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  • #21
    Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

    Originally posted by DLRDAD View Post
    Shocked, shocked I say to discover TylerDurden would pick a DLR park. Man, are you in marketing or did your mom design WDW by any chance. You take this whole WDW o er anything DLR thing so seriously and personally and I haven't even been on these web sites very long. I saw somewhere where you argued that Pirates at DL wasn't really better than WDW version and was just myth. I think you kinda discredited yourself as a WDW fanboy and homer with that one.
    I vacation at WDW far more than DL and have a timeshare at Marriott Grande Vista. I love WDW. However, there is no way in hell that DCA is the worst Disney Park on the planet, which is the topic, although you chose to sort of change the argument to be able to bash DLR. I know you probably get frustrated by all of the DLR love on the blogs because most of the members are DL loyalists, but don't take it so personally against WDW. The Studios in its current shape is absolutely awful. Of our last 3 vacations to Orlando, we haven't even spent 1 minute in the park. Also, while on the first few visits to AK, you are amazed by the park and the beauty of the vegetation everywhere. But after that, with every visit you realize how little there is to do and for some reason the park just isn't as beautiful to me as it first was. I think it was just how completely different the park was when it first opened that made it so incredible. Also the tree is amazing and Disney pulling off something like Kilimanjaro was mind boggling. But, the rest of the park kinda sucks. Albeit the natural setting is AMAZING. I also think they should have themed the interior portions of EE more elaborately. It just hasn't held up for me as a must do at the resort.
    Also, you must have never been to the Studios park in Paris. I can have fun at any Disney or Universal park, but it is very, very poorly executed.
    one thing you can say about DCA, and I see a lot of people now rating it the best stateside 2nd gate, is that it is a BEAUTIFUL park with CarsLand and The Grizzly area and the attraction lineup is VERY strong when compared to every other park than DL.
    The biggest advantage of having just 2 parks is that DLR parks just plane get more rides.
    look at DCA for example.
    Soarin is in EPCOT, TOT and Midway Mania are at the Studios, Little Mermaid is at MK and the raft ride and ITTBAB are at Hollywood Studios.
    Well, all of those rides and attractions are in DCA alone.
    This is the main reason I don't want a 5th gate in Orlando.
    This made me laugh. I love DLR. It's one of my favorite places to visit in the world. I even mentioned in my post that I love DCA. However, out of the Disney parks I have been to (haven't been to France) I would consider DCA the "worst" (again, I still love it) just because of a myriad of issues it has when compared to the other parks I've visited. That's not to say its bad, just not up to the standards of what I personally consider a solid Disney park.

    Maybe it would make you feel better to know I think Disneyland is the best.

    i think you need to calm down and take a break from the boards for a bit. I haven't taken anything seriously OR personally at all...you seem quite a bit offended, however, and that's just no fun for anyone. It's just a theme park discussion dude....

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    • #22
      Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

      Originally posted by soundtracker View Post
      To avoid any further arguments, would it be possible to amend the poll to include ten parks (eg. all except DL or Tokyo DisneySea) but specify that anyone wanting to vote fir this 'missing' park can simply do so by listing it in their post? And maybe, just to add a little depth, invite people to explain exactly WHY they dislike a particular park and offer some suggestions for realistic improvements.
      This is a good idea. I personally picked DCA because for one, I haven't been to Paris. Secondly, it's still a disjointed theme park that lacks a good layout or theme. While the same can be said about DHS, I personally enjoy the movie backlot theme and can get behind a whole park based around that. I also enjoy how DHS highlights all major components of production. DCA has really lost the California vibe more than DHS has lost it's moviemaking vibe. Cars Land, while beautiful, seems tacked on, and I am very much against lands based on singular franchises.

      But the biggest problem to me are the sigh lines. Even from Cars Land, you can see the power lines outside of the park. Tower of Terror ruins parts of Cars Land and BVS. Parts of Paradise Pier are somewhat aesthetically unpleasant. And in PP, Anaheim is more visible than any sign of Disney theming.

