Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Eliminate from WDW

Collapse

Get Away Today

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    Re: Eliminate from WDW

    Originally posted by MickeyMania View Post
    We're not stereotyping
    Yet you say and I quote "while real golf is typically a pastime of rich men"

    Here's some survey facts for you (older, but not worth looking up newer ones to prove such an obvious point):

    "According to the National Golf Foundation, the average household income of golfers last year was $68,209, compared with $51,855 for the average U.S. household in 1998, the most recent year Census data is available"

    "Additionally, for the first period in history, there are more golfers under the age of 40 than over, with 47.7 percent falling into the highly desirable 18 to 39 age group."

    so yes, while there are tons of older guys playing golf.. don't write off the 25+ MILLION golf players in the country.

    Fact is there's not many places for homeless to go in my city, but we sure have lots and lots and lots of golf courses. Big wide expanses far larger than any other game's court.
    What in the world do the # of golf courses have to do with your city's social services? You do realize most golf courses are PRIVATLY OWNED and have nothing to do with your city or county's social system.

    How popular is it?
    A former WDW marketing executive talked about his efforts to try and market the Golf Resort (Shades of Green) to golf enthusiasts and all his efforts came up dry. The conclusion was that people at WDW don't want to play golf, and/or people who want to play golf don't want to go to WDW to do it.
    Yet Disney doubled their courses.. and added yet more later. The Shades of Green was never on par to be a resort. Only after its recent refurb and new wing is it even worthy of a moderate.
    Check out my blog - Coreplex: Rambling from inside the Grid


    Am I evil? yes, I am
    Am I evil? I am man, yes, I am

    Originally posted by sleepyjeff
    Disneyland was meant to be sipped not chug-a-lugged

    Comment


    • #42
      Re: Eliminate from WDW

      Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
      Yet Disney doubled their courses.. and added yet more later. The Shades of Green was never on par to be a resort. Only after its recent refurb and new wing is it even worthy of a moderate.
      I though Shades of Green was their military family discount resort? Am I wrong about this? Was it at one time?
      Originally posted by larasound
      am I the burrito man?

      Comment


      • #43
        Re: Eliminate from WDW

        Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
        What in the world do the # of golf courses have to do with your city's social services? You do realize most golf courses are PRIVATLY OWNED and have nothing to do with your city or county's social system.
        Sorry, it's a local rant. First of all, our city does actually own some courses. Secondly, anytime a golf course developer needs some land, the city council is there with a sympathetic heart and ear. They might not be public land, but quite a few of them once were.

        My original point was that I've never seen statistics that says that golf, particularly pro-level courses WDW proudly advertises, are popular with all agre groups and incomes.

        Comment


        • #44
          Re: Eliminate from WDW

          Originally posted by evilqueenrocks View Post
          I though Shades of Green was their military family discount resort? Am I wrong about this? Was it at one time?
          It is now, and has been for 4+ years or so. Before that it was a golf-focused Disney owned Hotel. The DoD took it over, and now its available to military families at a discount. Its a great deal.. $109 a night last time we were there and you get all the on-site perks.
          Check out my blog - Coreplex: Rambling from inside the Grid


          Am I evil? yes, I am
          Am I evil? I am man, yes, I am

          Originally posted by sleepyjeff
          Disneyland was meant to be sipped not chug-a-lugged

          Comment


          • #45
            Re: Eliminate from WDW

            Originally posted by MickeyMania View Post
            My original point was that I've never seen statistics that says that golf, particularly pro-level courses WDW proudly advertises, are popular with all agre groups and incomes.
            Golf is an expensive sport.. but its also a huge sport with people willing to spend tons of money on it. Its not going to appeal to everyone, nor does it need to. That's why WDW has variety Camping in a RV isn't for everyone either
            Check out my blog - Coreplex: Rambling from inside the Grid


            Am I evil? yes, I am
            Am I evil? I am man, yes, I am

            Originally posted by sleepyjeff
            Disneyland was meant to be sipped not chug-a-lugged

            Comment


            • #46
              Re: Eliminate from WDW

              Originally posted by flynnibus View Post
              Yet you say and I quote "while real golf is typically a pastime of rich men"
              Flynn, look, my childhood buddy is into golf, right? And he's as middle-America as can be. However, he's not into paying the premium for 4.5* courses. And frankly, it's not an activity the family can do together, which was the motto of a Disney destination. Now keep in mind that I don't mind specialty adult-oriened entertainment when it's kept to a reasonable leash (ie: PI), but how much space is WDW using on golf parks?

              If it's not that much space, I'll admit I made an error.

              Did I put my mouth in foot by saying golf is for rich men? Okay, sure, but real golf is not a whole-family sport, hence why putt-putt exists in the first place.

              What in the world do the # of golf courses have to do with your city's social services? You do realize most golf courses are PRIVATLY OWNED and have nothing to do with your city or county's social system.
              You must be a golf guy, because you're really on a rampage here. I don't have a ton of sympathy for most of our city's poverty vagrants, since many of them practically do it as a career, which was the reason for the controversial no-feeding-in-parks law. HOWEVER, our city does own it's own golf course(s), and pays private operators money to maintain it. And we have plenty of private courses without needing the city to operate one for our embetterment.

              Comment


              • #47
                Re: Eliminate from WDW

                Originally posted by MickeyMania View Post
                Flynn, look, my childhood buddy is into golf, right? And he's as middle-America as can be. However, he's not into paying the premium for 4.5* courses.
                But who you know doesn't change facts. Golf can and IS a huge draw in many places. Look at places like South Carolina.. where there are plenty of destinations where Golf IS the draw.

                And frankly, it's not an activity the family can do together, which was the motto of a Disney destination. Now keep in mind that I don't mind specialty adult-oriened entertainment when it's kept to a reasonable leash (ie: PI), but how much space is WDW using on golf parks?
                Space isn't really a metric of worth. Otherwise why would Disney put such large lagoons everywhere that don't do anything?

                As for things they can do together.. don't abuse a theory quoted about a single amusement park and try to apply it to an entire resort carte blanc. Disney has plenty of activities that are single group focused. The idea is the WHOLE brings activities for the whole family.. not necessarily each individual activity.

                You must be a golf guy
                No, It just really rubs me when people make extreme mis-guided generalizations. I'm technical so I'm about precision and blanket statements irk me
                Check out my blog - Coreplex: Rambling from inside the Grid


                Am I evil? yes, I am
                Am I evil? I am man, yes, I am

                Originally posted by sleepyjeff
                Disneyland was meant to be sipped not chug-a-lugged

                Comment

                Get Away Today Footer

                Collapse
                Working...
                X