[Question] New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

[Greg Reid]

I hope it doesn't look tacky compared to the rest of the park.
Thoughts?

[disneylandfan95]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

I hope it doesn't look tacky compared to the rest of the park.
Thoughts?

Tacky? The rest of the park is going to look tacky compared to the new Fantasyland.

[Greg Reid]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Tacky? The rest of the park is going to look tacky compared to the new Fantasyland.

Hmm maybe not tacky haha I can't think of the right word
like outcasted, like not traditonal?
Idk I can't explain what I mean :') sorry

[mickdaddy]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Looks like amazing attention to detail to me!

[Greg Reid]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Looks like amazing attention to detail to me!

It does look amazing it does, but I dont know from what I've seen it feels like it will lack like the traditional magic
but Disney always pull it out of the bag i suppose!

[Bronco21]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

First off Walt had very little to do with the planning of the Magic Kingdom. Second FLE looks really nice (first thing TDO has built of high quality in quite a while they still didn't front the bill for TLM).

[Greg Reid]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

First off Walt had very little to do with the planning of the Magic Kingdom. Second FLE looks really nice (first thing TDO has built of high quality in quite a while they still didn't front the bill for TLM).

I know he didn't but it's obviously highly based on the original park and what if California had the room and the new fantasy land was being built there, do you think he would have wanted it?
It does look nice I didn't mean tacky I can't explain what I mean haha
more like out of place from the original park?

[DisneyIPresume]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

With all due respect your thread title is somewhat irrelevant when it comes to WDW. The only experience Walt had with building it was buying up the land and providing a rough draft for EPCOT.

On the other hand that question carries much more relevancy when it comes to the DLR because Walt built it himself and experienced it for the last 11 years of his life.

Even then, Walt has been dead for 46 years now. So I don't think anyone knows without a shadow of a doubt if he would have approved -- whether that be the new Fantasyland or the new Carsland out in California.

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I know he didn't but it's obviously highly based on the original park and what if California had the room and the new fantasy land was being built there, do you think he would have wanted it?
It does look nice I didn't mean tacky I can't explain what I mean haha
more like out of place from the original park?

The Fantasyland they are building in Florida would not work in California. The original park is quite a bit smaller and is completely surrounded by the city of Anaheim. WDW however is a lot bigger and has a lot of room for expansion.

[Greg Reid]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

With all due respect your thread title is somewhat irrelevant when it comes to WDW. The only experience Walt had with building it was buying up the land and providing a rough draft for EPCOT.

On the other hand that question carries much more relevancy when it comes to the DLR because Walt built it himself and experienced it for the last 11 years of his life.

Even then, Walt has been dead for 46 years now. So I don't think anyone knows without a shadow of a doubt if he would have approved -- whether that be the new Fantasyland or the new Carsland out in California.

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The Fantasyland they are building in Florida would not work in California. The original park is quite a bit smaller and is completely surrounded by the city of Anaheim. WDW however is a lot bigger and has a lot of room for expansion.

I know that's why I said "what if California had the room" haha which obviously it doesn't but hypothetically speaking.
And yes true that, no one would know I guess. I'm sure he'd love the new fantasy land thinking about it.

[DisneyIPresume]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Your question asks if Walt would approve of the new fantasyland.

Just so you know if these types of questions interest you then you really should book a trip to Disneyland. Because in order to answer questions this you would need to see what Walt actually did there.

Anyway I digress. To be honest though Disneyland wouldn't be able to give you too many answers on this because their Fantasyland was remodeled in the 1980s. What we do know is that Disneyland's Fantasyland in Walt's day looked much like the original Fantasyland in the Matic Kingdom. It can be argued that Walt wanted Fantasyland to look like that and he would not have approved of the newer versions. On the other hand it turns out that Walt was in a tight budget when he was building Disneyland and he didn't have the money to do what he really wanted to do with Fantasyland. So your question remains, and no one really has a definite answer.

