail looked like WDW's for Peg Leg Pete's sake.

    See ya walkin' right down the middle of o'l Main Street USA

    Leave a comment:


  • WDW1971
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by LordVader View Post
    I would prefer Carsland stay in DCA. WDW needs to stop relying on DL's successes to clone and ship back east.
    Where has WDW copied the successes of DL? It seems to me like DL has been cloning the successful attractions from WDW.

    Leave a comment:


  • Coheteboy
    replied
    Re: Kathy Mangum has new post at WDW: something big on the horizon?

    Originally posted by PSUMark View Post
    Not wanting clones is not the same as not wanting good attractions. TDS has almost 0 clones and is one of the best parks in the world. I'm an East Coaster and I'd prefer we didn't get Cars Land and sent the MSEP back to DL where it belongs. I'd much rather have something new!

    Precisely. I don't mind rides of the same name that are different... like Space Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain... and even Tower of Terror have their differences in both ride and look.

    Cars Land was made to be just like it looked in the film. I would hope that if WDW gets something from the Cars world, they do something entirely different.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X