      Again, this is all my opinion, and I really love DCA...but it still has its issues that the other parks do not have, which outweigh their flaws in my eyes.

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      • #23
        Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

        And Dinoland doesn't seem tacked on? For me it is the most out of place, vastly different area from the rest of the park of any area in any Disney park.
        Also, where do you actually figure in quality and number of attractions to the argument? In that department, Hollywood Studios and AK aren't that far ahead of of The Studios Park in Paris. Hopefully that is going to change with Avatar and Star Wars. I can't wait, even though I would definitely rather see something in AK besides Avatar. This will REALLY get me excited about WDW again which has become soooooo stale for us. On our last trip over Thanksgiving, Universal was by far the most fun we had. I'm past ready for something major beside a new DVC to hit the Orlando parks. I'm very excited to see what happens. Unfortunately, it looks like the DLR is going to get another large investment before WDW sees anything new.
        Also, I think I'm the only person actually excited about Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. I love a themed coaster and especially one my whole family can ride together. I think this attraction is going to surprise a lot of people.

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        • #24
          Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

          Originally posted by TylerDurden View Post
          This made me laugh. I love DLR. It's one of my favorite places to visit in the world . . . haven't been to France) I would consider DCA the "worst" (again, I still love it). . . Maybe it would make you feel better to know I think Disneyland is the best. . .
          Tyler, I like the enthusiasm. Do not go to the Walt Disney Studio Park next to Disneyland Paris. It might ruin your perfect record of loving all Disney parks.

          I've liked DCA from my first visit the year it opened for two reasons:
          1. I went in with extremely low expectations, so Soarin', the rapids, the smoothness of California Screamin' and the view of the ferris wheel all happily surprised me. And the Grand Californian--where we love to hang out even though we've never stayed there--is practically part of the park. I also love the whole animation building, especially the lobby, but was that there the year DCA opened?
          2. I never did go on Superstar Limo, which--from the video I've seen on Youtube--is the worst ride in Disney history.

          And now there's Carsland, Aladdin, and the World of Color. So like you, Tyler, I love DCA. (Sorry you felt bashed when you were actually pretty upbeat.)

          As far as theming, maybe DCA's name should be changed to Disney's Incongruous Menagerie, just so we can refer to the DIM Imagineers. Actually, I really like each land in DCA so maybe Disney should just say, "We're doing our best with what we inherited from Pressler & Post-Wells Eisner, so it's mainly Disney's California Adventure because it's in California. We know theme is a weak point of this park, but here's an RSR Fastpass and a couple of drink coupons so you can view the park through beer goggles."

          I would like DCA's ToT replaced with a better attraction because it annoys me that it lacks WDW's hallway and always reminds me of how much better the older HM is. Yes, theme parks have made me more mature.

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          • #25
            Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

            Originally posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
            Disney Studios in Paris is still in that infancy stage - . . . DCA is a stand alone destination now, WDS isn't. . .
            This WDS "infant" in Paris is over 11 years old, just 13 months younger than DCA. DCA's puberty is like Disneyland's (circa '67) or WDW's in the early 80s--pretty impressive. (And how nice for Tokyo that its parks are the only Disney parks to never need rehabilitation.)

            Always practically perfect: Tokyo
            Impressively upgraded & currently excellent: Anaheim (Ignore Tomorrowland, please.)
            In need of restoration more extensive than the MK's new Fantasyland: WDW & Paris.

