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  • [Question] Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

    http:///rumor-disney-and-wa...-disney-parks/

    I think it'd interesting to see what LotR would look like in a theme park, but I personally don't want it in a Disney park, and definitely don't the Walt Disney Company to make a habit of buying movie franchises and bringing them into the fold.

    http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201310/3739/

    To repeat Robert Niles' question from the second link, Would you like to see Lord of the Rings in a Disney theme park, a Universal theme park, or a theme park anywhere else in the world?


  • #2
    Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

    If Disney could buy the Middle Earth franchise, it would be Game Over, Man. Game Over.

    Here's my PERSONAL fantasyland reboot. Discworld.

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      Bob Iger would consider "getting" the Rings to be a creative accomplishment. ("Uh, how about FIVE billion?")

      As with Harry Pottter, some readers are Lord of the Rings fans and some aren't. I'm not alone in not loving the rings, the great Roald Dahl (
      in "Matilda" I think) criticized Tolkien for his lack of humor. Yes, you find Tokien HILARIOUS! I wish I did.

      So I'll be the lone freak who's glad Disney didn't "get" Tolkien. (As if acquiring exclusive rights to legendary story IPs were like getting smaller or medium-sized software companies or airlines.) BTW, does Bob Iger think of "Help," Yesterday," "Here Comes the Sun," "Helter Skelter," and "For No One" as Michael Jackson songs because MJ owned them for a limited time?

      Until recently, Disney mostly just sat on the Muppets after they "got" them long ago. I guess they didn't really get (appreciate) them, because for a couple of decades after Eisner "got" their cool, Chaplin studios on LaBrea, the world didn't see enough of Miss Piggy. Jason Segal's wonderful Muppet movie pointed out how dusty they had become after Disney got them. The hands had pretty much left the Muppets who were locked up in silence or performing excellent, but old shows in (3 or 4?) theme park theaters.

      In DCA's "Aladdin" this summer, one Genie joked about Disney getting EVERYTHING. But despite the magic some feel at being stuck with WDW's overpriced burgers, churros, etc. when effectively trapped in the middle of Disney World, there is more competition when there are 20 producers than when there are 2.
      I liked Las Vegas more in the 90s before just a three companies seemed to get all of the huge casinos. Even Adam Smith warned in 1776 that "large producers could dominate markets and operate either as monopolies or as cartels." ("The Economics Book" by DK.)

      And New Zealand already has some tourism from these Lord of the Rings movies.
      ("Ewwww. It' ourdoorsy & doesn't have rides and theme-related unhealthy junk food!" . . .
      "Would you like to
      Hulk-size your meal?") )

      So, again, please put me down as a "No, thank you" on the Rings at Disney.

      Rings & tall blue people make
      THING & Chewy mad.

      Trivia fun: who is the world's biggest "Lord of the Rings" fan?
      Spoiler
      Steven Colbert


      --Tom Sinsky
      Last edited by jcruise86; 10-26-2013, 05:29 AM. Reason: typo

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        [QUOTE=jcruise86;1057040484]
        ...despite the magic some feel at being stuck with WDW's overpriced ... churros,...
        [
        /QUOTE]

        Let's not go inciting any riots now, ok?

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        • #5
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          A LOTR Park will have to be the 5th Park. There is no way it can fit in the existing 4 parks thematically or for space reasons, but should it be a standalone park or part of an overall theme? It can be Tolkien-Land, but who will go just for it alone? Maybe it can be paired with another property like an Oz-Land. It will feature the Two Towers.... One one side, the Eye of Sauron, on the other side, the Emerald City.

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          • #6
            Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

            Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post
            Bob Iger would consider "getting" the Rings to be a creative accomplishment. ("Uh, how about FIVE billion?")

            As with Harry Pottter, some reader are Lord of the Rings fans and some aren't. I'm not alone in not loving the rings, the great Roald Dahl (
            in "Matilda" I think) criticized Tolkien for his lack of humor. Yes, you find Tokien HILARIOUS! I wish I did.

            So I'll be the lone freak who's glad Disney didn't "get" Tolkien. (As if acquiring exclusive rights to legendary story IPs were like getting smaller or medium-sized software companies or airlines.) BTW, does Bob Iger think of "Help," Yesterday," "Here Comes the Sun," "Helter Skelter," and "For No One" as Michael Jackson songs?

            Until recently, Disney mostly just sat on the Muppets after they "got" them long ago. I guess they didn't really get (appreciate) them, because for a couple of decades after Eisner "got" their cool, Chaplin studios on LaBrea, the world didn't see enough of Miss Piggy. Jason Segal's wonderful Muppet movie pointed out how dusty they had become after Disney got them. The hands had pretty much left the Muppets who were locked up in silence or performing excellent, but old shows in (3 or 4?) theme park theaters.