[Greg Reid]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Your question asks if Walt would approve of the new fantasyland.

Just so you know if these types of questions interest you then you really should book a trip to Disneyland. Because in order to answer questions this you would need to see what Walt actually did there.

Anyway I digress. To be honest though Disneyland wouldn't be able to give you too many answers on this because their Fantasyland was remodeled in the 1980s. What we do know is that Disneyland's Fantasyland in Walt's day looked much like the original Fantasyland in the Matic Kingdom. It can be argued that Walt wanted Fantasyland to look like that and he would not have approved of the newer versions. On the other hand it turns out that Walt was in a tight budget when he was building Disneyland and he didn't have the money to do what he really wanted to do with Fantasyland. So your question remains, and no one really has a definite answer.

Oh trust me if I could afford it, I'd be there tomorrow haha! Same with Disney World!
And that's very true, thanks for commenting!

[WDW1971]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

I think he would have wanted one more ride in it.

We really are getting one new ride in the expansion but tons of detail. And none of those rides are real E tickets (Little Mermaid could have been something along Haunted Mansion but DCA blew it) but we are getting two solid D tickets. Cars Land got an E ticket and two C tickets so I guess it balances out. Two quality rides, bigger Dumbo, and rethemed roller coaster vs One quality ride and two outdoor rides. Both lands have lots of detail but come in light on attractions.

[JCSkipr79]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

I think Walt defintalty would NOT have approved a show where you need Berlitz lessons in baby talk to enjoy and have a character act like a kindergarten teacher.

[ttintagel]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Well, the idea of parents sitting and watching while their kids play goes directly against his stated goals for building Disneyland in the first place. As for the rest of it, I think it's high-quality show that he would have liked.

[Pizzapants]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

If Walt were around to see it, I know exactly what he'd say:
"It's 2012! I'm 110 years old! Why am I still here?? You there! Stop misquoting me! Bring me my soup!"

But besides that he probably would've thought the attention to detail was top notch. Better than the tent theme of his original Fantasyland.

[ohmyjustin]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Well, the idea of parents sitting and watching while their kids play goes directly against his stated goals for building Disneyland in the first place.

Sort of what I was thinking. If I have friends who want to vacation at WDW with me, I want to be able to explore this part of the Magic Kingdom. I don't want to feel like I need a kid to get in because it specifically caters to them. Maybe it does, but it shouldn't. I love that we enter a portal to traverse between the cottage to the castle. I love Lumiere. I love the Wardrobe. Those parts of the show are great. But why are the kids holding cut outs? Why is there a little play? Why are the parents sitting on the side? I felt like there is so much potential, but WDW took it in a different direction that I don't particularly like.

I hope that there is either a massive overhaul on what happens in here to be more of an attraction rather than a glorified meet and greet. Exploring the house is great but I feel that even a giant walk through with animatronics would have been better than this. I mean, what happens when you have a very shy kid? Or only shy kids who don't want to do a conga line? Perhaps I'm being pessimistic, but I just don't feel the space was used wisely from what I saw in videos.

[Santana]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Threads like this make me nauseous tbh. There is no way of knowing whether Walt would have approved or disapproved of anything that's happened within the company since his death. The only person who could tell you would be Walt himself so if you really want to know, then perhaps you could ask him once you kick the bucket yourself.

[ttintagel]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

Threads like this make me nauseous tbh. There is no way of knowing whether Walt would have approved or disapproved of anything that's happened within the company since his death.

Well,that's kind of a given, isn't it? Does there really need to be a disclaimer at the top of every hypothetical discussion spelling out the fact that it's hypothetical? If you don't enjoy hypothetical discussions, why read them?

[BlAcKoUt510]

Re: New Fantasyland: Would Walt have approved?

He'd love it and think it was a much better improvement over the medieval tents.


I mean the whole area does look amazing! That video they released of Belle's cottage was enough to make my mouth open in shock, I can only imagine how Disney would have reacted.