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  • Pop Century Phase II?

    What's going on with the second half of Pop Century? Has any progress been made?

  • #2
    What I have heard is that it is on Hold for a few more years. (Everything is there for parking and the foundations for every building. the Lobie & 2 builds have been built and just waiting for WDW to continue the rest of construction. Untill then they will be sitting their unused.

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    • #3
      This question has been asked on another MB at various times and the basic answer is that 9/11 dreastically changed the scheduling of this project. The "Classic Years" (50's - 90's) was pretty much done when 9/11 hit, but the "Legendary Years" (00's - 40's) was in the beginning stages of that phase. The post 9/11 effects on the travel industry halted the continuance of the "Legendary Years" construction until pre-9/11 numbers returned with some projectable consistancy. Those numbers are supposedly starting to come back to where the Disney "Bean Counters" are comfortable, but as of yet, no time table has been set for finishing the "other half" of Pop Century. I'd be surprised, though, if they didn't start up again within a year or so, based on the way the travel market has bounced back.

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      • #4
        please please please please NO PHASE II!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BurningStroller
          please please please please NO PHASE II!!
          Why? I've heard rumors about Pop-Century Phase II for a while, but I didn't think there was
          anything that was so objectionable. Or am I missing something?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BurningStroller
            please please please please NO PHASE II!!
            so what would they do with all those foundations and the lobby and those 2 buildings already built???

            remove them... just build the second resort.. then no more resorts for WDW...

            at least untill they find a bad time for the 5th park.... :lol: :devil:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BurningStroller
              please please please please NO PHASE II!!
              Then they would have to call it Pop HALf-Century! I don't think that would fly too well.
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              • #8
                Ah, I'm asking cause I'm really looking forward to Phase II.

                The 1900's should be extra cheap if you go for a room without electricity or running water!

                And my friend and I were hoping for an Al Capone suite in the 40's.

                I wonder what Disney has figured out as the theme/bedspreads/wallpapers/artwork for these rooms?

                And why doesn't Disney install a massive bowling alley in the 50's?

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                • #9
                  you're kidding right? That MOTEL is awful! It basically solidifies every sterotype that people have for Disney (excluding us)...big, overbearing, gaudy. They couldnt make a 'tasteful' inexpensive hotel? I'd rather see 10 more motels 6's on 192 than another addition to that disaster.

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                  • #10
                    Actually, Pop is our favorite resort. I will be there again next week. We find Pop to be everything that IS Disney. Larger than Life, Full of Fun, Magic at every corner, and colors, colors, colors. If you would rather Motel 6's then, by all means, stay at one. It is out of the way, so you can even easily avoid seeing it.

                    And, just to be clear, in the last two years, we have stayed at
                    All Stars Music
                    All Stars Movies
                    Coronado Springs
                    Caribean Beach
                    Animal Kingdom Lodge
                    Wilderness Lodge
                    Beach Club
                    Polynesian
                    Old Key West

                    In addition, I have stayed at Contemporary, Grand Floridian, Hilton at Downtown Disney, Treehouses (miss them), Port Orleans and Fort Wilderness. So I think I have a good idea of what is Disney

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                    • #11
                      Pop centry is the better of the 2 value resorts....(or is it 3???)

                      It was improved for everyone and has a great theme to work on.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iAmJacksDLand
                        What's going on with the second half of Pop Century? Has any progress been made?
                        If its true that resort occupany averages around 70%, then it wouldn't make sense to expand it. And if the econos are full, building more could possibly cannibalize business from the moderates.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by usofa
                          Actually, Pop is our favorite resort. I will be there again next week. We find Pop to be everything that IS Disney. Larger than Life, Full of Fun, Magic at every corner, and colors, colors, colors. If you would rather Motel 6's then, by all means, stay at one. It is out of the way, so you can even easily avoid seeing it.

