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  • #21
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    Cassie, I have to reluctantly agree with all your comments. I just got back from my first WDW trip (2/24-2/27). I stayed at the Wilderness Lodge, which was nice and convenient to MK and the highlight of my stay. Although I wish they had some nighttime entertainment.
    My first day went to MK and enjoyed the scale and detail in the architecture and thought the Jungle cruise and fireworks were better than DL. Unfortunately that was really the only things that stood out for me. Huge crowds, FP+ stinks(3 attractions per day, what a joke). Trying to get something to eat was crazy. I left and went back to my hotel to eat.

    On the second day we went DHS. I was completely underwhelmed by what they had for attractions. The great movie ride was a total snoozefest and the backlot tour was closed for refurb. Beauty and Beast show was comically bad. I will say that crowd level was very low and pleasant.

    On our third day we went to DAK. This was my favorite park by far. Medium crowd levels and the Animal exhibits were very well done. The tree of life and Everest were both very impressive. However, this is essentially just a nice zoo, which I can get down in San Diego and don't need to go across country to see.

    I can now say I have been to WDW and have no desire to return. I am already planning my next trip to DLR.

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    • #22
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      Originally posted by RosevilleDisfan View Post
      Cassie, I have to reluctantly agree with all your comments. I just got back from my first WDW trip (2/24-2/27). I stayed at the Wilderness Lodge, which was nice and convenient to MK and the highlight of my stay. Although I wish they had some nighttime entertainment.
      My first day went to MK and enjoyed the scale and detail in the architecture and thought the Jungle cruise and fireworks were better than DL. Unfortunately that was really the only things that stood out for me. Huge crowds, FP+ stinks(3 attractions per day, what a joke). Trying to get something to eat was crazy. I left and went back to my hotel to eat.

      On the second day we went DHS. I was completely underwhelmed by what they had for attractions. The great movie ride was a total snoozefest and the backlot tour was closed for refurb. Beauty and Beast show was comically bad. I will say that crowd level was very low and pleasant.

      On our third day we went to DAK. This was my favorite park by far. Medium crowd levels and the Animal exhibits were very well done. The tree of life and Everest were both very impressive. However, this is essentially just a nice zoo, which I can get down in San Diego and don't need to go across country to see.

      I can now say I have been to WDW and have no desire to return. I am already planning my next trip to DLR.
      Wow.. I could not disagree with your take more if I tried...

      I would go into explaining why but I don't want to offend you.
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      • #23
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        I hear you guys and wish I could change things to entice you to love WDW as much as we do.

        As SoCal natives, who grew up in Disneyland, we came to WDW with the highest expectations. Where Disneyland is surrounded by the cold, dirty reality of Anaheim, WDW is a totally immersive experience more akin to traveling to an exotic destination.

        Magic Kingdom is super-saturated with things to do and AK and DHS need to work toward closing the enormous gap. That said, I think people come to WDW expecting...I don't know what? Something unrealistic.

        We just bought into DVC, which gives us the ability to enjoy all six parks for less than $500 per year. WDW is a place to truly escape from the world around you and forget some of your troubles - if only for a couple of days. I dare say that you don't get that experience in the California parks, where a monorail ride quickly reminds you of the despair that resides just outside the berm.
        ~ Erik

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        • #24
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          I am not sure where all this HS does not have much to do... We have to spend almost 2 full days to really do everything. It is such a show heavy park.. and it should be.. its about movies and hollywood..

          I think anyone that says the Great Movie Ride and Beauty and the Beast is a joke is dillusional... sorry.. I could do both of those things multiple times in a day...

          I completely agree that the DL people have this expectation of WDW that is impossible to achieve.. I am not sure I will ever make it to DL... the area is filthy.. airfare is atrocious, and its off a a highway giving it a feel of just a regular amusement park..

          I feel bad for DL fand having these feeling of WDW but I think so many of them are so off base from what WDW is actually like.
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          • #25
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            I don't find the Disneyland area to be negative in anyway. Perhaps because the area surrounding the park reminds me of my own neighborhood here in Chicago. I can navigate there, pretty easily, and I have always felt safe. As far as expensive. The airfare to California, for me is actually quite similar to my airfare to Orlando. I have vacationed in both locations numerous times, and I have my favorites. I guess that's just human nature.
            BarbaraAnn

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            • #26
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              Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
              I am not sure where all this HS does not have much to do... We have to spend almost 2 full days to really do everything. It is such a show heavy park.. and it should be.. its about movies and hollywood..