            In DCA's "Aladdin" this summer, one Genie joked about Disney getting EVERYTHING. But despite the magic some feel at being stuck with WDW's overpriced burgers, churros, etc. when effectively trapped in the middle of Disney World, there is more competition when there are 20 producers than when there are 2.
            I liked Las Vegas more in the 90s before just a three companies seemed to get all of the huge casinos. Even Adam Smith warned in 1776 that "large producers could dominate markets and operate either as monopolies or as cartels." ("The Economics Book" by DK.)

            And New Zealand already has some tourism from these Lord of the Rings movies.
            ("Ewwww. It' ourdoorsy & doesn't have rides and theme-related unhealthy junk food!" . . .
            "Would you like to
            Hulk-size your meal?") )

            So, again, please put me down as a "No, thank you" on the Rings at Disney.

            Rings & tall blue people make
            THING & Chewy mad.

            --Tom Sinsky
            Great post jcruise!

            Your quips about Iger crack me up, and are spot on.

            Like I said in my original post, I hope they don't acquire the rights to LotR too. As so many continually state here on MiceChat: Disney needs to learn to be creative and original again!

            I also agree there was not enough Muppets for a long time, or at least not enough quality Muppets. Though I was really disappointed with Segel's film (so many things bother me about that movie), you do bring up a good point of how the film pointed out how they had started to fade, and helped to make them relevant again. At the D23 Expo I was able to see lots exclusive footage of the upcoming Muppets film, and it looks hysterical! I would love to see some new, fun Muppets attractions in the parks, or at the very, very least an updated Muppets show, perhaps in the style of the original The Muppet Show.

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            • #7
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              Is this a trick question? Tt would ridiculous of them to do so however, with the ca$hola this business makes, it doesn't suit them other than trying to make more profit & essentially being greedy like they already are.

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              • #8
                Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                It's a fading property. Unlike Muppets, Star Wars, and Indy which grew and have more room to grow. Avatar is the same we are getting more movies.

                If the price isn't high or they make more movies it could be worth it.
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                • #9
                  Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                  I never heard about The Hobbits numbers.It came out after the LoTRs. Did it make any money in N. America, and overseas? I saw it, loved it, but a good way to tell if its a "fading property", might be based on how the Hobbit did. Anyone know?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                    Originally posted by redrhino54 View Post
                    I never heard about The Hobbits numbers.It came out after the LoTRs. Did it make any money in N. America, and overseas? I saw it, loved it, but a good way to tell if its a "fading property", might be based on how the Hobbit did. Anyone know?
                    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) - Box Office Mojo

                    Box Office Mojo (site linked above) puts it at a bit over 303 million.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                      Originally posted by swampymarsh View Post
                      It's a fading property. Unlike Muppets, Star Wars, and Indy which grew and have more room to grow. Avatar is the same we are getting more movies.

                      If the price isn't high or they make more movies it could be worth it.
                      Fading property? IF they make more movies? The Hobbit came out close to a year ago and they've got another one on the way... what the heck are you talking about? Hahahaha!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                        I would hope not, but my opinion is that Tolkein was overly wordy and rambling and pretty near unreadable so a land based on his works would not draw me in at all.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                          How about if they make two more?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                            Originally posted by BogLurch View Post
                            The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) - Box Office Mojo

                            Box Office Mojo (site linked above) puts it at a bit over 303 million.
                            Cool, thanks !
                            Domestic: $303,003,568 29.8%
                            + Foreign: $714,000,000 70.2%
                            Over a billion bucks, not bad for a "fading property".....lol

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                              Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                              I heard that the Tolkien Estate won't sell the rights, no matter the price.
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                              • #16
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                                ORDDU: This is not an idea my sisters and I would like. We prefer Disney movies be showcased within Disney theme parks and that is all.

                                ORWEN: Yeah! We don't need Kermit, Miss Piggy or ANYTHING from Marvel!!!! We like Disney for what it is--not what it isn't!

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                                • #17
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                                  N.O. NO NO NO. DO NOT WANT. Bad enough we got Avatar. Not a LOTR fan.

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                                  • #18
                                    Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                                    Tolkien himself was not much of a Disney fan.

                                    Gobbling up film franchises to base theme park lands and attractions on is a very Universal Studios approach to things. Disney historically saw the theme park as a form of entertainment in its own right and didn't see the need to rely on its film properties for cross promotion once it got the ball rolling. Sadly, those days seem to be gone.

                                    As for where it would fit in thematically, why the Animal Kingdom of course because Middle Earth has lots of trees and Lord of the Rings is about conservation. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go beat myself unconscious.
                                    It bothers me when people selectively edit quotes to support whatever point they are trying to prove.
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                                    • #19
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                                      do i want to see LOTR in a themepark, yes. do i want disney to have it, no. the disney brand just doesn't fit the work, it would be so watered down and pg-ified that it wouldn't ever be the same. if they were willing to do it justice as peter jackson did in the films then by all means but i doubt that would occur. just too scary for the kids.

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: Would you want Disney to get Lord of the Rings?

                                        Originally posted by LordVader View Post
                                        I heard that the Tolkien Estate won't sell the rights, no matter the price.
                                        It would be smart for Disney to try anyway. Throw a few billion at them. Hobbit will enter the public domain in 2032 anyway.

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