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  • [Question] Is deep underwater illusion possible?

    In looking at photos from the ride 20K Under the Sea in MK as well as Nemo Submarine Voyage(r.i.p.) at DL, it occurred to me that there must be no technique available to prevent people from seeing the surface of the water. For instance, in The Seas at Epcot, it would be great if you couldn't see the surface of the water, as well as, overhead work lights, etc. up above. It destroys the illusion. Is there anything that could remedy this?

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    Re: Is deep underwater illusion possible?

    Have you seen how Tokyo DisneySea did their version of 20K? They do a "dry for wet" effect. The show scenes are totally dry, but the lighting, coupled with a bit of water between the windows in the mini-sub ride vehicles makes for a pretty decent effect.



    It's apparently hard to get a decent video of the ride because it's pretty dark.

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      Re: Is deep underwater illusion possible?

      Isn't this just a sight lines issue? On subs, just angle the portholes in a manner where you can't look up and its not a big issue for sets within close distances.

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        Re: Is deep underwater illusion possible?

        Originally posted by Awe_inspired View Post
        In looking at photos from the ride 20K Under the Sea in MK as well as Nemo Submarine Voyage(r.i.p.) at DL, it occurred to me that there must be no technique available to prevent people from seeing the surface of the water. For instance, in The Seas at Epcot, it would be great if you couldn't see the surface of the water, as well as, overhead work lights, etc. up above. It destroys the illusion. Is there anything that could remedy this?
        Make the viewer further down from the water line...
        Reduce the depth of the scene you see...
        Force the viewer to look more down through the window...
        Block the water line with something that is supposed to be submersed itself (think caverns, etc)

        All of them are basic sight-line issues.

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          Re: Is deep underwater illusion possible?

          Thanks all.
          Aimster,
          I have seen photos of that at DisneySea and it looks very cool.
          Rave, yes, you're right.
          Flynnibus, are you talking about having something submerged to prevent people from seeing the surface in The Sea too? That would seem to remedy it. It would be great if they could create the effect visually of us being really deep underwater as well.

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            Re: Is deep underwater illusion possible?

            Originally posted by Awe_inspired View Post
            In looking at photos from the ride 20K Under the Sea in MK as well as Nemo Submarine Voyage(r.i.p.) at DL, it occurred to me that there must be no technique available to prevent people from seeing the surface of the water. For instance, in The Seas at Epcot, it would be great if you couldn't see the surface of the water, as well as, overhead work lights, etc. up above. It destroys the illusion. Is there anything that could remedy this?
            This is the same problem that The Little Mermaid ride has (particularly with the "Under the Sea" sequence) that I would love to see addressed.

            Now if you want to make The Seas w/Nemo a truly awesome ride, just make it 3D. I would love to have the fish look like they're really swimming along with me.

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