              I think anyone that says the Great Movie Ride and Beauty and the Beast is a joke is dillusional... sorry.. I could do both of those things multiple times in a day...

              I completely agree that the DL people have this expectation of WDW that is impossible to achieve.. I am not sure I will ever make it to DL... the area is filthy.. airfare is atrocious, and its off a a highway giving it a feel of just a regular amusement park..

              I feel bad for DL fand having these feeling of WDW but I think so many of them are so off base from what WDW is actually like.
              I thought DHS was okay, but yes, it is very show heavy park and for my limited time, I didn't plan my days around them so I missed most of them. GMR was interesting, but being on the younger side, I haven't seen many of the highlighted movies, but I still enjoyed it. It's not a repeat attraction for me, but still enjoyable.

              Now ow as for Anaheim being filthy and off the highway, yes, it's off the highway, and sure there are areas that aren't super nice kind of close, but there is far more magic there then in the bubble of WDW. If you are looking for complete escape from the real world, wdw would probably be a better option for you. I still think DLR, while not blocking you off from the whole world, gives a better experience. And personally, since I live about 4 miles away, I love the fact that it's in the middle of a city.

              I kind of wish I had gone to WDW last May when I was considering it but I opted for this Feb instead. I think the WDW that you all think is so much better has been lost under the FP+ transition. Maybe I would have experienced more magic back in May...
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              • #27
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                Originally posted by Erik Olson View Post
                I hear you guys and wish I could change things to entice you to love WDW as much as we do.

                As SoCal natives, who grew up in Disneyland, we came to WDW with the highest expectations. Where Disneyland is surrounded by the cold, dirty reality of Anaheim, WDW is a totally immersive experience more akin to traveling to an exotic destination.

                Magic Kingdom is super-saturated with things to do and AK and DHS need to work toward closing the enormous gap. That said, I think people come to WDW expecting...I don't know what? Something unrealistic.

                We just bought into DVC, which gives us the ability to enjoy all six parks for less than $500 per year. WDW is a place to truly escape from the world around you and forget some of your troubles - if only for a couple of days. I dare say that you don't get that experience in the California parks, where a monorail ride quickly reminds you of the despair that resides just outside the berm.
                where is SoCal did you live that makes Anaheim seem dirty, cold, and despairing? Sounds like something a South County person would say about an average city.

                Personally, I was not a fan of the WDW bubble, and renting a car was the best thing I did all week. I enjoyed my side trip to Universal, I enjoyed driving there, seeing more than just disney foliage from an overcrowded bus...
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                • #28
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                  Newport Beach, Fullerton. By the way, Disney himself came to really regret Anaheim. His inability to isolate the park from the opportunistic businesses that popped up all around it catalyzed The Florida Project. So, I'm not alone in that opinion.
                  ~ Erik

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                  • #29
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                    Originally posted by Erik Olson View Post
                    His inability to isolate the park from the opportunistic businesses that popped up all around it catalyzed The Florida Project.
                    No, his desire to build EPCOT was behind the FL Project.
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                    • #30
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                      Originally posted by CassiefRN View Post
                      I thought DHS was okay, but yes, it is very show heavy park and for my limited time, I didn't plan my days around them so I missed most of them. GMR was interesting, but being on the younger side, I haven't seen many of the highlighted movies, but I still enjoyed it. It's not a repeat attraction for me, but still enjoyable.

                      Now ow as for Anaheim being filthy and off the highway, yes, it's off the highway, and sure there are areas that aren't super nice kind of close, but there is far more magic there then in the bubble of WDW. If you are looking for complete escape from the real world, wdw would probably be a better option for you. I still think DLR, while not blocking you off from the whole world, gives a better experience. And personally, since I live about 4 miles away, I love the fact that it's in the middle of a city.

                      I kind of wish I had gone to WDW last May when I was considering it but I opted for this Feb instead. I think the WDW that you all think is so much better has been lost under the FP+ transition. Maybe I would have experienced more magic back in May...

                      No for me.. I dont see the FP+ as a deal breaker.. especially if you stay on property where you can get stuff planned ahead of time.. I will say people that know the layout and such do have an advantage over people that have never been..

