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  • TheDisneyInquisitor
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    Originally posted by misterp102778 View Post
    And why is there a hight requirment when the ride dosnet move. I mean I got more thrills on the pooh ride. And its 40inch too. Keep in mind the matterhon in disneyland only has a 37 inch requiremnt. My brain is gonna explode with fustration. :0p
    Well I believe (but could be wrong) that it is at least 37 inches because of the over-the-shoulder thing. The other 3 inches were tacked on early on as some smaller children were being scared.

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  • misterp102778
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    Stich, I am still wondering how come there are so many people in line for it. And why is there a hight requirment when the ride dosnet move. I mean I got more thrills on the pooh ride. And its 40inch too. Keep in mind the matterhon in disneyland only has a 37 inch requiremnt. My brain is gonna explode with fustration. :0p

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  • sir clinksalot
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    I don't know, I already feel the leap in time from the 40's to 2000 is pretty big.

    I'd like to see turn of the century one taken out, one added with the 80's (computers, etc) and then the current one.

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  • TheDisneyInquisitor
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    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Didn't they update CoP recently?
    The last show update was 1994 (which marked the return of Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow). The theaters itself (I believe) have been refurbished fairly recently).

    The updates were....
    1964: Introduction into Worlds Fair
    1967: Move to Disneyland (new Mother voice, Christmas 1960s updated, slight changes with Father and GE)
    1975: Move to Magic Kingdom (opposite rotation, removal of postshow, The Best Time of Your Life, new cast, finale scene upped a decade)
    1981: Finale updated another decade to 1980s
    1985: Departure of GE. GE signs covered with CoP/blueprint logo
    1994: Rethemed for New Tomorrowland (Gears/Cogs, updated family & voices, return of GBBT song, update of final scene to Christmas 2000, new intro narration, etc)
    Last edited by TheDisneyInquisitor; 11-09-2007, 09:33 AM.

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  • Coheteboy
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    Originally posted by MJMcB View Post
    I'm sure I'll catch grief for this but Jungle Cruise and Carousel of Progress should have been updated/redone years ago.
    Didn't they update CoP recently?

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  • MJMcB
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    I'm sure I'll catch grief for this but Jungle Cruise and Carousel of Progress should have been updated/redone years ago.

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  • TheDisneyInquisitor
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    Originally posted by stitchon View Post
    What? Most of You forgot the biggest dud of all! The Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor! It serves no purpose and is in the completely wrong land, not to mention the completely wrong park! They could have saved it for MGM and kept Timekeeper (One of my favorite things at WDW)
    Why should they have kept Timekeeper? Even on MILF's worst days it still brings in at least 10 times TK's wait (the only ride I can think of that probably had a worse attendance than TK is JIIWF.

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  • BigPigletFan
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    Narnia was cool two years ago before the film was released as the Narnia: Movie Preview. I honestly didn't think it was supposed to last longer than a few months but I guess they kept it open for those die-hard trilogy fans?

    And I have yet to step foot into Ellen's Energy Adventure and I intend to keep it that way.

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  • stitchon
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    What? Most of You forgot the biggest dud of all! The Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor! It serves no purpose and is in the completely wrong land, not to mention the completely wrong park! They could have saved it for MGM and kept Timekeeper (One of my favorite things at WDW)

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  • sir clinksalot
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    Well, the Carpets also have double the capacity of Dumbo because each carpet can sit 4 instead of Dumbo's 2. So that certainly makes a difference.

    Plus, there is just something about riding Dumbo.

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  • Coheteboy
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    Originally posted by Esdeebee View Post
    >>I like the Aladdin Carpets the same way I like Dumbo and to a fuller extent Astro Orbiter (the up high version, thank you). And I'm sure all who go on the carpets enjoy the ride also. But it is as you said, uneccessary.<<

    I agree, as rides go at the MK, the Carpets are sort of lame. That said, my 5 year old absolutely loved them and couldn't get enough of them. I probably went on them 5 times, more than any other ride (unfortunately) because it was his favorite, and he didn't like the thrill rides or even POTC too much. Had to do something he liked.