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            • #26
              Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

              Originally posted by DLRDAD View Post
              And Dinoland doesn't seem tacked on? For me it is the most out of place, vastly different area from the rest of the park of any area in any Disney park.
              Also, where do you actually figure in quality and number of attractions to the argument? In that department, Hollywood Studios and AK aren't that far ahead of of The Studios Park in Paris. Hopefully that is going to change with Avatar and Star Wars. I can't wait, even though I would definitely rather see something in AK besides Avatar. This will REALLY get me excited about WDW again which has become soooooo stale for us. On our last trip over Thanksgiving, Universal was by far the most fun we had. I'm past ready for something major beside a new DVC to hit the Orlando parks. I'm very excited to see what happens. Unfortunately, it looks like the DLR is going to get another large investment before WDW sees anything new.
              Also, I think I'm the only person actually excited about Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. I love a themed coaster and especially one my whole family can ride together. I think this attraction is going to surprise a lot of people.
              Yep, Dinoland sucks but its attached to arguably one of the most beautifully-executed parks on the planet. Animal Kingdom is gorgeous beyond that, yet I'm still a sucker for Dinosaur.

              Do DHS and DAK have less rides than DCA? Yes. But where in DCA can you observe live animals in authentic habitats? People who call DAK a half-day park aren't appreciative of the environment Disney created. You could easily spend a full day looking at animals alone (ever heard of a zoo?), and exploring trails. The rides they do have are top-notch, excluding Dino-Rama, and enhance the overall experience rather than take away from it.

              DHS is harder to defend but I've spent the whole day there before a loved every second of it, not feeling bored once. But I'm a sucker for the movie backlot theme so this may be chalked up to bias. Still, it's not like DCA obliterates DHS' attraction count with high quality rides...a majority of rides at DCA are carnival rides. Lets compare E-tickets:
              -RnRC=Screamin
              -Superior ToT=Inferior ToT
              -TSMM=TSMM
              -Star Tours=Soarin
              RSR has no comparison, but neither does the criminally-underrated Great Movie Ride. I also love the stunt shows DHS offers.

              I see DCA's merits, its just my opinion (again, no need to get offended) that its numerous issues don't make up for all the good things it has going for it.

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              • #27
                Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                As someone who has visited all 11 parks within the last 8 months... the answer is WDS. I'm curious if anyone has actually been to WDS and would not rank it first?

                It's just like asking what the best Disney Park worldwide is. Realistically the only acceptable answers are Tokyo Disney Sea or Disneyland. Nostalgia, a gluttony of attractions and better merch being Disneyland's true edge.

                Let's be fair though, WDS is not really a Disney theme park, it is a temporary travelling carnival since EuroDisney was forced to build something there. There is no permanency and it shows.

                Sure lots of other Disney parks have their problems, but there are certainly elements worth saving. There is not a single thing in WDS that couldn't be bulldozed or at least packed away in storage to be redeployed in a more sensible cohesive way.

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                • #28
                  Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                  TylerDurden, when directly comparing DCAs ride count vs's DHS, you left off GRR, an e-ticket and arguably the best raft ride on the planet and considerably better than the raft ride at AK. You also left off 2 good, fantasyland style dark rides in MONSTERS INC. and Little Mermaid which is currently extremely popular at WDW. Also, Maters is a very good Disney level of spinner, equal in experience to the Tea Cups or Dumbo. So you see, DCA,s attraction count is VASTLY superior to DHS.

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                  • #29
                    Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                    Originally posted by DLRDAD View Post
                    TylerDurden, when directly comparing DCAs ride count vs's DHS, you left off GRR, an e-ticket and arguably the best raft ride on the planet and considerably better than the raft ride at AK. You also left off 2 good, fantasyland style dark rides in MONSTERS INC. and Little Mermaid which is currently extremely popular at WDW. Also, Maters is a very good Disney level of spinner, equal in experience to the Tea Cups or Dumbo. So you see, DCA,s attraction count is VASTLY superior to DHS.
                    But the sight lines and coherency at DHS are vastly superior to DCA's...in PP, you see more of Anaheim than you do Disney theming. That's a huge problem in my book, that none of the Florida parks have.

                    I also prefer the dining at DHS, it's my second-favorite lineup of restaurants besides Epcot.

