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  • [Question] For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

    So the sun has set on WDW guests who collected E ticket Fastpasses for 4 or so of our very favorite attractions per day.

    With the new tiered system I can get just one FP for a favorite E-ticket
    and two other FPs for attractions I might not otherwise even visited.

    Since I still want to visit my favorite rides and shows, I want to learn on which of the best WDW rides and shows is FP least necessary these days?Opinions from guests who have visited in 2014 will be especially appreciated!

    Sorry I could only list ten rides/shows in the poll. Please add other suggestions in your post.

    You may vote for more one that one attraction, and your vote is public and may be used by potential employers to determine theme park compatibility & to red flag potential weirdos.
    59
    Pirates of the C because of its fast moving lines
    11.86%
    7
    Festival of the Lion King
    6.78%
    4
    Philharmagic
    5.08%
    3
    Spaceship Earth (later in the day)
    11.86%
    7
    The Peoplemover
    18.64%
    11
    Ellen's Energy Adventure
    16.95%
    10
    The Lands boat ride
    11.86%
    7
    The Haunted Mansion (& the Q is now more interesting)
    1.69%
    1
    The Country Bear Jamboree
    10.17%
    6
    The Voyage of the Little Mermaid
    5.08%
    3

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by jcruise86; 03-16-2014, 10:25 AM.

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    Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

    It's hard to say...with the tiering people are being pushed to lesser attractions, increasing lines where none used to exist. I waited 35 minutes for Pirates the first week of Feb.

    Also, fyi, FotLK is closed until summer, so no recent data on that
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    • #3
      Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

      Originally posted by CassiefRN View Post
      It's hard to say...with the tiering people are being pushed to lesser attractions, increasing lines where none used to exist. I waited 35 minutes for Pirates the first week of Feb.

      Also, fyi, FotLK is closed until summer, so no recent data on that
      Thanks, Cassie!

      I would think Philharmagic would not require a FP at certain times of the day. Do FPs for that come with access to an special seating section? (I hope not, and I like how Universal Hollywood only has special sections for some show times at some shows.)

      Are the Country Bear Jamboree, the Hall of Presidents, and the Carousel of Progress even on a FP tier?

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      • #4
        Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

        Pirates normally has a line even despite its high capacity.

        I went with Energy and Lion King, because they have large capacity when the restart the cycle. Most of the wait is for the show to open.

        Also Space Ship Earth, because later in the day it's pretty quick to load compared to the morning when FW is the only part of the park open. The Lands Boat Ride is pretty similar.

        I may of voted for Country Bears too, that isn't very popular.
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        • #5
          Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

          Originally posted by swampymarsh View Post
          Pirates normally has a line even despite its high capacity.

          I went with Energy and Lion King, because they have large capacity when the restart the cycle. Most of the wait is for the show to open.

          Also Space Ship Earth, because later in the day it's pretty quick to load compared to the morning when FW is the only part of the park open. The Lands Boat Ride is pretty similar.

          I may of voted for Country Bears too, that isn't very popular.
          Thanks, Swampy! I've liked waiting in the Pirates line at WDW because it's well themed and different than the Anaheim attraction. I hope it still has the dank smell, even if it contains bacteria!

          The Peoplemover has received the most votes from the (only) seven voters so far. Glad to hear it since it's one of the reasons I want to visit WDW :ap:, despite that we live close to Disneyland where Tomorrowland is our weak area.

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          • #6
            Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

            Living with the Land NEVER requires a FP.. It needed it so little that Chip and Co had a contest of the first person to show a video of them using a FP+ reservation for it..
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            • #7
              Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

              I also doubt Philharmagic would need a FP. No reserved seating and it's usually just waiting until the pervious show lets out, but I'm not sure how long it gets during busy times
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              • #8
                Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

                if i had to pick one, ellens energy adventure. its got huge capacity (the largest of any ride in the park i believe) and hasn't been updated in a while so thats pretty obvious regarding rides. I would say a true show but its convenient to not have to lineup and wait for it to start and secure your seat sometimes.