    And every time we went by Dumbo, the lines were LOOONG! This at a time when most of the other rides were relatively short or close to "walk on". By contrast, the lines at the Carpets were less than 5 minutes, and a few times it was just a walk on. Maybe if they put it somewhere else it draws more riders, too, and that might be a good thing because there would be no way I'd wait in Dumbo-length lines for this ride more than once...;-)

    Scott


    Says a lot about Dumbo doesn't it? That attraction has become so iconic with marketing the Disney theme parks that for a child or child at heart, it isn't the same without Dumbo the flying elephant.

    Nobody goes to disneyland (sorry, it's easier to say than magic kingdom or walt disney world) to ride the magic carpets.

    Hmmm.. should magic kingdom have two sets of dumbos and axe the carpets? Does Dumbo only carry 2 per elephant? Maybe have another one that carries 4 per elephant so people can decide which one they want to ride.

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  • SpookyBear
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    Originally posted by Jerren View Post
    You know if they brought back the "Radok Blocks" in the preshow and reverted it back to the original without Bill and Ellen I think it would be a much better attraction. I have nothing against Bill and Ellen I just feel that the whole attraction was "dumbed down" to the point where its slightly offensive.

    For those who don't remember/know what I'm talking about you can read more here: http://imagineerebirth.blogspot.com/...ul-motion.html
    I remember the radok pre-show and I thought it was amazing. I still think it would impress people now just because of the whole kinetic aspect of it. I do think that the new show is way dumbed down and is in desperate need of an overhaul. Especially with all the new energy sources that are gaining more attention due to environmental concerns.

    One attraction that I really think needs to go is Honey I Shrunk The Audience. I don't know if it's pointless, but it's definitely overstayed it's welcome.

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  • Esdeebee
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    >>I like the Aladdin Carpets the same way I like Dumbo and to a fuller extent Astro Orbiter (the up high version, thank you). And I'm sure all who go on the carpets enjoy the ride also. But it is as you said, uneccessary.<<

    I agree, as rides go at the MK, the Carpets are sort of lame. That said, my 5 year old absolutely loved them and couldn't get enough of them. I probably went on them 5 times, more than any other ride (unfortunately) because it was his favorite, and he didn't like the thrill rides or even POTC too much. Had to do something he liked.

    And every time we went by Dumbo, the lines were LOOONG! This at a time when most of the other rides were relatively short or close to "walk on". By contrast, the lines at the Carpets were less than 5 minutes, and a few times it was just a walk on. Maybe if they put it somewhere else it draws more riders, too, and that might be a good thing because there would be no way I'd wait in Dumbo-length lines for this ride more than once...;-)

    Scott

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  • Jerren
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    Originally posted by SomethingWicked451 View Post
    Sorry to see so many on UOE. I still love it. The old version was truly a travisty. they completely forgot the "tainment" part of edutainment.

    I think Stitch and Magic Carpets (and all Dumbo clones) are pretty bad.

    You know if they brought back the "Radok Blocks" in the preshow and reverted it back to the original without Bill and Ellen I think it would be a much better attraction. I have nothing against Bill and Ellen I just feel that the whole attraction was "dumbed down" to the point where its slightly offensive.

    For those who don't remember/know what I'm talking about you can read more here: http://imagineerebirth.blogspot.com/...ul-motion.html

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  • Coheteboy
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    Originally posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    There are some that are certainly uneccesary (the carpet's really could go to MGM) ... but somebody likes them.

    You bring up a point that is interesting because there is such thing as liking something even while knowing it's out of place.

    I like the Aladdin Carpets the same way I like Dumbo and to a fuller extent Astro Orbiter (the up high version, thank you). And I'm sure all who go on the carpets enjoy the ride also. But it is as you said, uneccessary.

    But somewhere they should have said "we have two types of these rides in the same park. Do we need another to clog up Adventureland? Perhaps Dumbo's capacity just doesn't reel them in so they felt they had to, but it could have easily gone into Toon Town Fair and not been out of place.

