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    OK, as promised here's what I have heard regarding Epcot's future (much of this has been widely speculated on):

    Ops hopes to have Nemo in soft-opening mode PRIOR to CM day on 10/12 or AP previews that begin the next day.

    The new Canada Circlevision film will make its debut in January.

    Shortly thereafter, El Rio de Tiempo will be given a Three Caballeros overlay. The budget is modest, so I wouldn't expect to be wowed.

    WDI and Siemens are still finalizing plans to update SSE (both ride and postshow) and it should all be completed in time for the non-existant 25th anniversary.

    Despite what you have heard, Imagination WILL be getting reworked yet again, with both the ride getting version 4.0 and a new movie replacing Honey, I've Bored the Audience for Years Now. The whole Imagination Institute, along with Eric Idle, will become history. This should be done by late 2007 depending on financing.

    France may or may not be getting a new film as well depending upon who you talk to.

    The new version of Illuminations will debut in time for the 25th anniversary, but no one can say (or seems to know) if it'll even acknowledge that.

    There still is NO financing for the rumored parade for Epcot, which will be held during the day if it happens.

    And, finally, there are absolutely no plans for WoL right now except to use it much like Millennium Village/World Showplace. There are plenty of concepts and ideas, but 'nothing is close to being decided' according to a source.

    And not that this should surprise anyone, but while Jay Rasulo DID indeed know this was WDW's 35th anniversary but chose to completely ignore it in favor of the Year of a Million Free Pin Lanyards and Bottle of Powerade, it seems he was quite ignorant on other matters.

    It was only recently that he supposedly caught on that Epcot turns 25 next October. And there are many in the company, even Al Weiss, who believe there should be some sort of celebration for it, even if it takes away from the globalized (but largely WDW) dreams-based marketing scheme/event.

    How this all will play out remains to be seen ...

    Also, here are two strictly rumors so take them for what they are worth ...

    There is a strong belief at WDI that the American Adventure needs an updating, especially with the World Trade Center sitting prominently in the final scene. So much has happened in the world since the last update over a decade ago. But there are many who feel the past decade hasn't been all that great to our America (and, oh God, do I agree) and feel it would be very tough to add in the terrorist attacks, another war (or is it two?), another space shuttle diaster etc ... and still be uplifting.

    Also, have heard that World Showcase may be getting another fine dining location.

    This stuff is strictly rumor and should be treated as such.

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    Originally posted by WDW1974 View Post
    The new Canada Circlevision film will make its debut in January.
    Thank God - it was pretty bad going there in May and seeing that old 1970's film. so much up here has changed it was about time. I hope it's a good one - one to make us proud.

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      Despite what you have heard, Imagination WILL be getting reworked yet again, with both the ride getting version 4.0 and a new movie replacing Honey, I've Bored the Audience for Years Now. The whole Imagination Institute, along with Eric Idle, will become history. This should be done by late 2007 depending on financing.
      Well it's about time! Hopefully they will bring Dreamfinder back and people will actually want to go on it.

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        I can take most everything but the American Adventure thingy. This show needs to close for good. Too long, too boring and simply depressing. I much rather they took the entire show and building down and replace it with DCA's raft ride. That would be more in tune with audiences at Epcot now. (it's for you to decided if I meant this as a joke or was deadly serious)

        Also... do not touch Impressions de France. Stunning film and soundtrack that I still enjoy today as much as I did the first time I saw in Sept 1982 during preview days.

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          You can expect a little something for Epcot's 25th... It's not much, but there is something in the works.

          And as far as the American Adventure getting updated... don't hold your breath. Everything else is pretty much true... including the new dining location.

          Impressions WILL be updated... the film is too dated, and it is next on the list to be updated for the countries. (After Canada and Norway)

          And I'll add that the new Soarin' film was being filmed in Walt Disney Studios Paris last month. Expect a new Soarin' film in the near future.

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            Originally posted by captsmith84 View Post
            You can expect a little something for Epcot's 25th... It's not much, but there is something in the works.
            Yes, and it will cost $12.95 at the Pin Station.

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              I am most excited about the new movie in Imagination and Three Caballeros! Honey I shrunk the Audience was old the second time I saw it, and Mexico needs something to make it more interesting. As much as I love its cheesiness, A modest budget in this case might make a nice balance between old and new.
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                Re: Epcot News and Rumors

                Despite what you have heard, Imagination WILL be getting reworked yet again, with both the ride getting version 4.0 and a new movie replacing Honey, I've Bored the Audience for Years Now. The whole Imagination Institute, along with Eric Idle, will become history. This should be done by late 2007 depending on financing.
                As much as I adore Eric Idle, I hated, hated, HATED Dr Nigel Channing and the whole Imagination Institute. Honey, I've Put the Audience into a Coma was stupid the first (and only) time I ever saw it. Even Captain EO was 10 times more entertaining (and I loved Fuzzbucket).

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                  Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                  Also... do not touch Impressions de France. Stunning film and soundtrack that I still enjoy today as much as I did the first time I saw in Sept 1982 during preview days.
                  I totally agree. And I don't think the film looks outdated at all! What's could be outdate in that one? A truly remarkable film that totally succeeds in given an impression of France.