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                • #9
                  3 Questions:

                  So what are the longest waits for the Peoplemover these days? Will this have a FP option?

                  Where is there a link to the three tiers in each park?

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                  • #10
                    Re: 3 Questions:

                    Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post
                    So what are the longest waits for the Peoplemover these days? Will this have a FP option?

                    Where is there a link to the three tiers in each park?
                    people mover would be a waste of a FP. MK gives you the chance to pick three of any attractions in the park with no restrictions so spend them wisely. any of Pirates, the three mountains, peter pan, seven dwarfs when available, buzz lightyear, and jungle cruise are the only attractions I would be spending a pass on. pick your favourites between those 8.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 3 Questions:

                      Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                      people mover would be a waste of a FP. MK gives you the chance to pick three of any attractions in the park with no restrictions so spend them wisely. any of Pirates, the three mountains, peter pan, seven dwarfs when available, buzz lightyear, and jungle cruise are the only attractions I would be spending a pass on. pick your favourites between those 8.
                      Isn't Pirates a fast moving line with (at WDW) interesting stuff to see?

                      Again, does anyone know of a link to a list of which WDW attractions are on each tier? Of course, WDW is still working this out, which is one reason we're avoiding WDW in 2014.

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                      • #12
                        Re: 3 Questions:

                        Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post
                        Isn't Pirates a fast moving line with (at WDW) interesting stuff to see?

                        Again, does anyone know of a link to a list of which WDW attractions are on each tier? Of course, WDW is still working this out, which is one reason we're avoiding WDW in 2014.

                        "Please pardon our pixie dust!" More like, "Please excuse Dumbo's droppings."
                        for the most part yes pirates line is relatively fast moving. however if there is one breakdown, which has been known to occur, the line can backup tremendously fast considering its popularity. a fastpass could be well worth it at the end of the day. regarding the queue, a lot of disney attractions have great queues you will miss if you choose to fast pass, you will just have to decide if you want to see the queue so badly you are waiting an additional hour-30 mins in line. regarding tiers I am not sure what exactly you're talking about. I just booked my FP+ for my may1st trip and epcot and DHS are the only parks that restrict you to certain fast pass opportunities. at MK and DAK you pick any three attractions you want to fastpass, the times you want to do them and thats it youre all set. in epcot and DHS however they restrict things a little more so that it gives more people an opportunity to get a pass for a popular ride. for example at DHS you pick one attraction from category a (beauty and the beast live, fantasmic seating, rockin rollercoaster, and toy story midway mania) and two of any other attractions in the park. the same goes for epcot where you pick one of characterspot priority, illuminations viewing, malestrom, testtrack, or soarin, and then two of any other attraction in the park. this system has so far been rather easy and completely painless. it seems like everything is worked out but i will update this after i go in a little over a month.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                          . . . regarding tiers I am not sure what exactly you're talking about. I just booked my FP+ for my may1st trip and epcot and DHS are the only parks that restrict you to certain fast pass opportunities. at MK and DAK you pick any three attractions you want to fastpass, the times you want to do them and thats it youre all set. in epcot and DHS however they restrict things a little more so that it gives more people an opportunity to get a pass for a popular ride. for example at DHS you pick one attraction from category a (beauty and the beast live, fantasmic seating, rockin rollercoaster, and toy story midway mania) and two of any other attractions in the park. the same goes for epcot where you pick one of characterspot priority, illuminations viewing, malestrom, testtrack, or soarin, and then two of any other attraction in the park. this system has so far been rather easy and completely painless. it seems like everything is worked out but i will update this after i go in a little over a month.
                          It sounds like you're an expert at this point, and I look forward to your update, GoofyDonald! I hope there are no tiers added to the MK & DAK, though I expect changes in the coming months and years.

                          Do you think Illuminations viewing would be worthwhile as a FP pick?


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                          The rest of this post is an attempt to fight my insomnia :sleep:, and should not be read by anyone who values their limited time!

