More Frozen attractions are coming to the parks

[Imagineer45]

Re: More Frozen attractions are coming to the parks

Outside of trying to put a Danish fairy tale into the Norwegian Pavilion, actually turning the attraction into a Fantasyland Dark Ride based on an animated feature is just WRONG. If they think Frozen is a success there, they'll eventually add other FL dark rides, totally destroying the park's intent.

I agree, Fantasyland dark rides belong in Fantasyland.

[Darth Goofy]

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We will probably most likely see a Frozen "Meet and greet attraction" that seems to be the new trend in imagineering at Disney...

[goofy donald]

Re: More Frozen attractions are coming to the parks

We will probably most likely see a Frozen "Meet and greet attraction" that seems to be the new trend in imagineering at Disney...

we already have that now.

[Right Ear]

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Outside of trying to put a Danish fairy tale into the Norwegian Pavilion, actually turning the attraction into a Fantasyland Dark Ride based on an animated feature is just WRONG. If they think Frozen is a success there, they'll eventually add other FL dark rides, totally destroying the park's intent.

No offense intended but:
- They've already sort of started that with the Three Caballeros being added to the Mexico pavilion.
- A ride with hand painted murals, fairytale/mythological characters, and dated AA figures is so different from a Fantasyland attraction.
- Frozen is set in a made up Norwegian kingdom and its what they'd base the ride off of, not the fairytale itself

I agree, Fantasyland dark rides belong in Fantasyland.

What about The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (Critter Country), Monsters Inc. Mike and Sulley to the Rescue (Hollywoodland), the Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure (Paradise pier), Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin/Astro Blasters (Tomorrowland), The Great Movie Ride (Hollywood Boulevard), these are are all attractions that carry on the Fantasyland dark ride style into other lands that aren't Fantasyland. Just because a specific style of an attraction started in a land doesn't mean it has to be only used in that land (otherwise all sci-fi/space attractions would remain in tomorrowland, and so on)

[goofy donald]

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No offense intended but:
- They've already sort of started that with the Three Caballeros being added to the Mexico pavilion.
- A ride with hand painted murals, fairytale/mythological characters, and dated AA figures is so different from a Fantasyland attraction.
- Frozen is set in a made up Norwegian kingdom and its what they'd base the ride off of, not the fairytale itself

fair point with the cabelleros but the major difference is that the caballeros are used as a tool to showcase the nation of mexico. it is not a ride about them, it is a ride including them about mexico. having a ride that included the frozen characters that celebrated norway wouldn't be terrible but still not favourable, having a frozen attraction in norway would be horrendous. furthermore it was never said that frozen took place in norway, it was in a scandinavian-esque land scape but your assumption takes things way too far there. theres a place for classic dark rides in the world showcase, theres even a place for carefully placed characters, but not fantasyland dark rides.

What about The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (Critter Country), Monsters Inc. Mike and Sulley to the Rescue (Hollywoodland), the Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure (Paradise pier), Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin/Astro Blasters (Tomorrowland), The Great Movie Ride (Hollywood Boulevard), these are are all attractions that carry on the Fantasyland dark ride style into other lands that aren't Fantasyland. Just because a specific style of an attraction started in a land doesn't mean it has to be only used in that land (otherwise all sci-fi/space attractions would remain in tomorrowland, and so on)

theres a big difference between fantasyland dark rides and classic dark ride attractions. a fantasyland dark ride IMO is simply an attraction based off a disney film whereas a classic dark ride can be based off of an original concept. much of what you mentioned here are not fantasyland dark rides let alone true classic dark rides.

[Darth Goofy]

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"we already have that now."


Then it looks like the attraction already has been added to the park then...Most likely no attraction on Frozen in the foreseeable future...It would a nice edition to FantasyLand. I agree with most Mice chatters not to put this @ EPCOT. But EPCOT does need a new draw and if themed right maybe...I hope I am wrong about them not adding this..but.....if they invested in it and pulled all the stops it could be a Potter swatter.

[toonaspie]

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fair point with the cabelleros but the major difference is that the caballeros are used as a tool to showcase the nation of mexico. it is not a ride about them, it is a ride including them about mexico. having a ride that included the frozen characters that celebrated norway wouldn't be terrible but still not favourable, having a frozen attraction in norway would be horrendous. furthermore it was never said that frozen took place in norway, it was in a scandinavian-esque land scape but your assumption takes things way too far there. theres a place for classic dark rides in the world showcase, theres even a place for carefully placed characters, but not fantasyland dark rides.

I really dislike the Three Caballeros layover for the Mexican Boat Ride. Not because of the characters mind you, but because the ride is now executed to be less like an actual ride and more like watching a cartoon while in a boat.