                    Furthermore, the attractions I did compare are superior to their DCA counterparts...RnRC is better than Screamin, ToT at DHS is better, Star Tours is better than Soarin (a shell of its former self), TSMM at DHS has a superior queue, and GMR blows the dark rides at DCA out of the water. The Muppets also has a better theatre at DHS. Cars Land is great and has no comparison, but its a land based off of one franchise which I still think is a mistake, and there are many issues with the sight lines inside when not facing RSR (again, a problem nonexistent at the WDW parks).

                    Also, just because there are a lot of shows at DHS in lieu of rides doesn't mean it's lacking. LMA and Indy are more thrilling than Mater or the other carnival rides at DCA, IMO. The Walf Disney walk through is also unique and very neat.

                    DCA is by no means a bad park, but I think it has a lot of fundamental issues that aren't present at DHS.

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                    • #30
                      Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                      Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post
                      I didn't think the Tokyo parks and the two at the Anaheim resort really had a shot at winning this,
                      and EPCOT is still at least a shadow of it's magnificent former self,
                      and the MK's 17 million visitors can't be wrong on a poll in the WDW section.

                      What's unfair is the depression I felt after I paid admission to enter Disney's Paris studios park.

                      I guess if I had created a "Best Saturday Night Live cast member of all time" poll, I'd have "unfairly" left off Chris Kattan, even though he was talented and funny, and if I discussed greatest NFL franchises of all time, the [insert team with fewest crazy fans] might not have been on the list.
                      There are 11 Disney Parks and only up 10 ten poll options, so at least one had to go.


                      I don't really see now anyone who's been the the Paris studios park could vote for another. It's the only Disney park I don't like, and I hate it. I'm talkin' a Roger Ebert's review of Rob Reiner's "North" level of hatred.

                      I suggest reading the review. Here's an excerpt: "I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience by its belief that anyone would be entertained by it."

                      Roger Ebert Reviews North - YouTube

                      (A better clip would be Belzer, then Rob Reiner himself, reading Ebert's North review at a Rob Reiner roast, but I didn't come across that.)

                      I cannot believe your getting heat for this. Your list is fine. The topic was select the worst Disney Park and not rank all the Disney parks. In selecting the worst one, clearly a handful of them would not be considerable. I thought your list was fine. I prob would have even left off DAK.

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                      • #31
                        Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                        Originally posted by BrianLo View Post
                        As someone who has visited all 11 parks within the last 8 months... the answer is WDS. I'm curious if anyone has actually been to WDS and would not rank it first?
                        . . .
                        I'm with you, Brian! Pretty cool you visited all 11 parks in 8 months.
                        Now singing: I wanna be like you-oo-oo!

                        Kidgenie, THANK YOU for your post
                        #30 before this one!

                        A problem can't be solved till it's recognized, and with this poll I wanted someone at Disney who cares (maybe an Imagineer who cares enough to read Micechat) to hear from some Disney fans.

                        I think the best solution for Disney parks would be to bring back Universal's Steve Burke to be Disney's CEO and hire Matt Ouimet to run Disney's outdoor entertainment division. Neither of these impressive former Disney executives might want to leave their current gigs.
                        (Steve is the quick builder of Universal Orlando's ambitious Harry Potter areas and Matt saved Disneyland for its 50th anniversary and now runs Cedar Fair.)

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                        • #32
                          Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                          I appreciate your intention, but I can promise you that Disney realise they have a serious flop on their hands with WDS Paris. It's the least visited Disney park on the planet and has been losing money since day one. They'd love to fix it and have drawn up several master plans over the years but their hands have been tied when it comes to finances. Now that the Walt Disney Company have bought the resort's debt , we're hopefully on the road to recovery and the park will really start to expand.
                          Originally posted by fizzog
                          Soundtracker you cheeky chipmunk

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                          • #33
                            Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                            I don't know too mush about DLS Paris , the only info I could find was about the toy story area :blush:

                            What's so wrong about the park?
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                            • #34
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                              Everything. The only water in the entire park is a small fountain in the entrance plaza. The moon has more atmosphere.