                          Confession: as much as I love the current Disneyland FP system (seriously), I love planning Disney trips :smart: so much that I'm disturbingly thrilled by the complexity of this new WDW system. My Minime and I enjoy beating the crowds and avoiding waits in lines (though we'd never be dishonest to accomplish this), and I'm trying to look at shortening our wait times as a fun challenge, whatever system is in place. :yea:

                          If MyMagic+ doesn't seem too complicated :rules: and if it rarely breaks down :rant:, Disney World guests might ultimately like it, whether or not the billion or so (now a "sunk cost" :greedy was the best way to have spent that money.

                          Despite my beloved Wisconsin Badgers making it to the NCAA's Sweet 16 this year, this complicated contest between U. Orlando and WDW is even more interesting to me. Increasing attendance will be one way to keep score, though this might not be fair. After all, how many more guests can fit into the MK with its current capacity? Its 17 million a year is already a theme park world record.
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                          • #14
                            Re: 3 Questions:

                            Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                            people mover would be a waste of a FP. MK gives you the chance to pick three of any attractions in the park with no restrictions so spend them wisely. any of Pirates, the three mountains, peter pan, seven dwarfs when available, buzz lightyear, and jungle cruise are the only attractions I would be spending a pass on. pick your favourites between those 8.
                            Under the Sea is a good one for a FP too.. that line is insaine sometimes. Buzz is a pretty quick moving line as well for the most part as it is a constant moving ride.
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                            • #15
                              Re: 3 Questions:

                              Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
                              Under the Sea is a good one for a FP too.. that line is insaine sometimes. Buzz is a pretty quick moving line as well for the most part as it is a constant moving ride.
                              I hesitate to fastpass an omnimover attraction, especially a new one that has a beautiful interactive queue to explore. also while it does seem like buzz moves quickly at times, it is prone to stoppages for some reason and do to its proximity to space mountain and the lack of quality attractions around it the line can get crazy busy in a seconds notice.

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                              • #16
                                Re: 3 Questions:

                                Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                                for the most part yes pirates line is relatively fast moving. however if there is one breakdown, which has been known to occur, the line can backup tremendously fast considering its popularity. a fastpass could be well worth it at the end of the day. regarding the queue, a lot of disney attractions have great queues you will miss if you choose to fast pass, you will just have to decide if you want to see the queue so badly you are waiting an additional hour-30 mins in line. regarding tiers I am not sure what exactly you're talking about. I just booked my FP+ for my may1st trip and epcot and DHS are the only parks that restrict you to certain fast pass opportunities. at MK and DAK you pick any three attractions you want to fastpass, the times you want to do them and thats it youre all set. in epcot and DHS however they restrict things a little more so that it gives more people an opportunity to get a pass for a popular ride. for example at DHS you pick one attraction from category a (beauty and the beast live, fantasmic seating, rockin rollercoaster, and toy story midway mania) and two of any other attractions in the park. the same goes for epcot where you pick one of characterspot priority, illuminations viewing, malestrom, testtrack, or soarin, and then two of any other attraction in the park. this system has so far been rather easy and completely painless. it seems like everything is worked out but i will update this after i go in a little over a month.
                                Tower of Terror is in the same tier as TSM and RARC. it shocks me that Beauty and the Beast on stage is on that tier.. Even though I absolutly love that show I would never burn a FP on it.

                                I hate TSM but for those that like it that has to be your pick for that tier. Unless you like waiting for 4 hours for an overrated ride.
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                                • #17
                                  Re: 3 Questions:

                                  Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                                  I hesitate to fastpass an omnimover attraction, especially a new one that has a beautiful interactive queue to explore. also while it does seem like buzz moves quickly at times, it is prone to stoppages for some reason and do to its proximity to space mountain and the lack of quality attractions around it the line can get crazy busy in a seconds notice.
                                  I agree for the most part.. Its just that the queue for Under the Sea I swear is literally a half mile long.. even when its completely empty it feels like the walk to the ride is 20 min.. lol
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                                  • #18
                                    Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

                                    Originally posted by jcruise86 View Post
                                    It sounds like you're an expert at this point, and I look forward to your update, GoofyDonald! I hope there are no tiers added to the MK & DAK, though I expect changes in the coming months and years.

