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  • [Question] Marvel.................

    Will Disney get complete control of Marvel, in the future? If so, when, and how does that work?

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    No.

    Marvel Agreement between MCA Inc. and Marvel Entertainment Group

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      No. Universal has total control of use of characters in any theme park in Japan or east of the Mississippi River in the US.

      The only way Disney gets them is if they cough up a few million dollars and offer to buy them outright. It would have to be a lot of money because Universal knows what they have and they know Disney wants it. That doubles the price right there.

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        I thought the agreement was for 50 years. Is that true?
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          Originally posted by spacejockey View Post
          I thought the agreement was for 50 years. Is that true?
          No.

          Marvel Agreement between MCA Inc. and Marvel Entertainment Group

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            Originally posted by spacejockey View Post
            I thought the agreement was for 50 years. Is that true?
            Right, no, like lazyboy970 said. The link he keeps posting is boring legal mumbo jumbo, but if you can make sense of it, it is quite interesting.

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              So WDW can never have Marvel?
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by spacejockey View Post
                So WDW can never have Marvel?
                Not unless Disney pays, a lot. The contract isn't very long and is rather straightforward.

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                  Why was the deal for only east of the Mississippi? Universal's original park is in California, you'd think they would want to be able to put Marvel there as well.

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                    Originally posted by Disney Adventure View Post
                    Why was the deal for only east of the Mississippi? Universal's original park is in California, you'd think they would want to be able to put Marvel there as well.
                    This is all explained in the contract... Universal had global rights for a short term but did not do what was necessary to secure those rights.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Disney Adventure View Post
                      Why was the deal for only east of the Mississippi? Universal's original park is in California, you'd think they would want to be able to put Marvel there as well.
                      Quite frankly, because Universal owned the theme park IP long before Disney had the inclination to scoop up the rights. They made sure to include them in the IoA expansion, and therfore captured the rights to theme park exclusivity. Disney will really have to offer a lot of dough for characters like X-Men, Iron Man, Thor, or Hulk in the parks. For now, they will try to make obscure titles like Big Hero 6 relevent and cash in, as Universal has no rights to any character not currently used at IoA.

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                        I'm still confused. So Disney can use Marvel characters West of the Mississippi in parks? But, not the ones in Universal Orlando?
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by spacejockey View Post
                          I'm still confused. So Disney can use Marvel characters West of the Mississippi in parks? But, not the ones in Universal Orlando?
                          The Marvel characters that are in Universal's Island's of Adventure park (which is in Orlando), cannot be used in Walt Disney World, but CAN be use in the Disneyland Resort.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Mondo Mouse View Post
                            The Marvel characters that are in Universal's Island's of Adventure park (which is in Orlando), cannot be used in Walt Disney World, but CAN be use in the Disneyland Resort.
                            Universal also has exclusive rights to the characters in the same "family" as the ones the are currently using. So even though they don't have an Iron Man attraction, Disney can't use that character because he is part of the Avengers. Uni was smart in their choice of attractions since the covered The Avengers, Spiderman, X-Men and Fantastic Four which ties up pretty much every major Marvel character.

                            For those that aren't familiar with this deal, it was made back in 1994 when Marvel was not in particularly good financial shape, and this will still several years before the new batch of Marvel films got kicked off with Spiderman. Due to this the contract is very favorable for Uni. The licensing fee can only be increased with the rate of inflation, but the value of Marvel has likely increased significantly beyond that rate leaving Uni with a licensing deal that is a bargain.

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                            • #15
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                              To me the whole Marvel situation is interesting, and confusing. Marvel Entertainment is now owned by the Walt Disney Company, but Disney (as this thread discusses) only has access to Marvel characters in specific theme parks. As far a films go, Disney owns Marvel Studios, but yet because of previous contract deals Spiderman films are made by Sony, and the X-men films are made by Fox. So in really Disney just bought big slices of the Marve, owning the majority of the pie. Having a major comic book company divided like this (which is even more complicated than the DC Comics situation) is kinda weird. As far as the films go, if Marvel had it's own studios company, why did it contact out some of its biggest franchises like Spiderman and X-men to other studios? Was it because they didn't have the means to make huge films, and thought it lucrative to sell those properties to studios that could?

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