    Does Adventureland need another attraction? Definitely. An Aladdin dark ride would have been something I would have rather seen.

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  • sir clinksalot
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    ^ Shucks, I was wondering if they had done that. We would have gone back in. Oh well.

    For me, I think that every attraction serves a purpose, for somebody. Yes, even the Tiki Room. (maybe).

    I can't say that Stitch is a dud, because our Son LOVES it. And anybody who was at MNSSHP with us, and saw the smile on his face when he convinced EVERYBODY to go on because he wanted to will attest ... it really did make the attraction at least somewhat tolerable.

    There are some that are certainly uneccesary (the carpet's really could go to MGM) ... but somebody likes them.

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  • Sadako
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    In the defense of Narnia, while I was at MGM during the Invasion, I was pleased to find out that they updated it with a behind-the-scenes preview of 'Prince Caspian'.

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  • toonaspie
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    Originally posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Oooh I'll play!

    DISNEY-MGM STUDIOS
    -voyage of the little mermaid -- a retelling of the film using animation clips, live actors, and puppets. But, it's not even a good retelling. It's just a series of random scenes and songs. The human world.... is a mess. Sebastian was right.
    I'm surprised that that attraction is popular enough to have FastPass kiosks for it. While the special effects stuff is pretty entertaining, the dissapointment comes in when after Ariel is turned into a human by Ursula, the video clips fastforward through the rest of the movie. Eric and Max only have like a minute of screen time after that and I was like "wait...that was it?" Also I think in the Part of Your World scene, it would be more entertaining if Ariel was actually swimming around (just like "Just Keep Swimming" sequence in Finding Nemo the Musical). That would give the attraction some more points, but otherwise it comes real close to being a dud. I'm amazed at how many dud attractions there are at MGM.

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  • SomethingWicked451
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    Sorry to see so many on UOE. I still love it. The old version was truly a travisty. they completely forgot the "tainment" part of edutainment.

    I think Stitch and Magic Carpets (and all Dumbo clones) are pretty bad.

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  • Coheteboy
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    Oooh I'll play!

    Magic Kingdom

    -Magic Carpets is pointless. It's a rip off of Dumbo which is so much more charming. Plus it's fantasy so you can believe an elephant can fly. Aladdin carpets though... it's a visual eye-sore in a place that should look like an exotic land. Carpets is a good idea for a full-on E-Ticket and WDW definitely has the space for it.

    -Stitch's Great Escape -- Ok what's the point? Really. What does one take from this? Stitch escapes. Yes, that's what the name of it was. But guess what? he actually does escape! Of course... the key word here is "great". It wasn't. It's just a series of nonsensical events that leads to his eventual disappearance. What made it even more awkward is that the introductions were 2D hand drawn cartoons and then the attraction is animatronic. Can we please be consistent? Make puppets or animatronics for the people on the screen too! Don't do a halfarse job! Alien Encounter is miles better than this because you're going in wondering what kind of alien encounter it will be. Will be pleasant? Will it be scary? You'll have to do it to find out! In Stitch... the name of the attraction ruins the eventual payoff. Perhaps they should rename it back to Alien Encounter but featuring Stitch. It'd still be a horrible attraction but at least you won't confuse the guest by having "GREAT" in the title.


    EPCOT
    Epcot is clean. Though Ellen's Energy thing is completely outdated, it still serves a purpose in informing the guest about different types of energy. It still has value in it for that reason alone.


    DISNEY-MGM STUDIOS
    -voyage of the little mermaid -- a retelling of the film using animation clips, live actors, and puppets. But, it's not even a good retelling. It's just a series of random scenes and songs. The human world.... is a mess. Sebastian was right.


    DISNEY'S ANIMAL KINGDOM
    -Hester & Chester's Dino-Rama -- yah, let's make a very beautiful park and then turn one land into total crap. "Yah uh... we intentionally made it look like crap because it's supposed to!" If it looks like poo, smells like poo, and floats like poo... chances are it's poo.

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