                      Also, my family has a situaiton where we can use a disability pass.. that I admit does help.. however, I think the FP+ system can and will work just fine.. Part of the thing with WDW is if you are there when it is insaine.. FP or no FP its going to be long lines.. there are no ways around it.
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                      • #31
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                        Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
                        No for me.. I dont see the FP+ as a deal breaker.. especially if you stay on property where you can get stuff planned ahead of time.. I will say people that know the layout and such do have an advantage over people that have never been..

                        Also, my family has a situaiton where we can use a disability pass.. that I admit does help.. however, I think the FP+ system can and will work just fine.. Part of the thing with WDW is if you are there when it is insaine.. FP or no FP its going to be long lines.. there are no ways around it.
                        I stayed on property and did a tremendous amount of planning despite it being my first trip. I went the first week of feb with crowd predictions of 2-4. Lines seemed extremely long to me, but that is based off of my disneyland experience. The lines I encountered were more on par with 7-9 crowd days at DL...30 minutes for PotC and HM? An hour for JC, SM, BTMRR, all during the week, midday? With lines like that, and the limit of 3 FP, makes for frustrating waits. I was at RD every day so I did get to do most rides, but it was very limiting, especially for someone used to utilizing FP to never wait more than 15-30 minutes for a ride, like, ever. With you having a DAS card, you don't have the same limitations. I do not envy whatever situation your family member has that requires the use of it, but at the same time, you don't know what it's like to fully experience FP+ with all it's wonderful "pluses" like only one parkm tiering, no repeat rides...

                        Is it working, on a basic level, sure, it's functional. But there are flaws...errors on the app and website, the length it takes to scan the bands, causing backups of the lines pouring through the park (did you see the lines for FP returns over president's day?), CM frustration, guest frustration, and so on
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                        • #32
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                          Originally posted by calsig31 View Post
                          No, his desire to build EPCOT was behind the FL Project.
                          Okay, helped catalyze it. He openly lamented his neighbors in Anaheim. This is fact.
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                          • #33
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                            Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
                            I am not sure where all this HS does not have much to do... We have to spend almost 2 full days to really do everything. It is such a show heavy park.. and it should be.. its about movies and hollywood..

                            I think anyone that says the Great Movie Ride and Beauty and the Beast is a joke is dillusional... sorry.. I could do both of those things multiple times in a day...

                            I completely agree that the DL people have this expectation of WDW that is impossible to achieve.. I am not sure I will ever make it to DL... the area is filthy.. airfare is atrocious, and its off a a highway giving it a feel of just a regular amusement park..

                            I feel bad for DL fand having these feeling of WDW but I think so many of them are so off base from what WDW is actually like.
                            If you have never been to DL how do you know the area is "filthy" and the highway gives it the feel of a "regular amusement park"
                            I was stating my opinion about WDW from the perspective of someone who has been there. Your negative opinions about DL however come from no first hand experience. Everyone can have an opinion. You like WDW, great.
                            I've gone and decided it is not for me. You should be happy because it will be one less person to add to WDW crowds. You can keep WDW and I can keep DL and we can agree to disagree.

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                            • #34
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                              I'm sorry you had an underwhelming experience, but I think you just came to the resort at a bad time. If you do ever decide to give the place another chance you should plan your trip for some time between 1986 and 1992.
                              It bothers me when people selectively edit quotes to support whatever point they are trying to prove.
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                              • #35
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                                Originally posted by Dapper Dan View Post
                                I'm sorry you had an underwhelming experience, but I think you just came to the resort at a bad time. If you do ever decide to give the place another chance you should plan your trip for some time between 1986 and 1992.
                                Borrowing Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine.
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                                • #36
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                                  Destination America is promoting Disney all this week. Tonite I watched the program promoting the WDW hotels. I have stayed at some of them, and only wish that I could afford to visit them all. I'd really love to visit the new Art of Animation if I get back there soon.
                                  BarbaraAnn

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                                  • #37
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                                    Originally posted by RosevilleDisfan View Post
                                    If you have never been to DL how do you know the area is "filthy" and the highway gives it the feel of a "regular amusement park"
                                    I was stating my opinion about WDW from the perspective of someone who has been there. Your negative opinions about DL however come from no first hand experience. Everyone can have an opinion. You like WDW, great.
                                    I've gone and decided it is not for me. You should be happy because it will be one less person to add to WDW crowds. You can keep WDW and I can keep DL and we can agree to disagree.
                                    I didn't mean to come across as a jickyjack.. If I did I apologize. I didnt mean DL itself is dirty.. I am sure the park itself is clean as a whistle.. Its Disney.. of course it is clean.. I mean the area where DL is is filthy... Anehiem (spelling is wrong I know) is not clean from anyone that I know that has been there.