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                              • #35
                                Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                                Originally posted by MactheMan View Post
                                Everything. The only water in the entire park is a small fountain in the entrance plaza. The moon has more atmosphere.

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                                Wow! that's the hole entry plaza? looks pretty rancid

                                At first I thought DLS was a section of DLP , then I read it was a separete park and tried to look for info on it but it only showed the toy story expasion
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                                • #36
                                  Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                                  I've been to 9 of the 11 parks (everywhere except California) and I would say WDS is by far the 'least good'. However, it's a difficult thing to say, because it does have some great attractions (Tower of Terror, Rock and Rollercoaster, Cinemagique, Crush's Coaster). It's just the theming of the whole park is nowhere near what you'd expect from a Disney park. The atmosphere is reminiscent of a parking lot. It's like a third-rate regional park with a handful of Disney attractions thrown in.

                                  At least it is right next door to DLP, so it can be treated as just another land and you can park-hop between the two easily. If it was some distance away, like the parks are in WDW, then it would never have survived this long without some serious changes.

                                  Ratatouille will be great, but the whole park needs some serious place-making like they did with DCA. I can't help thinking that in its current form, it actually damages the Disney brand.

                                  There's an interesting comparison with HKDL (before the recent new lands). Like WDS, that is(was) very small, with very few attractions. BUT the park is beautiful, interesting, has the 'Disney atmosphere' and is a great place to spend some time. Whereas WDS is not the kind of place where you'd want to sit on a bench and take in the atmosphere.

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                                  • #37
                                    ^ Exactly.

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                                    • #38
                                      Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                                      I hope Shanghai Disneyland will not receive votes if it's listed on a poll like this in a few years.
                                      Last edited by jcruise86; 11-07-2013, 05:39 PM.

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                                      • #39
                                        Re: What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                                        I have to agree with everything above that has been said about WDS. It has some great rides, but there is really no atmosphere. I expect to find magic at a disneypark, there is no magic at the WDS once you get through the gate. I really hope they come up with a masterplan to fix this. Hopefully the WDC will be able to bring some magic to this park.

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                                        • #40
                                          What's Disney's worst park on Earth?

                                          Welcome to Micechat, Stitch2002!

                                          You're off to a great start because you share my opinion on Paris' Walt Disney Studio Park! )


                                          * * * * *

                                          Why have so many of you voted for Disney's Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World?
                                          Although this thread indicates that the studios in Paris are worse, Disney's Florida studios park is clearly second in the derisive laughing place of shame on this thread. Why?
                                          Maybe it's because I'm a movie-loving cinema school grad, or maybe it's because I LOVE the Walt exhibit, the hallway you ride down in that Tower of Terror, the Indy stunt show, and all the movie stuff including the Great Movie Ride,
                                          OR maybe it's because I never saw the inferior climactic boat celebration in Fantasmic,
                                          OR maybe it's because I haven't been there in over 10 years and it hasn't been kept up (Is that true?), but
                                          I liked this park. Please explain to me what needs to be fixed there.
                                          At least this studios park made me feel like I was in a Disney park, which cannot be said of Paris' hideous, barren, depressing studios park.
                                          I'd guess the reason it received so many votes (though at this time less than 25% of the votes that The Walt Disney Studios Park in Paris received: 62 to 15 at this point), is because this thread is in the WDW section and many readers haven't seen the depressing mess in Paris.

                                          * * * * *

                                          Maybe Disneyland Paris' proximity to Paris, the most beautiful major city in the world, makes one judge the studios more harshly. Fortunately there's no third-rate "Disney park" like Paris' studios next to San Francisco.
                                          Last edited by jcruise86; 12-19-2013, 04:05 AM.

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