                                    Do you think Illuminations viewing would be worthwhile as a FP pick?
                                    definitely not. there are so many places to get a good view of illuminations from that it doesnt make sense to waste a FP on it. if anything a much better way to view illuminations is to book table service dining at either the new mexico restaurant, rose and crown, or tokyo dining as well as the new morrocan restaurant from what i hear but I can't confirm that as I have not yet experienced it. all of them give great views of the show if you book at the right time, either on or overlooking the water, allow you to multitask since you have to eat anyways, give you an actual seat so you don't have to stand from the right vantage point, and in effect gives you a 4th FP considering the vantage point is just as good if not better then the FP people get from many spots in the restaurant.

                                    I think the tier system would not make much sense for MK unless they increased the amount of FP's you could get per day simply because the park has so many major attractions that for many people breaking them up into two groups would do little regarding crowd control. the same is true with animal kingdom for the opposite reason and people would be very upset if they had to choose between fastpassing one of the two main attractions.once avatarland opens though i think this will change.

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                                    • #19
                                      Re: For which excellent rides&shows R FPs LEAST necessary?

                                      Originally posted by goofy donald View Post
                                      definitely not. there are so many places to get a good view of illuminations from that it doesnt make sense to waste a FP on it. if anything a much better way to view illuminations is to book table service dining at either the new mexico restaurant, rose and crown, or tokyo dining as well as the new morrocan restaurant from what i hear but I can't confirm that as I have not yet experienced it. all of them give great views of the show if you book at the right time, either on or overlooking the water, allow you to multitask since you have to eat anyways, give you an actual seat so you don't have to stand from the right vantage point, and in effect gives you a 4th FP considering the vantage point is just as good if not better then the FP people get from many spots in the restaurant.

                                      I think the tier system would not make much sense for MK unless they increased the amount of FP's you could get per day simply because the park has so many major attractions that for many people breaking them up into two groups would do little regarding crowd control. the same is true with animal kingdom for the opposite reason and people would be very upset if they had to choose between fastpassing one of the two main attractions.once avatarland opens though i think this will change.
                                      Thanks for the info! I expect that Micechat's WDW forum section will become more visited over the next two years as Micechatters make the most out of whatever changing FP options WDW throws at us.

                                      I also liked this eloquent sentence of yours in another post with its verbing of FP: "I hesitate to fastpass an omnimover attraction, especially a new one that has a beautiful interactive queue to explore."

                                      Attractions I'm eager to FP:
                                      The Kilimanjaro Safari, Everest, and--if they have a special seating section, and I hope they don't--The Festival of the Lion King.

                                      Toy Story Midway Mania, just because we can't FP it at Disneyland and it's always fun.

                                      The Haunted Mansion because it's my all-time favorite. But we also might visit it first thing in the day without a FP because I liked the statues displayed for those in line.

                                      Big Thunder at night,
                                      and if we visit the MK on three days, possibly in the day too. How has this attraction been kept up? Disneyland seemed to let it decline for years before its recent re-opening.

                                      And we might FP the Jungle Cruise and the other three mountains in the MK.

                                      Is that Beauty and the MK's new Beauty (& the Beast?) meet & greet show actually cool, even for a family not into princesses?
                                      Last edited by jcruise86; 03-25-2014, 10:43 AM.

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                                      • #20
                                        Re: 3 Questions:

                                        Originally posted by DisneyNerdTom View Post
                                        Tower of Terror is in the same tier as TSM and RARC. it shocks me that Beauty and the Beast on stage is on that tier.. Even though I absolutly love that show I would never burn a FP on it.

                                        I hate TSM but for those that like it that has to be your pick for that tier. Unless you like waiting for 4 hours for an overrated ride.
                                        I just made my FP+ selections the other day. tower of terror and star tours are in the second group while midway mania, aerosmith coaster, beauty and the beast live and fantasmic seating are in group 1

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