                          And, just to be clear, in the last two years, we have stayed at
                          All Stars Music
                          All Stars Movies
                          Coronado Springs
                          Caribean Beach
                          Animal Kingdom Lodge
                          Wilderness Lodge
                          Beach Club
                          Polynesian
                          Old Key West

                          In addition, I have stayed at Contemporary, Grand Floridian, Hilton at Downtown Disney, Treehouses (miss them), Port Orleans and Fort Wilderness. So I think I have a good idea of what is Disney
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                          WDW:
                          July 1987 - offsite, 1-day visit to the MK; July-August 2000 - honeymoon - Port Orleans (now POFQ); May 2003 - Caribbean Beach Resort; Dec 2003 - Coronado Springs; April 2004 - Pop Century (PC) & POFQ; Sept 2004 - Animal Kingdom Lodge; May 2005 - Port Orleans Riverside; Sept 2005 - PC; Oct 2006 - POFQ; Apr 2007 - PC; July 2007 - Boardwalk Villas (WOO HOO! I was at WDW in the MK on the 20th anniversary of my first visit!); August - Sept 2007 - Old Key West; Sept 2007 - Saratoga Springs; Oct 2007 - BWV; Mar-Apr 2008 - SS

                          DLR:
                          Dec 2001 - Grand Californian; Jan 2005 - GC; July 2005 - HoJo Anaheim & GC; Dec 2008 - Best Western Park Place Inn



                          p.s. Wanna buy a :monkey:?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BurningStroller
                            you're kidding right? That MOTEL is awful! It basically solidifies every sterotype that people have for Disney (excluding us)...big, overbearing, gaudy. They couldnt make a 'tasteful' inexpensive hotel? I'd rather see 10 more motels 6's on 192 than another addition to that disaster.
                            :confused: ....Couldn't disagree more! The place is fun from front to back. If it wasn't for the value resorts, trips to WDW would be a lot less likely.

                            Pop for me ....

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                            • #15
                              Tried Pop Century last June and went with the whole family. Everybody loved it. Won't say its the best (I've stayed everywhere but AKL and Dixie Landings and the yacht and beah club), but for a value resort, it was fun/clean and comfy.

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                              • #16
                                I've stayed at PC three times since it opened. I like it for what it is ... a glorified Disney version of a basic motel. I like some of the touches, details, music etc ... but generally wish the place had never been built because it is gaudy and tacky and has spread Disney's already declining maintaince team even thinner.

                                I would truely hope that Phase II is canceled outright. The one building of rooms that was completed could be demolished or even used for CPers housing. The other lobby and food court could likely be used for some other purpose.

                                But if there's one thing WDW doesn't need right now is added resort inventory. They are discounting almost constantly now as is.

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                                • #17
                                  actually, they are only discounting for annual passholders and FLA residents at this time. POP is full this weekend. The only availablility for values is All Star Sports. So, they need inventory for Value resorts. Also, Moderates CS and PO-FQ are also full

                                  have to say, my BF has been here 5 times in last 2.5 years and has never seen the parks this full. Tourism is back big time at the house of mouse.I want the legendary years now!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by usofa
                                    actually, they are only discounting for annual passholders and FLA residents at this time. POP is full this weekend. The only availablility for values is All Star Sports. So, they need inventory for Value resorts. Also, Moderates CS and PO-FQ are also full

                                    have to say, my BF has been here 5 times in last 2.5 years and has never seen the parks this full. Tourism is back big time at the house of mouse.I want the legendary years now!
                                    That's right now as far as room only discounts go. But they have had discounts steadily for the past 4-5 years now, and many times those discounts applied to everyone. There were no such thing as generic discount codes until the past few years. You can now book a room at last minute when you used to have to book months and, for some periods, a year or more in advance.

                                    The fact they are filling resorts this week or this month makes no difference. I visit WDW almost every other month and have for years. I remember what the place was like in 2001-003 when some resorts were like ghosttowns and some were shut down for months for 'renovations' which NEVER happened in the past.

                                    WDW simply has way too many rooms with our country mired in a war, a lousy economy and gas prices at an all-time high.

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                                    • #19
                                      I hope they finish phase II. Now that occupancies are nearing the pre 9/11 level and discounting is becoming less and less frequent I think it will be a go in the near future.

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                                      • #20
                                        I am sorry, but your argument proves the point I was making. The fact that they do not discount to the general public, that they are now filling the resorts, and that it is no longer like it was in 2001-2003 shows that the resort is rebounding. If Pop Century is full on an April weekend that is not spring break, it shows that there is a demand for more value resorts. Build the legendary years.

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