[Imagineer45]

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What about The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (Critter Country), Monsters Inc. Mike and Sulley to the Rescue (Hollywoodland), the Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure (Paradise pier), Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin/Astro Blasters (Tomorrowland), The Great Movie Ride (Hollywood Boulevard), these are are all attractions that carry on the Fantasyland dark ride style into other lands that aren't Fantasyland. Just because a specific style of an attraction started in a land doesn't mean it has to be only used in that land (otherwise all sci-fi/space attractions would remain in tomorrowland, and so on)

I get that there are dark rides that are not in Fantasyland, but they aren't Fantasyland dark rides, except for Little Mermaid but that feels way out of place and they just needed space to put it. Fantasyland dark rides are more about princess' and magic, and they are not interactive.

[goofy donald]

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"we already have that now."


Then it looks like the attraction already has been added to the park then...Most likely no attraction on Frozen in the foreseeable future...It would a nice edition to FantasyLand. I agree with most Mice chatters not to put this @ EPCOT. But EPCOT does need a new draw and if themed right maybe...I hope I am wrong about them not adding this..but.....if they invested in it and pulled all the stops it could be a Potter swatter.

a small dark ride renovation in the world showcase is not a significant draw by any means. it would be much more effective if they just built a new country

[goofy donald]

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I really dislike the Three Caballeros layover for the Mexican Boat Ride. Not because of the characters mind you, but because the ride is now executed to be less like an actual ride and more like watching a cartoon while in a boat.

meh, there are pros and cons to the overlay, i personally enjoy it and see it as an overall improvement that contrasts the other countries offerings well but i could see how some wouldn't be fans.

[Imagineer45]

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Did they use all the 20K/Birthdayland land up or is there space left?

MK is definitely not short on space. Have you ever been on the railroad and gone through all of that forested area? That is the expansion space behind Small World and New Fantasyland. According to Google Earth, there are over 500 feet from the back of the Small World show building to the railroad tracks and over 350 feet from the back of Little Mermaid and Be our Guest to the railroad. Plus, MK is the only MK style park where no walkways are beyond the railroad tracks, and there is nothing there, so it could also go there. There is plenty of room.

[goofy donald]

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MK is definitely not short on space. Have you ever been on the railroad and gone through all of that forested area? That is the expansion space behind Small World and New Fantasyland. According to Google Earth, there are over 500 feet from the back of the Small World show building to the railroad tracks and over 350 feet from the back of Little Mermaid and Be our Guest to the railroad. Plus, MK is the only MK style park where no walkways are beyond the railroad tracks, and there is nothing there, so it could also go there. There is plenty of room.

it doesn't matter how much space there is when you can't access it.... theres no way to build pathways from the current park to this expansion pad you suggest. and even then it would be shutting off access to extremely important backstage areas that cannot be infringed upon.

[Jabroniville]

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I can definitely see Disney building Frozen attractions, and reasonably quickly- there's Finding Nemo stuff all over the place in the parks, for example- a whole Aquarium thing is themed to them (plus a "dark ride" that's really just looking at screens), plus Turtle Talk (on both coasts), an Animal Kingdom musical play, AND the re-theming of the Submarines at Disneyland. That's a LOT of stuff for a movie that's only 11 years old, and Frozen made QUITE a bit more money than Nemo did.

I don't know how old all the Nemo-themed attractions are, but they must have been built not too long after the film came out. Even considering that Nemo is more cross-demographically appealing than Frozen (I'm a guy and a HUGE Frozen fan, but I can tell it targeted girls quite a bit more than boys, and had nowhere near the cutesy stuff that Nemo did- nor was it as brutally-obvious in terms of shoving merch at children- Nemo is pretty much a textbook case of Merchandising), it seems like a no-brainer than Disney would capitalize on their biggest hit since The Lion King with a huge amount of stuff.

HOWEVER, it's worth pointing out that Tangled was ALSO a huge hit, and has relatively-little effect on the parks (I think there's a play, Meet & Greets, and a themed set of bathrooms with a tower behind them). Frozen just does the Meet & Greets so far, but even The Lion King doesn't have THAT big of an effect on the parks (there's a lot of stuff in AK, but no rides or major attractions, even- just some themed stuff around).

[JoseDL]

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Work on Maelstrom is going to begin on october.

[Imagineer45]

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Work on Maelstrom is going to begin on october.

A doubt this, as the attractions in pavilions tend to be directly related to the country. Second, Disney would be EXTREMELY stupid to do this. It doesn't fit in. Do the attraction at MK, or even DHS.

[Timon'sGirl]

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I think Maelstrom needs and update but not Frozen. I hated the movie and I guess I am the only one. I just thought it was boring and wanted to know how Elsa got the powers in the first place-like was it inherited or was she cursed?-but that's just me. If they wanted to make a Frozen attraction there are other places they could place it. Maelstrom needs to be related to Norway and just needs an update.

[danlb_2000]

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A doubt this, as the attractions in pavilions tend to be directly related to the country. Second, Disney would be EXTREMELY stupid to do this. It doesn't fit in. Do the attraction at MK, or even DHS.

I personally don't like this idea, but it would not surprise me if it happened. They are seeing dollar signs from the success of this movie and are looking for ways to quickly capitalize on it. Converting Maelstrom would be quicker and cheaper then building something from scratch and they probably figure the average guest isn't going to care the Frozen was not technically set in Norway.