                                    I am not even saying I wouldnt like DL.. Cause I think I would.. Its just that I dont know if I ever will get there because it is so much more expensive to get there... every time I have priced DL out it came out to being MUCH more expensive than a WDW trip would be. I dont think I would enjoy staying at a place like the Holiday Inn for a Disney trip either... that is where my quote of a basic amusement park feel came from...

                                    I am not happy you didnt like WDW.. I dont want people to hate it so I can like it more... that is not what it is supposed to be like...
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                                    • #38
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                                      Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
                                      I didn't mean to come across as a jickyjack.. If I did I apologize. I didnt mean DL itself is dirty.. I am sure the park itself is clean as a whistle.. Its Disney.. of course it is clean.. I mean the area where DL is is filthy... Anehiem (spelling is wrong I know) is not clean from anyone that I know that has been there.

                                      I am not even saying I wouldnt like DL.. Cause I think I would.. Its just that I dont know if I ever will get there because it is so much more expensive to get there... every time I have priced DL out it came out to being MUCH more expensive than a WDW trip would be. I dont think I would enjoy staying at a place like the Holiday Inn for a Disney trip either... that is where my quote of a basic amusement park feel came from...

                                      I am not happy you didnt like WDW.. I dont want people to hate it so I can like it more... that is not what it is supposed to be like...

                                      For you, it's more expensive, but for half the country it's probably cheaper to fly to LA than FL. I can see added expense if staying onsite, as there are no disney owned "value" resorts, however many along harbor, while not being disney owned, are similarly priced to WDW value resorts while offering much more in terms in amenities, plus many are actually in walking distance to the park vs a 15 minute packed bus ride at WDW. My onsite resort stay at WDW had zero disney magic, so there would be nothing like that missing from an offsite stay at DLR. EMH are not as much if a perk as WDW, since they are just one hour in the morning. I have experienced both WDW and DLR, and I prefer my home park (as most people do, be it WDW or DLR). I really wanted to love WDW, but I didn't.

                                      I think you are being very unfair to judge the surrounding area do a park you have never been to. Like any large city, Anaheim has some extremely nice areas, some "dirty" areas, and most of it is average, American single family middle class homes. According to zillow, Anaheim Home Prices and Home Values - Zillow the median Anaheim home value is 450k...you don't pay that to live in a "filthy" area, even in Orange County, CA with high home values...
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                                      • #39
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                                        Hi. I almost felt guilty that I wasn’t impressed, intrigued or otherwise infatuated with WDW after a weeklong visit (August 2012.) We did love the resort, an experience you will not get in Anaheim, as well as the water park and our family had an awesome vacation. And we had entirely good CM interactions everywhere. We just didn’t love the parks.

                                        I would agree that the expectations are unintentionally unrealistic. I for one expected not just bigger, but better. And I left feeling it was….just bigger. I wouldn’t agree that MK is super-saturated though. Quite the opposite, and it’s not just about fewer attractions and longer lines. I knew that going in and planned accordingly. But the space isn’t as “filled”. Too few of all the touches that simply fill the DL landscape and are what “immerse” me in the Disney magic. So much of the charm was missing. As well, with a couple exceptions, the rides themselves did not stack up to DL’s. And while we enjoyed the World Showcase, we were overall disappointed with Epcot. I truly wish I had seen it in its heyday.

                                        In sum, I also prefer my home park and think most people do, whichever coast it’s on. And I also really wanted to love WDW (actually, I expected to love it), but to my surprise I didn't.

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                                        • #40
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                                          Originally posted by grnflash View Post

                                          In sum, I also prefer my home park and think most people do, whichever coast it’s on. And I also really wanted to love WDW (actually, I expected to love it), but to my surprise I didn't.
                                          This PERFECTLY sums up my visit and my sentiments.
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