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                    Let's see... the night skyline is totally different in Paris now, just the quality of the film shows its age, and the fact that the cars are more than twenty years old is a dead giveaway. The soundtrack is wonderful though.

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                      Originally posted by WDW1974 View Post
                      There still is NO financing for the rumored parade for Epcot, which will be held during the day if it happens.
                      I really hope they reconsider this. I know everyone is not a parade lover, but I really feel that Epcot lacks something because it doesn't have a parade. I would really like to see something work for this park, of course, I'm a parades person, so thats my line of thinking.

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                        Re: Epcot News and Rumors

                        Originally posted by WDW1974 View Post
                        OK, as promised here's what I have heard regarding Epcot's future (much of this has been widely speculated on):

                        Ops hopes to have Nemo in soft-opening mode PRIOR to CM day on 10/12 or AP previews that begin the next day.

                        The new Canada Circlevision film will make its debut in January.
                        France may or may not be getting a new film as well depending upon who you talk to.
                        I really like Circlevision. I hope this is true because this is the only place that Circlevision really lives for me - plus I really like it now that I'm tall enough to see it and that it is about other countries that I might not visit. It makes me want to see it and actually informs me. The fact that watching Circlevision in China can teach me enough to know where my Journalism TA is from when she mentions the city before the outsider's reference helps. Disney can entertain and educate still - you just have to be desperate for that knowledge.

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                          With all the films getting updated, any chance they may spring for digital projection for some of these venues?

                          Considering how many times those movies are shown in a day it could be a significant savings versus having to replace worn out film on a regular basis.
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                            Originally posted by Slartibardfast View Post
                            With all the films getting updated, any chance they may spring for digital projection for some of these venues?

                            Considering how many times those movies are shown in a day it could be a significant savings versus having to replace worn out film on a regular basis.
                            That takes money, but who knows? Miracles could happen.

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                              Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                              That takes money
                              Not all that much...

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                                Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                                That takes money, but who knows? Miracles could happen.
                                Considering an upgrade of these films is a miracle in itself, you never know.

                                Oh! In my Intro. to Scandinavia class this past Tuesday we watched two "films" on Norway. One was a short tourism video (about 5 minutes in length) that would've provided for an interesting upgrade at the Norway pavillion. Or... they could put in the John Cleese film that we saw in there. I'm sure no one would mind being "forced" to watch that! It's even written my Norwegians.

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                                  Originally posted by WDW1974 View Post
                                  The new Canada Circlevision film will make its debut in January.

                                  Shortly thereafter, El Rio de Tiempo will be given a Three Caballeros overlay. The budget is modest, so I wouldn't expect to be wowed.
                                  Shortly? How shortly? Like, if I go in late January or early Feb, will it be closed? I'm not going to delay a visit for a Caballeros overlay, but if the family goes I want them to experience the cheese.

                                  I wish they had more solid plans for what's closing early in the new year.

                                  WDI and Siemens are still finalizing plans to update SSE (both ride and postshow) and it should all be completed in time for the non-existant 25th anniversary.
                                  Crossing my fingers for the best here.

                                  It was only recently that he supposedly caught on that Epcot turns 25 next October. And there are many in the company, even Al Weiss, who believe there should be some sort of celebration for it, even if it takes away from the globalized (but largely WDW) dreams-based marketing scheme/event.
                                  How about they pencil in a wand demolition on the park's birthday? Then everyone who really cares about the place can celebrate and Rasulo can be sure that Joe Omaha doesn't know anything happened.

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                                    --Rio Ride with 3 Cabs...anything to make this ride better, I would support. Personally, I think it's a good idea to, I don't know, TOUCH the ride as if thinking about it. It seems to, I guess, just left there.

                                    --Canada needs a new movie, so yippee there. My Canadian colleagues thought it was a total comedy. They were like, "eh, look at the that, remember those in the 80's?" I agreed with them when we went as a group.

                                    --I'm going to agree with others, strangely, the French pavilion's film isn't as jaded as the other two rides. Very weird how it's held up and I'm going to agree--perhaps leave this one alone or add Hunchback in there! C'est tres bon!

                                    --I don't mind changes to Imagination, but please, ever so, KEEP FIGMENT. He's my bud and a personal mascot on many occasions.

                                    --Something needs to done with SE, so like Mexico's ride, anything else done will be an improvement, even if it's spray paint and screen doors. The last time I was on there, I exited to a bank of empty booths. It was sad and very bad show.

                                    Thanks for this update. I'm looking forward to visiting in February. Maybe a meet-up is in order!

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                                      I think if they learned anything about Imagination, is that Figment cannot leave.

                                      As for France, I agree it's held its own. I really think this is one of the lesser things that needs plussing and upgrading, but maybe they figure if they're already doing the others, why not this one too?
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                                        Originally posted by TDLFAN View Post
                                        I can take most everything but the American Adventure thingy. This show needs to close for good. Too long, too boring and simply depressing. I much rather they took the entire show and building down and replace it with DCA's raft ride. That would be more in tune with audiences at Epcot now. (it's for you to decided if I meant this as a joke or was deadly serious)

                                        Also... do not touch Impressions de France. Stunning film and soundtrack that I still enjoy today as much as I did the first time I saw in Sept 1982 during preview days.
                                        .... American Adventure IS the Disney company. It showcases exactly how a theme park attraction should be.

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